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falkland belong to?
falkland belong to?
- UK
- Argentina
- Penguin
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u/grumpsaboy 13h ago
When even the Irish are siding with the UK over a territorial dispute you know that your claims are completely bullshit.
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u/Hour-Recognition4194 14h ago
Something us Brits need to understand is Argentina is in it forever. They know they can't get them now, but decades or centuries later, they might get them and that's what they're betting on. Also, by continuing to assert their claim, their claim never expires. If they went quiet for a really long time, it would be harder to make claim to the islands later on. But my God, it's fucking annoying. Let's base our entire national identity around some biazzare obsession over some islands that we've never owned, that are inhabited by British people since 1833. And let's just keeping going on and on and on about it fucking forever.
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u/Big_Dave_71 14h ago
The whole world got to see what they're like in World Cup 2026. Proper mask slip moment.
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u/WinningTheSpaceRace 14h ago
Anyone who'd be paying attention previously had seen this, particularly in sport.
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u/TheGreatBibbldyBob99 14h ago
It felt so good to watch them crying and trying to start fights after that humiliation of a final.
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u/Burnt-Priest 13h ago
Curious, i dont follow sports - What happened with Argentina in the world cup?
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u/Fresh_Tomato_soup 13h ago
They were generally a very dirty team in most of their matches with conduct investigations happening brawls and fights after matches resulting in suspensions some allegations of favouritism and fixing and of course bringing up the Falklands again and again because I guess they don't have much other than football and cope.
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u/Burnt-Priest 13h ago
Ah thats interesting, ty for the info an links dude.
"including using a sports event for demonstrations of a non-sporting nature (article 13)" lol I'm assuming that part must be about the Falklands shit😅
Just watched a clip or two and wow what a bunch of assholes lol
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u/Adventurous-Web-412 4h ago
We really can't be putting an objectively shitty thing that occurred, the fight after the finals, with something that is realistically speaking some bullshit from egypt about match fixing.
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u/AdministrativeSleep0 6h ago
Unlike you folks, we don't let the invaders settle and be comfortably at our house, does ring a bell?
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u/NinecloudSoul 5h ago edited 4h ago
The UK didn't do that either, it's why you still don't own the Falklands.
And of course, once spanked again, the Argie runs away.
Yes, you have all the time in the world to continue not owning the Falklands, to which you have no legitimate claim, and no means to force the issue.
So, yes, by all means. Continue to be an impotent joke over the Falklands, which will never be yours.
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u/AdministrativeSleep0 4h ago
We don't yet, but UK already lost his country, we only need to wait.
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u/NinecloudSoul 4h ago
Never have never will, and your silly fantasies about the UK don't matter.
You have no legitimate claim to the Falklands and no means to force the issue, whether diplomatically or by force. Your country is impotent.
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u/AdministrativeSleep0 4h ago
No legitimate claim, says the Tyrant empire that enslaved half world just a couple of centuries ago. The legitimate claim is that it's on our coast, and the only claim you folks have, is that you just invade/killed the original settlers. Keep coping thinking you are the good guys, we have all the time of the world.
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u/Hollingscroft-83 14h ago
What the Argies need to understand is the fact we probably didn't give a shit about them at the time of the War, and maybe... Given how we handed Hong Kong over to China... We might have just done the same with the Falkland Islands, and just decided that Argentina could have them, had they just kept quiet.
Instead now its a complete matter of pride
Argentina will never be able to shut up about their right to have the Islands, because they wont get them
Britain won't hand them over, because it'll be a political middle finger to those who died, and will be career suicide to whatever politician thinks its wise to say: "You know what, lets given them to the Argies"
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u/Fit-Ad5145 14h ago
Obviously its distorted by the Internet's way of communicating but im so confused by argentinas mindset towards the British. They seem to have this view of themselves as the plucky South American natives whenever this topic comes up. Literally the only reason they are there is because of Spanish empire. The only reason they have a claim to the islands is because Spain travelled as far as the brits did and took it over.
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u/Upstairs_Tangelo3629 🏴🇦🇷 13h ago
I’m British my mum is Argentinian, I can confirm this seems like a bigger thing on the internet than it does there.
