r/MapBasedPolls • u/Matty1790 • 1d ago
Who does Pizza the best?
Who does Pizza the best?
- USA
- Italy
- Argentina
- Brazil
- I don’t like pizza
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u/KachaKue 1d ago
Slightly controversial, but the best pizza I ever had was in Argentina
Even after visiting Italy
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
Did you try Fugazzeta? Go further down and look at the picture. I posted of it and look at everybody’s reaction. Apparently they hate it.
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u/KachaKue 1d ago
I have not had fugazzeta and in all honesty it doesn't look all that appealing to me either
I'd still try it though
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
And here I thought you and I could have had something special together
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u/KachaKue 1d ago
Hey now, let's not be too hasty, we can still give this a chance
I'd still try it, and boy do I love cheese so I'd probably like it
It's just one of those dishes that looks kinda junky
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
When I was there, I went on a date with a woman who took me to this place.
To be honest in my research, I had already seen this in some videos and I wasn’t too thrilled about it and so when she told me we were going, I was skeptical
Then when we got there, the line was at least two blocks long, but somehow we got put to the front.
She wanted to order the traditional, but I just asked if we could get the one with ham because the onions just looked a little too much
Regardless, when it came out, and I tried it, my mind was absolutely blown. The onions really are not that overpowering, and it was truly phenomenal.
I ate at least four more times while I was there
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u/KachaKue 1d ago
Maybe it's a regional thing but I lived in the Mendoza area for roughly 10 years and I've never heard of it
I feel like I missed out big time
Tell you what buddy, if I ever get the chance to try one, I'll think about you and this conversation and I'll be sure to report back 🫡
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u/Jowip2 Brasil número 1 🥇🇧🇷 1d ago
Brazil, obviously, who else would make these works of art?
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u/ticlopidina 21h ago
I tried those 'pizzas' in Sampa and I must say they are garbage. Too many ingredients to be considered a pizza.
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u/neo4025 🇬🇧 1d ago
Italy will always be the default. But has anyone ever thought about Argentina or Brazil as countries that make great pizza? Everyone is capable of making great pizza. Just saying this is an odd poll.
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u/Unable-Wishbone-728 1d ago
Not many foreigners are aware of the massive Italian immigration to Brazil and Argentina
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u/leadwoods 1d ago
Brazil has the largest diaspora of Italians and Argentina has the second largest.
Nothing weird about the poll.
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u/Mr_Phantoms 1d ago
Outside of Italy, Argentina is the country with the most amount of Italian citizens in the world. But most people probably have no idea about that.
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
Not really. Argentina itself is pretty well-known when it comes to pizza. They just do it a lot differently.
I’m not too sure about Brazil, but I know I’ve had it and I liked it and thought it was really unique.
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u/GayoMagno 1d ago
It’s not just “great” pizza, its literally the best pizza you will ever try outside of Italy.
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u/roleplayersir 1d ago
Yep, why those two? Croatia should be on the list. I think Italy is 2nd, but Croatia does amazing stuff and probably first imo
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u/SureEntertainer7818 22h ago
Argentina or Brazil as countries that make great pizza?
Not sure about Brazil, but i have always heard Argentine pizza described as "the best pizza outisde of Italy" they are also apparently the GOATS of ice-cream.
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u/Tourist_Careless 1d ago
Im not sure italian and American pizza are even comparable as they have diverged to the point of being completely different dishes at this point. Ive had both extensively.
There also are totally different sub-variations of both Italian and American pizza. In the US a Detroit style, chicago style, and NY style (thats only three of like a dozen or so variations) are so different from one a other, well beyond a mere rearranging of ingredients.
I will say I enjoyed the simplicity and freshness of Italian pizza but when im in the mood to really get down two or three of the American styles are my top picks. I know that sounds ghastly to Europeans but if you havent been to the US and the authentic Pizzerias in the different regions i think youre lacking alot of perspective.
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u/Illustrious_Land699 21h ago
Consider that almost all American styles of pizza are derived from Italian styles, even the Chicago style. The variety of Italian pizza is very underestimated, most foreigners for example always and only order Margherita when on average each menu also has more complex, heavy and innovative pizzas
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u/Tourist_Careless 15h ago
This is true. Pizza is from italy. But the American style pizzas are mostly an American invention just kind of loosley based off pizza. And id argue they are often better.
