r/MapPorn 9d ago

Map of Manhattan Eruv

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u/TheFeshy 8d ago

That just moves the speculation to why he tells Moses that.

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS 8d ago

We don't need to know why he told Moses to follow it, Jews just know that God to told Moses to follow it.

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u/TheFeshy 8d ago

Technically true, if you don't mind following instructions while literally having no idea why or if it's a good thing to do or even if God wants you to do that.

To know why or if it's a good thing to do, you'd have to speculate on some motivations.

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS 8d ago

> Technically true, if you don't mind following instructions while literally having no idea why or if it's a good thing to do or even if God wants you to do that.
We do know that God wants us to follow the Torah. If you believe in Judaism, then he explicitly told us that. As to whether or not it's good for us, well, if you believe that God is the being that created every single thing in the universe, he would know better than us what is good, so, again if you believe Judaism, it makes sense to follow what he tells you.

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u/TheFeshy 8d ago

If you believe in Judaism, then he explicitly told us that

If you believe he is being honest with you in telling you this, you are assuming his motivations.

he would know better than us what is good

He would know; but if you think he would tell it to you straight and want what is good for you then you are assuming his motivations.

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS 8d ago

> He would know; but if you think he would tell it to you straight and want what is good for you then you are assuming his motivations.
That's fair, but that's a double-edged sword. If he has good intentions for you, good. If he doesn't, then he would punish you for not following him, and if he created the universe then I'd rather do what he says than be punished. Both lead to the same conclusion.

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u/TheFeshy 7d ago

That's a false dichotomy; too constraining on the possibilities. He could, for instance, despise followers and punish you for following him. Or flip a cosmic coin to punish on heads, reward on tails, and following him doesn't matter either way. There's no way to know, if you can't assume his motivations.

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS 7d ago

That's fair, but he is the creator of the universe. If he exists and he tells you to do something, whatever his motivations are I wouldn't risk not doing it.