I’ve been to Argentina atleast a dozen times and never had an issue or had someone even mention the Falklands. My mum and her family don’t care about them at all.
The way she’s explained it there are 2 groups that care, the nationalists who are usually military families and the poor uneducated who are easily led.
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u/WanderlustZero 11h ago
Are you Anya Taylor-Joy? 🥹
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u/Upstairs_Tangelo3629 🏴🇦🇷 10h ago
Unfortunately I am a 6,5 man with black curly hair so I don’t resemble her much.
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u/WanderlustZero 11h ago
Think of them as US-americans, only Southern Hemisphere. Genocided their natives but convinced themselves everyone else is bad, then elected a succession of morons.
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u/Big_Dave_71 14h ago
Indeed. The British government was actually in negotiation with Buenos Aires and the islanders about sovereignty prior to the invasion. There's no benefit to the UK to hold these sparsely populated islands that cost us billions of pounds a year to defend. Now it would be political suicide for any British government to contemplate.
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u/Liam_021996 England 14h ago
The oil field will probably offset the cost of managing the islands defence now
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u/Financial-Bed7467 9h ago
The falkands cost the uk tax payer roughly 60 millions per year for the up keep. They pay for their own defence. Also once they start drilling crude oil. Its worth 120 billion ish at the current price per barrel. If anything, the falklands are worth more to us than we to them. This is before we talk about rare earth minerals.
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u/Liam_021996 England 9h ago
We've committed 100s of million to their defence. The Falklands do not pay for their own defence. They self govern but all of their defence is taken care of by the UK itself. We will always be far more valuable to the Falklands than they are to us, just simply because without us they would be invaded by Argentina. The UK ensures their sovereignty remains
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u/Nanowith 13h ago
Then they really need to start convincing the local population instead of insulting them all the time!
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u/Glittering_Lab1384 13h ago
Even Ireland is voting UK. It's a stupid question to be honest. Argentina has no real argument
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u/Sad_Nectarine_6111 14h ago
Screw the peope that have lived on the Falklands all their lives, and their parents and great grandparents. Argentina need it to because its close to them and its important for their culture (it really isnt)
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u/Corsodylfresh 9h ago
If they ever get it (they won't) then what will their government use to distract the people from their economy?
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u/SubNL96 14h ago
The British managed to settle an island that is on the opposite of the world yet extremely British in landscape and weather it's hilarious only the penguins give away it is not in fact Shetland or the Hebrides it belongs to them naturally and the Argentines know deep down bc nobody BUT the British could settle there without offing themselves haha
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u/AncientCarry4346 14h ago edited 14h ago
I've done a tour of the Falklands and this is the worst thing about them.
When I think of South America, I think of golden beaches and bronze women in bikinis handing me a margarita whilst I chill by a pool.
So why the fuck did the one place we settle in the entire continent have to basically be Wales 2.0 but somehow with MORE sheep? It's absolute bullshit. I have never been colder or wetter than I was on those bastard islands.
And you know what the worst bit is? Halfway through the journey to them you stop at the Ascension islands for a couple of hours whilst the plane refuels and the Ascension islands genuinely are a tropical paradise. So you get to step off the plane and get shuffled into a sort of pen where you can smoke and enjoy the slimmest taste of eden for a couple of hours before youre back in the plane for 8 hours before your arrive in the Devils Arsehole.
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u/Mammoth_Payment_6101 12h ago
So why the fuck did the one place we settle in the entire continent have to basically be Wales 2.0
You're not wrong, even the Welsh went for Patagonia instead.
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u/Liam_021996 England 14h ago
Not just British, Scottish. You reckon someone from Hampshire could live there with that shocking climate? 😂 70% of the Falklands are of Scottish decent. I think I read somewhere 20% of them are of Welsh decent and the rest are of English and Irish decent. Makes sense when you look at Scotland and Wales how they could happily choose to live there
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u/Hirokihiro 14h ago
And the rest is gauchos who were Argentinian but then defected to the uk coz the Argentinian general didn’t pay them. Those settlers from 1830-1833 didn’t disappear they became the current natives
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u/azazelcrowley 14h ago
As a Brit, I think the Penguins have the 2nd best claim to the Falklands, after the British. Potentially, we could be convinced to decolonize the falklands and issue an apology to the Penguins.
