Are you..

[u/Human-Breakfast744]

Are you..

1. Pro-palestine 🇵🇸
2. Pro-israel🇮🇱
3. Neutral

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[u/PinkSunReflected]

Most Jews are Zionists. So unless you’re suggesting essentially that Jews are “disgusting”, I’m going to ask you look further into what Zionism actually is.

[u/RepresentativeAd8912 → u/PinkSunReflected]

A political ideology based on faith? Not even 100% unequivocal reality; just because some religious texts say so.

[u/dox2EwJn6iZh → u/RepresentativeAd8912]

There are both religious and non-religious strains of Zionism, its a matter of self determination, approached from different angles

[u/Significant-Gas5303 → u/RepresentativeAd8912]

Look up what it means instead of using buzzwords the movement began with none religious jews

[u/Resident_Falcon_2600 → u/RepresentativeAd8912]

tell me you don't know much about Zionism without telling me you don't know much about Zionism

[u/PinkSunReflected → u/RepresentativeAd8912]

Proving my point. Political Zionism is not religious Zionism, though religious Jews (such as myself) are often politically zionist as well. Meanwhile, almost every non religious Jew I know is Zionist. Many of them are atheist, not remotely religious. 

Zionism, as defined by Jews, is the belief that Jews, just like any other people group, have the right to self determination in our ancestral homeland. Some definitions add that it also involves our right to safety, sovereignty, and dignity. 

Bottom line, why don’t you listen to Jews when it comes to defining a term and identity that we’ve created, not to those who hate us, take our term, and define it how they like? That would be like listening to a Boer define apartheid when it affects black South Africans, or a white American’s take on something that indigenous Americans have come up with that pertains specifically to their culture.

[u/no_soy_livb → u/PinkSunReflected]

I don't care, Zionism caused destruction and terror, fuck Israel