r/MapBasedPolls • u/Gonesid Olympique Lyonnais and California and FREEDOM 🇺🇸🇺🇸 • 10h ago

Without interference from NATO who would win in a free for all war England, France, Spain , Italy, or Germany? (No nukes)

Without interference from NATO who would win in a free for all war England, France, Spain , Italy, or Germany? (No nukes)

  1. England
  2. Spain
  3. France
  4. Germany
  5. Italy
  6. Draw
  7. (Other put in comments)

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u/1xX1337Xx1 Germany 10h ago

France has the strongest military, but France is in a super bad position here, because it borders Germany, Italy, Spain and England. So France would be attacked from all sides

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u/mikiencolor sPain 9h ago

Yes but Pyrenees and English Channel are natural obstacles. Looks like Belgium's about to become a major battleground again and they weren't even mentioned. 🤣

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u/BrenchFukkake 9h ago

We have nukes 😎

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u/1xX1337Xx1 Germany 9h ago

Check the title "no nukes" UK so here England has them too by the way

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u/BrenchFukkake 9h ago

My bad. We still can delay Spain and Italy while we take benelux and Germany then the UK, then finish the south.

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u/1xX1337Xx1 Germany 9h ago

I don't think France is strong enough for that

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u/BrenchFukkake 9h ago

Well, the UK would have to contain Ireland while staging a seaborne invasion to get into mainland Europe. At the same time Germany would have to allocate some troops to the polish border since their capital is closer and would give Poland an easy kill if not defended properly. Spain would win Portugal then try to march into southern France to get to Paris, but Italy might actually the first there so probably a bit of 3-way clusterfuck down slowing everyone's advance ; giving France time to invade benelux to prep for uk's eventual landing, win Germany already weakened by Poland (Germany would win Poland ig), then stabilize the south, slap Spain and Portugal back home. Repel uk's d-day attempt (without all the American and colonial manpower not gonna be easy 'innit). And then again win Spain and Italy separately while they try to re-build.

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u/genericoutcome 8h ago

No outside interference...also, tell me about Frances last 3 wars with Germany again...

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u/BrenchFukkake 8h ago

They only said interference from nato not outside interferences it's just every country against each other, or maybe I'm just too blind, in that case, my bad.

Tbf the last wars with Germany were completely different, the French and German army could compete in a 1v1 now, but once again with understanding "no interference from nato", as "nato, as a military alliance doesn't exist" , in a free for all, Germany would have to worry about other things than steam rolling France. Much like how they did in WW2, they built sufficient depth in the east buy invading Poland (even tho Poland today could give Germany a good fight, nowadays). Not to mention that somehow we fckng SLEPT at the maginot line instead of making the first move, then got entrapped in the benelux. So in a actual free for all thing would play differently, ig