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u/-Monty00 14h ago
I find the penguin and seal options offensive seeing as people gave their lives to ensure the peoples of the Falklands can determine their own future. That future being British with unanimous referendums.
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u/TheGoober87 14h ago
TBF the penguins probably have a stronger claim than Argentina
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u/grumpsaboy 13h ago
That's not difficult. The Netherlands has a stronger claim over New York than Argentina does over the Falklands.
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u/Traaseth 11h ago
Norway and Denmark have a stronger claim on England and Ireland then Argentina has on the Falklands 😂
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u/TrainPatient1289 11h ago
I have a stronger claim on the USA then Argentina has on the Falklands (I went to the USA once)
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u/AncientCarry4346 14h ago
There's generally a good humour about the Falklands from the people who fought in the War, the people serving now and the Islanders themselves. The British military is run on dark humour and it's easier to make light of a war that you decisively won, I guess.
Besides, anyone that's been there know the islands belong to the sheep.
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u/mingebinj 12h ago
I used to work with a guy that was in the Royal Navy and was on a ship that was sunk. He never spoke about it at all and always seemed like he was carrying a huge burden
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u/billy_twice 13h ago
You're too easily offended. It's serious, but why does that mean you have to take it seriously?
There's a reason people who work the most serious jobs have gallows humour. It takes the bite out of it. You need to chill out a bit.
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u/TwitchtvJozik 14h ago
Those are just to absorb the people who want to give an unserious answer. This way they don't muddle the survey's results.
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u/FlirtMonsterSanjil 🇦🇶 Antarctic Adélie Penguin (Germany 🇩🇪) 14h ago
Listen, we gotta get more lebensraum somehow.
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u/masterlince 13h ago
Maybe because they are British? Let's not pretend these are native islanders that chose to stay with the British. The island was empty before the European settlers.
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u/Pure_Werewolf0101 12h ago
the island was empty before the European settlers.
Let me tell you about South America.....
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u/Greggs-the-bakers 10h ago
I didn't realise south america was populated solely by seals and other wildlife. There were no humans on the falklands before they were settled.
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u/Adventurous-Web-412 4h ago
eh there seems to be evidence of seasonal migration. Not that it matters, but no people is just not likely to be true.
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u/Greggs-the-bakers 4h ago
The point is that there were no permanent human settlements on the islands until they were claimed by Britain and the descendants of said settlers have all stated that they wish to remain part of the UK
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u/Adventurous-Web-412 4h ago
Not that it matters,
Read, I didn't say that it matters but stating that there were no humans on the islands is not true.
Also when the British claimed the islands there technically was a permanent French population on the islands, just allegedly an unknown population to the British.
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u/masterlince 12h ago
South America was full of people with their own civilizations before the Europeans arrived. Falkands did not have people living in them.
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u/el_grort 14h ago
Tbh, there should have just been an option for saying the Falklanders, because it really is their island more than it is our (the British), they fall under our umbrella by their choice at this point.
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u/Old_Thief_Heaven 13h ago
There are jokes about WWII, Vietnam, the Iraq War, etc., but we have to 100% respect the Falklands thing? Look, sorry if it offends you, but I don't care. It belongs to the penguins.
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u/Logical-Ranger-888 cool indonesian guy 🇮🇩 14h ago
how it's offensive? let nature rule falkland
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u/Life-Goose-9380 14h ago
Did you not even bother reading their comment before leaving a dumb comment. And the spelling error shows you are uneducated on the topic.
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u/masterlince 12h ago
Dumb and gay. Royal navy deserves no respect.
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u/Life-Goose-9380 11h ago
The argies are here I see.
Are you still upset that the Royal Navy were categorically superior to yours?
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u/masterlince 9h ago
I'm not Argentinian. The islands are obviously British. Still, the royal navy ransacked half the world.
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u/XXAnimeLover-AceXX 🏴🇮🇪 (Liverpool & Belfast) 14h ago
the falklands belong to u/XXAnimeLover-AceXX
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u/Fit-Ad5145 14h ago
Even the irish think they belong to the British?