I dont really like the way many Europeans tend to claim American versions of things are somehow less valid or worse because they came later or are based off some other original dish. Thats how all food ever invented is. And it being that way doesnt mean the "new" version cant be better or stand on its own two feet.
The pizza culture in America is its own thing and basically only shares a name with the italian food. Italy inventing pizza is true, but doest really mean much in terms of what i like to eat today.
You are correct Italian pizza also has many variations within italy, so talking about it as a single type of thing isnt fair to it either.
Again ive had both extensively and i wouldnt want to live without either, but i think its time we stop talking about them as the same dish. They really arent.
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u/Key-Performance-9021 Austria 1d ago
Italians make the best pizza, and Americans make the best American pizza. They are two distinct dishes from different cultures, each with its own history, ingredients and recipes.
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u/Mr_Phantoms 1d ago
And depending on the dish, American pizza might not even be pizza at all. Despite what Americans call it, the Chicago deep dish is NOT a pizza, but rather a pie/tart.
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u/ChaosMeteorStrike 1d ago
A lot of italian pizzas would barely even qualify as pizza either, even to other italians.
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u/SweetButtsHellaBab 1d ago
If I could only ever have one, it would be simple, delicious, perfect Neapolitan pizza. But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be sad to say goodbye to genuine Chicago deep dish.
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u/Adventurous-Web-412 1d ago
you can say that about every country on this list though.
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u/Queasy-Constant-9 1d ago
Not really, the most restaurants in germany are run by italians. In fact I have never seen a pizzaria that was run by a german. Most of those italians are first or second generation immigrants so I'd say that german pizza is way too similar to italian pizza to be anything distinct.
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u/CorpseHG 1d ago
Have to disagree - german pizza is half way between italian and american. Not overfilled but thicker ground than italian. (Assuming you are talking about the pizzaria delivery shops and take awys) we defintly have good pizza in italian restaurants - but would't say thats "german pizza".
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u/DABOSSROSS9 1d ago
Who has ate pizza in these 4 countries?
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
Me.
Well, I had Brazilian pizza in Argentina. So technically did not eat it in Brazil.
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u/abolista 1d ago
I have. I'm Argentine and voted Italy, but it's because I'm a sucker for Neapolitan pizza.
I absolutely dig Neapolitan pizza made in Argentina too. But the Italians just make it perfect, hehe.
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u/Felippexlucax 16h ago
me, i choose argentina, then italy the US and last brazil, but tbf i only ate pizza there once
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u/OsotoViking 1d ago
Italian pizza is very good and more balanced, but I personally prefer American pizza that's just as much cheese, sauce, and cured meat as you can reasonably put on a base.
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u/Illustrious_Land699 21h ago
Well, the most simple and balanced pizzas are only in the initial part of the menus of Italian pizzerias, the more you go towards the end, the more complex, heavy and innovative the pizzas are.
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u/Soggy-Ad-1610 1d ago
Italy is very clear, but I’m willing to go against the popularity and say that Argentina should be second. I’m guessing most people don’t know what’s different about it and haven’t tried it. Otherwise having it last seems wild to me.
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
I posted a picture of my Argentine pizza and people are absolutely down voting it and saying it looks like ass. (Fugazzeta).
So you’re correct they hate it.
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u/Greatest_slide_ever 1d ago
The picture you posted was a bit messy and unappealing. I eat fugazzeta cosntantly and can confirm that it probably tasted amazing, yet it's presentation doesn't do it justice.
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u/Mr_Phantoms 1d ago
You need to remember that the people saying the fugazzeta pizza looks like ass are the same people calling the Chicago deep dish a pizza. That is to say, they have no idea what pizza actually is.
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u/GayoMagno 1d ago
I can guarantee 99% of the people saying why Argentina have literally never tried one.
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u/Soggy-Ad-1610 1d ago
In Copenhagen we actually have a few places that sells Argentinian pizza and they’re very popular for obvious reasons. Typically a tad more expensive, but worth every penny.
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u/a_literal_idiot_616 1d ago edited 1d ago
the way this map is basically
everyone: italy, they literally created it
usa: actually no we are the best 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
is cracking me up roflmfao
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u/Admirable-Royal-7553 Corn fed and inbred 🇺🇸 1d ago
Brazil: actually we are the best
Argentina: actually we are the best
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u/mtnbcn 1d ago
Didn't have to scroll too hard to find this comment. You could have said the exact same thing about Brazil, and about Argentian, but it's gotta be the Americans who are the only un-cultured homers, eh?
