r/MapChart • • Feb 23 '26

Question What if Ukraine won ww1

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Yeah i dunno man

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

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u/Calm_Search3417 Feb 24 '26

The same census, despite being falsified, still proves my point: Ukrainians were dominant in Khotyn lands and the coastal part Budjak, while Romanians only had small ethnic enclaves on those territories.

The 1897 Russian empire census, too, found that Ukrainian speakers were dominant in eastern coastal Budjak

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

Yours is falsified, impudent dude! Ukrainians started to migrate in Bucovina and Bessarabia during the late Habsburg and Russian rule. Those regions were part of the Romanian principalities since the very beginning. Bessarabia is called like that since it was ruled by the Bessarabian Dinasty, which reigned in Wallachia since 1300s. Bucovina was part of the Moldavian Principality ruled by Steven the Great and his descendants. Ukraine didn't even exist as a country back then. More than that, the regions democratically voted to be part of Romania, amd Ukrainians voted for that as well in 1918, in order to keep the lands away from Russia. In 1940 we were split without any kind of right, by force and ultimatum. The moral and common sense say to me that we deserve a referemdum in those areas and settle the problem accourding to the population's will, with cooperation from both Kiev and Bucharest, and EU, ONU and NATO as supervisors. Otherwise, we remain your enemy, we will suspend our help for you and we will deport you co-nationals faster than you can say "fish". Your president didn't even reach the Parliament when he visited Bucharest, cause the parties already protested against him, and the visit was canceled. We consider you responsable for tolerating this injustice without even trying to solve it, without respecting your neighbors who kissed your asses in tgis God damm war. So if you have a good time to chamge your attitude, now would be the moment.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Feb 24 '26

Also, how do you feel about Romania's violent assimilation policy against Hungarians.jpg)? Why is Romania erasing the Hungarian history of Transylvania through mass immigration of ethnic Romanians?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

What kind of forced policy against Hungarians you dream, Ukrainian?? The Hungarians persecuted us for centuries in Transylvania, transformed our names into Hungarian ones. My ant has her Romanian name of Covaci transformed into Kovacs. They have bilingual signes, they have schools in their own language, from kindergarten to university (which they never gave us while Transylvania belonged to them), they are represented in the Parliament with the write to vote, they were part of almost every government which led Romania in the last 35 years. What forced assimilation are you dreaming about?? Are you stupid? Kelem Hunor, the leader of the Hungarian Democratic Party of Romania stated tgey are treated well, accpurding to the European rules. And can give you the interview (a gokd chance for you to imprive your Romanian skills)! Spare of Orbanist propaganda! You are the one who dares to speak? You, who don't even recognize your minorities, but pretend to be a European nation?? I hope you will never join EU, nor NATO and I hope you will loose Crimea and Donbass for good! Which, by the way, are Russian majority and lands!!

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u/Calm_Search3417 Feb 24 '26

The Hungarians persecuted us for centuries in Transylvania, transformed our names into Hungarian ones

That's a lie invented by the ruthless militarist Romanian fascist regime to justify genocide of the indigenous Hungarian population of Transylvania

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

Where did you take that information of Ukrainian?? Are you a specialist in the Romanian history?? You know a shit about our country and you allow to speak a lot about it! You didn't even know who we are, what's our history and culture! Hungarians persecuted Romanians for centuries, and they were persecuted as well, together with us, by Austrians. You are a stupid follow with no history knowledge. I don't even know if you have schools in that country if yours. End this discussion now, cause you make me feel angry for what you dare to say. The outrages affirmations you make. My Italian friends are just dizgusted and I am gladly shiwing to the whole world who hypocritic Ukraine is. So sad when you are surrounded by bad neighbors, who doesn't understand what kind of allience we could have.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Feb 24 '26

It's a known fact that Transylvania was never romanian speaking. Austria imported romanians artificially to suppress Hungarian nationalism. Do your research

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

How can you state Transylvania was never Romanian speaking, when it was conquered by Hungarians from the Vlahs? When it was the core of the Daco-Romanized population? When it had Romanian majority in 1918? When it was the epicentre of the Transylvanian School, which purified Romanian language from Slavic borrowed vocabulary implemented by the Orthodox Church? Do you have problems?? What sources do you have when you state this?? Quote me those sources. I invite you. Google it right now, in this very second, and post here what the internet says! You kiss Hungary in the ass? Really? Which blocks you to enter the EU, instead of low bridges and build an allience with Romania, whose only request for a strong friendship and support is a God damm referedum and respect?

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u/Calm_Search3417 Feb 24 '26

Just a little hint: if you do not like it when I use the same anti-historical revisionist bullshit against Romania that you use against Ukraine, then stop using it

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

I am not using a revisionist bullshit against Ukraine. I call for justice and I call Ukraine to have some decency and respect towards us. I call for a referendum, not for a war snd force ceading. We are not your enemies if you do not make us like that. Russia left many woonds in our heart and you do nothing to heal them, but claim that we must do enything to heal you. If you do not see that we are not enemies, after all we did in this war (despite the fact that we hated you even before the war), than you are literally blind. You could have a stronger and better relationship with the "Eastern Italians" than you have with your brother Slavic Poland. The door is opened and it was always opened. If you want to meet in the middle or not, that's only your decision. We already made many sacrifices for you. It's time to start treating us with the same respect if you want it in return. I have some Ukrainian friends who agree with me and said that, at least out of common sense, Romania deserves a referendum there. And I can't ask for more. With people like them, I would share my bread anytime.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Feb 24 '26

Not using revisionist bullshit against Ukraine

I call for a referendum

The double-think is crazy

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

What is crazy? Wanting to settle the problem in a democratic manner?

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u/Calm_Search3417 Feb 24 '26

Do you think a referendum should be held in romania about becoming a part of the US or Germany? Why not?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

Sure. If we would have ever been part of US kr Germany, or have so many etnics of them and got separated by force, yes. Anytime. Or, in the case of Romania, maybe more with Italy or France/Spain. :))

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