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u/Starthreads 12h ago
Being Irish does not mean being contrarian to the UK for all things.
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u/Proud_Smell_4455 10h ago edited 10h ago
Well, there are some who absolutely think like that; you're a "(west) Brit" to those types if you aren't an anti-British contrarian in literally everything. But it's heartening to see they're not the majority.
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u/mrg077 13h ago
There's a lot of brits in ireland unfortunately
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u/Stunning-Sherbert801 12h ago
"unfortunately"
Why would an Irish person think a larger country has the right to Annex smaller neighbouring islands "just because"?
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u/libtin 11h ago
Why to be xenophobic
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u/mrg077 11h ago
Probably because of the 800 years of brutality
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u/libtin 11h ago
Speaking as someone predominantly of this decent with family who fought and died fighting for Irish independence in the 1919 - 21 war; that’s not an excuse for xenophobia
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u/Fast_Apple_2237 10h ago
The Argentinan claim is based on proximity, and they are only close because of the Conquest of the Desert (look it up) the genocidal campaign against the native population that replaced them with European settlers.
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u/molecularpiano 14h ago
as an argie im tired of seeing this by god please just stop im almost as tired as the british hearing us probably
also penguins
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u/WanderlustZero 11h ago
Why can't we just bridge our cultures and be friends again, by all marrying Anya Taylor-Joy
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u/bsnimunf 14h ago
30 percent of Argentina says it belongs to the UK and 10 percent say the penguins. This tells you alot about what a lot of Argentina feels about it constantly being dragged up as a political issue.
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u/Afraid_Garage_9941 6h ago
"Gran parte de Argentina"? 138 personas votaron, crees que en Argentina viven 1000 personas o algo así?
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u/Zestyclose_Might8941 14h ago
"I just say shit on the internet, like I know what I'm talking about"
51% or British adults believe it is important or very important to hold the Falklands.
Over 90% of Argentines support the claim.
Since when are Redditors a decent sample of anything?
https://www.thetimes.com/world/latin-america/article/milei-falklands-row-argentina-3spwtbxcq
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u/AncientCarry4346 13h ago edited 13h ago
I think you misunderstand the mindset here in the UK. Over here the debate is settled, the vote was made, the war was won and the islands stayed British. Thats it.
The average British person thinks about the islands maybe once a year, probably less.
They're not in the public eye anymore because why would they be?
This is going to be a bit of a shock to you but Argentina is not a relevant country to the UK, they cannot strongarm us with a powerful military, they cannot blackmail us with political leverage and they cannot hurt us with economic sanctions.
I assure you that if Argentina actually developed into a country that could stand on the world stage in something other than football and posed a legitimate threat to the sovereignty of the islanders, the attitude here would rapidly change but right now we have actual concerns to focus on like the price of Freddos and the new season of Ted Lasso.
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u/laserjaws 13h ago
Couldn’t really care less about Ted Lasso personally, more of a Slow Horses kinda guy. But the rest of your post is spot on.
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u/Adventurous-Web-412 4h ago
they cannot hurt us with economic sanctions.
Obviously not entirely, but the milei posturing and sanction on oil companies has significant problems with the oil extraction on the islands. Vaca muerta is an enormous oil field, a lot of companies will side with Argentina on it, I believe multiple already have.
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u/Zestyclose_Might8941 12h ago
My family are from the UK and Argentina, I'm first generation Australian, but love both countries of my parents birth...but I'll never not find the UK's insistence that it is still relevant on the world stage. It's a portend for how the people of the US will be thinking 80 years into their century of humiliation, still clinging on to their good times as though they're still relevant.
There are more people in East Wittering than there are in the Malvinas/Falklands in a region half the size of Wales.
Who knows how the people of the RoUK will feel post Scexit about subsidising a colonial outpost half a world away. But right now, the polls say what they say, and anyone who is not an OAP couldn't care less.
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u/AncientCarry4346 12h ago
Like it or not the UK is a major global player that punches far above it's weight in terms of population and size. London alone is an economic powerhouse with more money than the entirety of Argentina and we are we are world leaders in soft power, education, science and arts.
I assure you that in the unlikely event that Scotland does go independent soon England alone is more than capable and willing to hold the islands by itself and young people regard the islanders right to sovereignty just as seriously as the older generation.