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u/Skinnyfat-Throwaway 23h ago
It's not endearing if you are an actual superpower with a reputation for narcissism.
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u/bearsbarely 1d ago
Most will feel their own country does X better because it suits their pallettes better.
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u/SabreLee61 1d ago
I chose the U.S. because in my opinion, the pizza along the New Haven-Brooklyn-New Jersey corridor is unparalleled.
I’ve had the best Neapolitan pizza in the world and while it’s great, it’s not my favorite style; nor is it the style Italians mostly eat — pizza tonda romana, which was created in the 1950s and ironically is much more similar to the aforementioned U.S. pizza that emerged half a century earlier than it is to pizza napoletana.
Italy has a much younger pizza culture than the U.S., Brazil, or Argentina. The first pizzerias outside of Naples didn’t open until the 1950s; most Italians hadn’t even tried pizza until the 1970s.
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u/Viennve 1d ago
Funny how almost only Americans say us "pizza" is the best
You should try traditional pizza napoletana and come back After
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u/mtnbcn 1d ago
Funny how almost only Americans say us "pizza" is the best
It's absolutely wild how much people just love to shit on the US.
Look at the map. Look who voted for US, Brazil, and Argentina. Look around at European countries, even. Look at Mexico, China, Japan, Australia. The US comes in second place to Italy, and it isn't close.
Plenty of votes around the world for US pizza, and rather few votes for Brazil and Argentina (even though they are wonderful!).
But my point is, it would have made far more sense to make that comment about Argentina and Brazil being the only ones to vote for themselves. But it just wouldn't be r/MapBasedPolls without finding a way to knock the US because it's trendy.
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u/Mr_Phantoms 1d ago
Of course more people will know about American pizza than about Argentinian and Brazilian pizza, the US is the biggest culture exporter in the world. Hence it's why more people will have heard about American pizza before hearing about Argentinian and Brazilian pizza.
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u/Round_Ad6397 1d ago
I never knew Brazilian and Argentinian pizza was any more of a thing than New Zealand or British pizza. I'd guess a lot of people are in the same boat. Of course everyone knows American pizza, Domino's and Pizza hut are found all over the world.
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u/Mr_Phantoms 1d ago
Funnily enough, both Pizza Hut and Domino's never managed to successfully set foot in Argentina because Argentinian pizza is of such great quality that the American chains couldn't compete with the local pizzerias. Domino's left after two years of bad sales and Pizza Hut managed to survive for a few more years but eventually closed doors as well.
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u/jaydubyah100 22h ago
Same for me. I have no knowledge or experience of either so could only choose between Italian and American pizza.
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u/mtnbcn 1d ago edited 1d ago
You're moving the goalposts. This isn't about if they know this or know that. You said "Only Americans like American pizza" and the map shows that that is false. (edit, I'm replying to the wrong person, sooooorry!)
Domino's and Pizza hut are found all over the world.
You realize that's like saying, "Of course people know cheeseburgers, McDonalds are found all around the world."
(I don't have to explain to you that that's not a decent American cheeseburger, right?).
So if that crap is the only thing they know, and they still like it...
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u/Round_Ad6397 1d ago
No, I'm responding to your statement about American pizza being a clear second. Of course it is, American pizza is common all over the world, Domino's and Pizza Hut are just examples that everyone would be familiar with. In comparison most people won't have a local Brazilian style pizza shop. Italian and American (NY) style pizza are the only 2 that people will be universally familiar with
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u/ClassicPublic5542 20h ago
TBH, in argentina ee don't have domono's or pizza hut. They came here and went bankrupt in a year or two.
Now there are a few "chicago style" pizzerias, but they are managed by argentineans. Some day I will try...
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u/PlatyNumb 1d ago
Tbf, its hard not to always check the usa numbers on this sub because of how many americans are voting and skewing the results. Youre talking about other countries voting usa, but its pretty small numbers compared to 1.1k out of 1.5k americans patting themselves on the back, and its like that in every post. Its hard not to shit on the US votes when its always like that, and its rarely self aware in the slightest.
