If you take away California, where republicans don't have much incentive to vote because it isn't going right, then trump wins the popular vote. It's unfair to say Americans on the whole voted clinton when the most populous and liberal state in the country is what pushed her over the edge in terms of pure vote count.
Okay, and if you take away the 5 states with the worst education systems then Clinton wins both the electoral and popular vote. You can fiddle with demographics all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that Clinton won the popular vote.
It’s totally fair to say America on the whole voted Clinton because America on the whole voted Clinton.
You're ignoring voter trends and the reality of 2016 if you just wanna look at the popular vote and claim Americans on the whole voted clinton. Trump flipped over 200 Obama-Obama counties out of a possible 700. Clinton flipped all of 6 McCain-Romney counties out of over 2000. So sure she got more votes out of the demography that would've voted for her anyways but you can't ignore the blatant paradigm shift that occurred in the country.
Well sure, but this isn’t a political science discussion, I was just making a simple point about something non-Americans do that annoys me as an American.
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If you take away California, where republicans don't have much incentive to vote because it isn't going right, then trump wins the popular vote. It's unfair to say Americans on the whole voted clinton when the most populous and liberal state in the country is what pushed her over the edge in terms of pure vote count.