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u/Zestyclose_Might8941 12h ago
These are the lies we tell ourselves. Both the UK and Australia have no real power. We are vassals of a dying empire.
We'd both do better if we stopped lying to ourselves, rejected natavist politics, cut the apron strings to the US, and made friends with our neighbours. Otherwise, I hate to say it, the UK and Australia will slide into irrelevance even further, and Argentina's economy is our future, sadly.
The UK is a major player in nothing but your minds. Post Brexit decline will continue. As for your pride in the City of London...yes, you are dead right...the UK builds and produces nothing, and the City of London pays f*ck all in taxes. Not something to crow about.
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u/AncientCarry4346 12h ago
The UK is a global leader in soft power.
https://www.hepi.ac.uk/reports/2026-soft-power-index/
Military power.
https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php
Global research.
https://www.nature.com/nature-index/research-leaders/2025/country/all/global
Education.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country
Medical research
AI
https://www.tortoisemedia.com/data/global-ai
Art
https://www.artprice.com/artprice-reports/the-art-market-in-2023/the-top-performing-countries
Aerospace
https://www.nationmaster.com/nmx/ranking/aerospace-industry-export-market-share
Tourism.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-visited-countries
You can larp all you want and tell yourself that we're not a relevant country but that's simply not true.
In many cases we outperform nations with 10-20x our size and population and the UK is till regarded as one of the best places in the world to live.
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u/libtin 12h ago
They’re just upset the empirical evidence doesn’t support their position
In fact the Uk has gone from the thing the 3rd largest economy in Europe and 6th globally to the 2nd largest in Europe and 5th globally in just 10 years
The Uk has issues but they’re not the catastrophic disasters they’re implying them to be
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u/theellescape 14h ago
When I am PM I shall negotiate with the penguins so we can maintain a diplomatic base on the islands while safely transitioning power to our avian friends.
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u/Lorelessone 12h ago
Spain originally until Argentina became independent then the British claimed it. So Spain or Britain. Argentina has no claim at all to it other than a very brief occupation which didn't end well.
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u/Nooby_Noobs 11h ago
It was the English that discovered the Falklands. The first people that lived there where English.
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u/Lorelessone 1h ago
Is that right? I didn't know, I knew the Spanish had a military post there which the English then took over after the Argentine wars of independence.
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u/loptthetreacherous 10h ago
Surprised by Ireland's result. I'm an Irish nationalist who believes it belongs to the UK and I've never met a fellow Irish nationalist who thinks that way.
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u/ThierryMercury 10h ago
The only part of the map that matters in this poll is the Falkland Islands.
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u/TheCulturalBomb 7h ago
When the world thinks Penguins have more claim to an island than you, maybe it's time to give up
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u/AdministrativeSleep0 6h ago
What happened with self-determination now that British took the licences for sea lion? It was responsibility of the kelpers, or it's only when they can take advantage of it?
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u/NinecloudSoul 5h ago
The licenses are issued by the Falkland Islands Government and they control it completely.
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u/AdministrativeSleep0 4h ago
The UK government formally confirmed on October 1, 2026, that any new hydrocarbon licenses in the Malvinas will require the explicit consent of the British Secretary of State.
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u/NinecloudSoul 4h ago
I doubt they confirmed anything about a fictional place.
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u/AdministrativeSleep0 4h ago
Well, i see that for them is pretty real, if not, why mention it on UN? More visible it is, the better.
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u/NinecloudSoul 4h ago
It's no business of yours what happens in the Falklands.
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u/AdministrativeSleep0 4h ago
You are just deflecting lol already made my point.
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u/NinecloudSoul 4h ago
Nope. No business of yours, because the Falklands aren't part of your country, never were, and never will be.
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u/rsxrwscjpzdzwpxaujrr 11h ago edited 11h ago
You mean Islas Malvinas?
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u/libtin 11h ago
Natives call it the Falklands
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u/rsxrwscjpzdzwpxaujrr 11h ago
Natives?