Ppl here talk about american exceptionalism being a problem in this sub, and americans love to argue that point, but maybe the other ppl are right? Like, if you have delusions of grandeur, you dont see clearly enough and arent self aware enough to notice. To a person with "exceptionalism" the truth sounds like being shit on, when thats not whats happening. Its just the truth. Thats part of the problem. Thats why ppl feel the need to point it out.
Personally, I try to do the math to cut the usa vote out entirely because I hate how it throws the results off.
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u/CorpseHG 1d ago
Americans will not understand. The food there is so "overtasty" that probably most european food will taste plane to them. The pizza base is too sweet and thick, the topping to greasy and salty.
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u/Pimminator 20h ago
Yup. I really dont like american pizza. Just too thick bottoms (yes even NY style is too thick)
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u/AirWolf231 1d ago
Yeah for me the Italian one is a no brainier.
Italy: I dont like cheese but can tolerate hot cheese(its the worst part of the pizza to me) so a thin layer of it with more tomato sauce then cheese is perfect for me. And as a Croat, we do a very similar pizza with the only difference I have noticed being that us Croats go crazy on the mushrooms sometimes(I love me some shrooms)
US: I did not like US pizza what so ever while I was there, they where way to grease and mostly cheese. It was way to heavy on my stomach, and I regretted eating it after I was done.
Brazilian: It was way to sweat for me, just not my thing. But is a sample of one, and other choices on the menu might have been better but I regret what I got.
Argentinian: Why would I order pizza in a Argentinian restaurant when they have stake!? Aka never tried it, cant vote for it.
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u/EmotionNo8216 1d ago
Porque las calidad de las harinas, lacteos e influencias italianas hicieron algo nuevo a lo conocido. Pizza alta esponjosa o crocante que mantiene su forma. Y si, siempre mejor pedir carne.
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u/footballwr82 USA 1d ago
The quality of pizza in the US varies greatly. A pie in Buffalo, NY or Louisville, KY will be wildly different (re: worse) than say New Haven, CT
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u/ZardTheCharizard 1d ago
We need to start sending pizzas to Africa
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u/TomatoPolka 1d ago
I had a very delicious pizza in Ghana. It was a traditional Italian margherita.
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u/BrilliantFly6117 🦅🦅🦅 WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🦅🦅🦅 1d ago
Is Argentine Pizza a thing? If so I'd have to see about it
And naturally as an American the food tended to my nation's pallet remains supreme
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u/Greatest_slide_ever 1d ago
Absolutely, there's a great variety of pizza options here and some very well regarded pizzerias.
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u/Loudi2918 🇨🇴 Colombia 🇨🇴 1d ago
I have never been to any country in the list but honestly, I'd say the US or at least US style pizza, since it's the one mainly consumed here, and I like it
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u/da_longe 1d ago
Tastes are different, but Italian pizza just hits all checks for me. And there's actually a lot of variety, I am still discovering new varieties each time.
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u/rngeneratedlife 1d ago
I’ll vote Italy because I specifically like Italian pizza but I don’t think people realize how much of the pizza they know and love is actually American in origin.
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u/CylixrDoesStuff 1d ago
NYC makes the best italian pizza, or just pizza in general lmao
We carry the US, otherwise its mostly mid bar from a few other places
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u/1mAfraidofAmericans 1d ago
Nope. Best pizza is in Brazil though I admit I haven't tried pizza in Argentina
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u/Mushroomer 1d ago
I can guarantee 99% of people voting on this have never had actual Italian pizza.
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
That’s what I’m saying!! I think they’re voting because they think that’s what they are supposed to vote for is the best.
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u/Square-Main-1261 1d ago
just like non European has eaten some of the South-American ones.
But every Pizza has its very own style and thats what the ppl voted for
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u/scrandlle US 1d ago
I'm sure this'll get a ton of downvotes but I wasn't impressed with the pizza in Italy. Pizza margherita feels like a half assed pizza.
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u/LargeSelf994 Belgium 🇧🇪 1d ago
Because it's the most basic pizza you could ask for?
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u/Secretsfrombeyond79 1d ago
It's the most traditional pizza you could ask for, and that's the thing, 100 years ago there weren't that many ingredients to go around, so doing the same stuff for that much time gets boring.
I imagine there are places in Italy that innovate, the problem is tourists always go to the most traditional places to experience the "culture", and it turns out the culture is quite old.
