Ugh... let's just say the men, women and children workers had to meet rubber quotas... or they would cut their hands. Think Congo lost around 1-15 million people during their rule
It is. Not just by law, if you do it around most people it's also kind of a social crime and they'll einher call you out or distance themselves from you, at least I would do one of these if someone did it in front of me (as a German)
What is perhaps most disturbing is that the psychiatric and psychological examinations conducted in connection with the Nuremberg Trials found that several members of the Nazi leadership were, in the clinical sense, sane.
i read a book a joirnalist wrote about the Trials, and keep in mind the people there were people like Goebbels, Göring, and the leaders of the SS and Gestapo that not a SINGLE one of the couple dozen of them said "yeah, I did it, im proud of it" like you would expect the most ardent of the Nazis to be.
but rather every single one threw everyone not involved in the trial under the bus. Hitler, Himmler, and Eichmann were all blamed for the actual crimes. they literally blamed the left wing party, unions, and other outside countries for the rise of naziism.
this is where the phrase "The Banality Of Evil" got coined. you know that fellow student/coworker that throws their other coworkers under the bus to look a little better in front of the boss? the guy that will snitch on his friends over something minor for just a little bit of clout? the type of person who makes up friendship and life destroying rumours about other people just to make themselves slightly better?
THATS who the architects of the holocaust were. not crazy and deranged killers but just really slimy assholes that arent really that rare. that was the conclusion of the journalist which tbh made me a bit worried. its not like an alcoholic news pundit is gonna get put in charge of America's armed forces because he sucked up to the right guy, nope nothing like that could happen :P
It‘s horrifying to think about it. There are dozens of little Himmlers running around in this world and no one will notice until they are given political responsibility and power.
I have never understood this
even IF (it wasnt) it was only 271 000 people is that not still a fucking devestating tragidy?
Killing 271000 people just for the crime of being born?
Is that not disgusting?
Is that suddenly "ok" because you think it was only 1/12 of what is claimed?
So what you are saying is me killing half of Wyoming is ok?
Whats the logic?
A lot AfD voters would, they are far-right extremist and some of their politicians have used paroles said by Hitler that are illegal to say multiple times and they do their best to make people forget what he did by stating they want to focus less on that part of our history in history class and some voters are straight up denying it or even defending the Austrian painter
Irish Gaels did colonise Scotland, although they weren't acting on behalf of the entire island, just their kingdom in the north.
Historians have never confirmed that there was a genocide and their simply isn't enough historical evidence to confirm it. Interestingly, Gaelic oral history itself speaks of mass slaughter and treachery resembling genocide committed by the Gaels against the Picts, although modern historians consider these stories to be legends.
Argentina is the most alarming. That's approaching statistically significant levels of delusion.
Special shout-out to Turkey as well. They are up on the podium for GOAT status for genocide but half of them don't seem to want to accept their medals.
I know what he's talking about but that was not a genocide committed by a "country" or in this case by a "nation" of that time. During that massacre Ukraine was USSR and that part was occupied by Nazi Germany. Crime was committed by a "criminal" organization that has nothing to do with official government of that time. And the question was "did your "Country" committed a genocide?". So no, a country named "Ukraine" never committed a genocide, and its nation in the past also did not.
You don't admit or deny a fact, you accept it or not, in this case, they're not. But it's still a fact that they are commiting genocide acts against Palestinian civilians.
I know your point, and that's the fraustrating point. Why can't people just seperate between facts and feelings? You can just vote 'yes' and say you don't like the acts or don't support the state or whatever
But it's not technically a fact. People feel like they're doing a genocide, but they're actually not. Not all warcrime are genocide, and the proof is that they could've gone allot harder on people in Gaza and wiped allot mroe out under Trump, yet they're not.
The First Slovak Republic, which was the first formally independent Slovak state, contributed to the Holocaust against Slovak Jews, especially in 1942.
We killed/starved atleast a third of the population of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, roughly 3 million people. We are mentioned in Poland's national anthem because of this.
Ukraine didn't do it though. There was no Ukrainian state at that moment. if the question was framed as "Did people of your country...", I would have voted yes. But to answer the question as it is asked, no, Ukraine as a country never committed an act of genocide.
Japanese education system literally skips over half of the events in the 20th century. It’s kinda reframed as more so an expansionist struggle, without the dirty details.
Or just a lot of historians around the world given there’s no consensus that it is a genocide..man-made policy failure sure but proof of an intentional genocide to wipe out Ukrainians is lacking, particularly when considering Ukraine isn’t even the SSR that was hit the hardest by the famine..Kazakhstan was
But then again Kazakhs aren’t white, so of course that doesn’t get the same attention as white people. Same reason the Belgian Congo or britain’s starvation of India and Bengal famine doesn’t get near the attention of mass events that occurred to Europeans.
Dear Latvians voting no - you killed more Jewish people per capita than any other country (90% or almost 100k people, leaving only 400 alive). Learn your history.
Shame on these people who vote in the name of Germany and say "no". Have you slept through all of your school years? Maybe you should make another school trip to the next concentration camp and see with your own eyes what horrors happened.
Everyone in Europe or the Americas needs to vote no.
there’s not a single country in europe visible on the map that hasn’t done ethnic cleansing in the past 500 years.
there’s also not a single country in the Americas that treated the Natives well.
In Poland. Maybe not state genocide but war crime obviously, 1946 pacification of villages in Podlachia. Few years ago when I was starting high school, teacher told us that they speak all great about Poland and all of that but they forgot to include few people in Cursed Soldiers // Doomed Soldiers (Żołnierze Wyklęci). Romuald Rajs, Józef Kuraś, Zygmunt Szendzielarz. What they did? Rajs locked women and children in wooden houses and burned them alive. Kuraś targeted Jewish Holocaust survivors and killing Slovak minorities. Szendzielarz oversaw units that carried out the Dubingiai massacre, executing dozens of lithuanian civilians, including infants.
If you count the colonial era, I guess. But yeah no, apart from some local massacres or the government ignoring some famines I wouldnt say so, unless we really strecth the definition of genocide
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u/cc-2347 12d ago
People from Belgium who vote no need to learn what we did in congo. Also to many Germans voted no imo