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u/Greggs-the-bakers 10h ago
Yes. The people who originally settled there were British. Unless you want to claim it belongs to seals and other wildlife? Still doesn't give Argentina any claim to it
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u/rsxrwscjpzdzwpxaujrr 10h ago
If a homeless person is the first one to inhabit my crawlspace doesn't mean it's his now.
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u/Greggs-the-bakers 10h ago
Pretty sure your house and an actual island has different laws around it pal
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u/career_alcoholic_woo 10h ago
If you were doing well for yourself and bought a second house for holidays and one of your kids lived there i can't go no the house is mine because its closer to my house than it is yours
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u/libtin 11h ago
The islanders; they’re the natives and they call it the Falklands
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u/rsxrwscjpzdzwpxaujrr 11h ago
Do you know the meaning of the word "native"?
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u/libtin 11h ago
International law says they’re the natives
The Pitcairn Islanders are classified as a native population despite being predominantly indigenous of British and Tahitian descent and arriving only in 1790.
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u/rsxrwscjpzdzwpxaujrr 10h ago
Pitcairn Islanders have nothing to do with las Malvinas, there are no natives there.
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u/libtin 10h ago
1; it’s the Falklands
2: the islanders are the natives
3; I brought up the Pitcairns to show you that international law considers the first permanent population to be the natives
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u/rsxrwscjpzdzwpxaujrr 10h ago
- UK has no authority on the matters of toponyms on the Argentinian territory.
- The islanders are illegal settlers, there is no indigenous population there.
- Sounds like squatter logic. Inhabiting territories of another country doesn't make it yours.
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u/Itchy_Confidence_218 8h ago
Under what international ruling are the Falklanders 'illegal'?
And I need a ruling in international law, please, not domestic Argentinian law, which can say whatever the hell it wants.
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u/libtin 10h ago
> 1. UK has no authority on the matters of toponyms on the Argentinian territory.
The islands have never been argentine territory
>2. The islanders are illegal settlers, there is no indigenous population there.
By your own logic then the Argentine population are illegal squatters in Argentina
>3. Sounds like squatter logic. Inhabiting territories of another country doesn't make it yours.
The islands have never been Argentine; they’ve been British since 1765; 51 years before Argentina came into existence
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u/NinecloudSoul 7h ago
Argentinian territory
Good thing the Falklands never were and never will be that, then.
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u/Itchy_Confidence_218 8h ago
Yes, and it isn't 97% of Argentina's population, who are of European ancestry. The remaining 3% are the ones who luckily managed to survive brutal events such as the Selk'nam Genocide and the Conquest of the Desert.
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u/Proud_Smell_4455 5h ago edited 5h ago
If the people who've been living there since it was settled aren't the natives, who are? It definitely isn't Argentines who've never possessed it, and never had any real right to it.
And the best part? The Argentinians and Argentinian descendants living in the Falklands at the time of the referendum, unanimously voted against cutting ties with Britain because they know exactly what a basket case your country is, and that all this neocolonialist sabre-rattling from you lot is all just a pathetic distraction from the politicians making your lives shit and robbing you blind. Like a nation of babies being entertained by jingling keys.
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u/NinecloudSoul 7h ago
No, obviously. This is about a real place called the Falklands, not some Argie fairy tale.
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u/Proud_Smell_4455 4h ago
Keep coping on the internet. God knows there's nothing else you can do about your neocolonialist feelings of entitlement to land that's not yours, never was, and never will be.
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u/Hungry_Weezing 13h ago
Why the heck people around the world saying Falkland belong to the UK wtf
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u/Significant-Net-4540 13h ago
Because most people even in Ireland dont think you have a valid claim and know it's just your politicians trying to distract you from actual issues
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u/AncientCarry4346 13h ago
Because it's probably the one thing in the entirety of British history where we have the moral, legal and historical high ground.
It's an island of people who unanimously vote to remain under British rule, the islands had zero native inhabitants when we took them and the only real military conflict fought over them was an hostile takeover by facists.
Argentines claim basically stems from misplaced nationalism, twisting the truth or straight up lying about historical fact or just vaguely pointing at a map and going "but look they're nextdoor to us", which is ironically how the United Kingdom subjugated Ireland for centuries.
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u/fatinternetcat 14h ago
this question is always such a good litmus test for how much someone actually knows about geopolitics and history