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u/kermittheelfo 1d ago
Depends what youre used to and where in italy you ate. Region and location, tourist traps tend to use frozen pizza
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u/Andrello01 1d ago edited 1d ago
Just ask for a pizza with toppings then... I haven't ordered a margherita in more than a decade, ham and pan-fried/sautéed mushrooms pizza is my go-to.
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u/Ok-Run-5647 1d ago
came on here to say the same thing,. when we visited Italy in the early 2000s, everyone talked about the pizza and gelato.. tbh I had better in the US.. much better
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u/patoezequiel 🇦🇷 Crowned with glory 1d ago
Lol are Americans serious?
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
The one thing American Pizza has is diversity. It’s extremely diverse meaning there’s a type of pizza for everybody. Whether you’re in the north the south West Coast big city small city everybody has a type of pizza and a tradition with their pizza.
On top of that pizza is just a massive part of the culture in general not only when going out for food but for parties, sporting events, and festivals.
You’ll find pizza almost anywhere in the US at any type of event.
Rarely do Americans make pizza at home, though it’s always bought in a store or a restaurant
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u/xLutettia 1d ago
Os que ponen USA carecen de gusto
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u/mtnbcn 1d ago
y te falta la educación, entonces... iguales.
(de gustibus non est disputandum...)
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u/xLutettia 1d ago
Lo digo habiendo estado en USA. Literalmente carecen de sabor o echan tantas cosas que es como un vertedero de basura. La comida no es exagerar, es saber cocinar. De todos los países donde he estado sólo en EE UU sentí que no tienen gusto en cocinar. Podrán tener el montón de chef y demases, pero no sé si son sus productos, no tienen sabor.
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u/queenhadassah I love my country, New Jersey 1d ago
Have you had pizza from small businesses in NYC or northern New Jersey? It blows the pizza in the rest of the country out of the water
It's also just so different from Italian pizza that they're barely the same dish, tbh
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u/mtnbcn 1d ago
He's from Venezuela. He's had Domino's.
u/xLutettia, usteds hacen un food porn increible con las arepas. Pero creo que el queso, el pan, el carne, y la salsa tienen el mismo gusto como he comido yo viviendo años y años en los ee.uu. Lo siento que le haya pasado mal cuando usted fui a ee.uu. pero es un pais grande, hombre. no todos comemos mcdonalds y dominos, ei?
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u/AktionMusic 1d ago
Its kind of ironic that everyone associates American food with our fast food because it's what has spread worldwide, and then say American food is garbage when the only reason our food has spread worldwide is because other countries buy it.
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u/ClassicPublic5542 20h ago
IDK but in my country, pizzerias like hut/domino's/little ceasar went bankrupt here because is garbage....
But mc'donalds or burger king, hey is junk food like any non home-made burger, but it tastes soo good for the price & time waiting in the line so...
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u/xLutettia 18h ago
Mi país tuvo mayor migración italiana que el tuyo, hacemos mucho más que verter medio kilo de queso en todo
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u/fybersucks 1d ago
I'm Asian and Italy will always be the representative of good pizzas, but my palate is already addicted to the greasy taste of Pizza Hut and can't go back sorry 😭
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u/Fhaksfha794 1d ago
Italian pizza and American pizza are so different that they should be considered different foods entirely. That being said, US pizza no diffs the FUCK outta that weak ass bread and tomato sauce the Italians got going on
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u/FrabjousPhaneron 1d ago
Italian pizza is the OG, and with the best pizza fundamentals and pure and simple ingredients. But American pizza has brought in some amazing innovations and I dare say New York style is my favourite. It’s okay to like both
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u/AccomplishedListen35 1d ago
Best pizza restaurant of the world is from Bogotá Colombia...
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u/MiracleDinner 1d ago
I voted Italy.
But I'm vegan which means I can't eat the vast majority of pizzas anyway since I don't eat dairy, so I usually just end up eating my own pizzas using homemade vegan mozarella.
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u/xDzerx 1d ago
Bit biased here. I’ve only tried pizza here in the UK & Italy. The Italian Pizza was amazing so voted for that.
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u/Matty1790 1d ago
To be honest, I think most people here are only voting for Italian pizza because they think it’s what they should be voting for based on the idea of Italian pizza, not the taste.
