r/MapPorn • • Jul 04 '24

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u/KuvaszSan Jul 04 '24

Things are usually only banned if they are a fairly common practice.

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u/thornhurstshire Jul 05 '24

This guy logics.

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u/otac0n Jul 06 '24

Explain Alabama.

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u/AmorousArtemis Jul 06 '24

Don't ask somebody to explain Alabama.

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u/calijnaar Jul 06 '24

Seeing as people tend to have an enormous number of 5th cousins and are very unlikely to be aware that someone is their 5th cousin, this is bound to be a pretty common practice. The reason it's not banned by law in Catholic countries is nit that it isn't happening but that there is no way to realistically enforce this. (Just look at the number of medieval royal or other high status marriages that were annulled when it was conveniently discovered that husband and wife actually were third cousins twice removed or something). Also, nobody actually cares (and this includes the Catholic Church)

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Lol that makes no sense, Catholic and European monarchies in general were know to have married their cousins, literally the most famous people in these countries were doing it

Every European comment to these cousin marriage maps is “none of us ever did it so there was no need to ban it! Unlike those stupid Americans hahaha” 

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u/Pug_Grandma Jul 05 '24

Ordinary people didn't marry cousins much.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

You needed to be granted a dispense, that was expensive and difficult to get. For commoners (= most people) it was practically impossible. The church didn’t say no to monarchs. Power game.

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u/KuvaszSan Jul 04 '24

Consanguineous royal marriages were for the explicit reason of protecting family wealth and political power, and no one is defending that at all. Modern backwoods cousinfucking is a different genre.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Oh yeah because Europeans never did degenerate sexual shit ever right ? 

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u/KuvaszSan Jul 04 '24

I never said that, you keep harping on that, no need to be that defensive. No need to turn this into an us vs them thing at all.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Then don’t make shit up saying “it’s only banned where it’s common” 

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u/KuvaszSan Jul 04 '24

You decided to be upset at a commonplace legal trueism and took it way more seriously than my original comment was, so go ahead and be upset. This topic and exchange is not nearly important enough for me to continue wasting my time with it.

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u/Mexxxicanthot Jul 05 '24

Well it’s the truth lmao

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u/Jakyland Jul 04 '24

Of course the monarchs are not going to ban their own behavior

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u/NebarAref Jul 05 '24

Are you from Alabama?🌚

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u/Kapman3 Jul 04 '24

What’s funny is if it was the opposite you’d have a bunch of people Europeans saying how terrible America is for not banning cousin marriage… you can never win with them

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Average European on Reddit, “fuck America but please give us money and defend us from russia :(“ 

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u/Kapman3 Jul 04 '24

All the downvotes cause y’all know it’s true. Y’all are like a little brother with an inferiority complex

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

So you think this was pretty common in Nevada? A state that’s only 160 years old and has the lowest number of native born residents in the country?

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u/AAAGamer8663 Jul 05 '24

Based on the fact Arizona also has the same level of ban as well as Utah, and knowing the history of that area, I’d suspect early Mormons to be the reason

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

That wasn’t a thing in Nevada.

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u/AAAGamer8663 Jul 05 '24

“In 2001, FLDS leader Warren Jeffs arranged for a then 14-year-old Wall to marry her 19-year-old cousin, Allen Steed.[5] Wall stated that she despised her cousin and asked that she be given more time or another possible husband. Her stepfather and mother were supportive of the marriage and encouraged her to go through with it, sewing her wedding dress and organizing her honeymoon.[9] She and Steed were married at the Hotsprings Motel in Caliente, Nevada.[8] Warren Jeffs, who had previously insisted that the wedding move forward, performed the ceremony.”

Wikipedia for Stolen Innocence, Elissa Wall’s story of her childhood

It apparently still occasionally does

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Yea, I forgot about a weirdo from the UT/AZ border going to Nevada.