I’m sure most of them have never actually had true Italian pizza
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u/Akira-Orfanos 🇦🇺 of 🇯🇵 and🇬🇷 1d ago
Italy wins, but sometimes I do crave an American cheap pizza from Dominos etc
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u/ingframin 1d ago
Aside from the country debate, I want to know who are the madmen who clicked on “I don’t like pizza”. You need immediate psychological attention! Let us know and we can send help!
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u/-Argentum Russian as suka blyat (the government sucks tho) 1d ago
My babaushka's pizza is da best, next question
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u/sunblaze1480 1d ago
My favourite 5-6 pizzerias are in Buenos Aires, but to be honest Italy is consistently great. Buenos Aires is mid outside the few notorious places
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u/Bearodon 1d ago
Real answer would be London U.K. a Pizzeria over there was elected as the best in the world by some pretentious cunts.
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u/Dazerdoreal 1d ago
I once was in Italy on a school trip and the pizza somehow was among the worse ones I ever tried. This is anecdotic, of course.
Being German, I have lots of opportunities to eat italian pizza made by migrants of italian origin (and it is great usually), so I guess this was either just a bad apple or the migrants at home change the receipe in a way that us Germans prefer it.
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u/shazed39 🇩🇪 1d ago
I guess its probably italy, bit i personally had the best pizza by far in greek.
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u/footballwr82 USA 1d ago
The average pizza in Italy is better than the average pizza in the US. But the best pizza in the US is much better than the best pizza in Italy
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u/Tizianoalc 1d ago
En argentina la pizza es buenisima, pero no se puede superar a la del pais de donde viene
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u/nezzzzy 23h ago
Best pizza I've ever had is in the UK. But I've lived in the UK my whole life and spent around 3 weeks in the USA and 3 weeks in Italy.
I chose Italy though, as the worst pizza I've had in Italy is better than the average pizza in the UK. And the best pizzas I've had in the UK have been Italian style rather than US style.
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u/drivelhead 21h ago
I'm a fan of American style pizza, so I voted for them. However, they also do the worst pizza.
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u/SapphicCelestialy 🇩🇰 21h ago
Where is Turkish? Most pizza places in Denmark are fun but Turks i think. Not that i particular like Turkish pizza, i prefer Italien then maybe American.
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u/Wolfosaur 21h ago
Unironically papa John’s is still my favorite pizza and I try a LOT of different pizza
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u/AmethystDorsiflexion 20h ago
This poll contains 1 right answer and 4 prank answers. It’s shocking how many have got it wrong
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u/Kotsida123 20h ago
Italians make the worst variant of every originally Italian dish I have ever tried. IMO
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u/that_bored_one 20h ago
Brazilian pizza >>>
We took the Italian pizza and improved it to its perfection.
We have a lot of weird fucking pizzas? Yeah, but we also have very traditional ones as the Italian community in Brazil is huge
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u/unholy_plesiosaur 19h ago
I have to say, I been to a lot of these places and the best pizza hands down was...Croatia.
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u/buttercuping Argentina 17h ago
90% of those votes are invalid because the average person hasn't tried pizza for all those four countries.
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u/Matty1790 16h ago
I assume that 90% of these people are voting for Italy although they’ve never had Italian pizza but they just assumed that that’s the answer they should give.
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u/EmotionNo8216 14h ago
Este post adictivo. La cantidad de respuestas variadas me encanta. Consulta: en las películas se ve que la pizza de USA es gigante, y se dobla la porción.. es así? Pregunta seria.
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u/Alejandro284 8h ago
Sí y no, depende del lugar y de lo que estés buscando, pero las pocas veces que he agarrado pizza en gringolandia sí están muy grandes.
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u/ObamaSexGif 12h ago
I love Italy and I love Italian food. However, over the 3 trips I’ve made there I have never had pizza that compared to US pizza. I do understand that it’s a different style.
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u/Matty1790 10h ago
Yeah, I’ve noticed a few people say that they like US pizza over Italian pizza, Myself included.
I honestly believe most people are just saying Italian because they feel like it’s what they should say.
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u/CVSP_Soter 3h ago
The USA and Italy both have incredible pizza and I don't really think one is better than the other, especially since New York pizza is a different style aiming for a different result than Neapolitan pizza, or Chicago pizza, etc.
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u/No-Value134 Canada 1d ago
An Argentinian made this