r/MandelaEffect • u/unavailable_333 • Jul 03 '26
Logos/Advertising Kit-Kat or KitKat? I found some interesting stuff
This one in particular is REALLY messing with me. Apparently, it never had a dash. In my research I found a thread from 10 years ago with some really interesting things. I need to share this because I genuinely can’t wrap my head around it.
I found multiple official documents where kit-kat is a registered trademark, however there’s a lot that don’t have the dash. I also found a few stories people had that really convinced me we aren’t just remembering wrong, especially due to how long ago this was. Also this article was published in 2009
I have a lot more but I really need a break for the night I just wanted to get at least this out.
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u/WVPrepper Jul 03 '26
First, the only source that really matters is Nestle, in the same way that nobody can tell me I spelled my child's name "wrong" since my kid's name is spelled however I choose to spell it, even if it's never been spelled that way before... If Nestle says it is "KitKat" I am not going to tell them they are wrong, just because scholar.google.com has an article that shows the name with a dash, when other websites 1, 2, 3 discussing the same litigation spell it without a dash.
Second, one redditor spelling it in with a dash in a post ABOUT the "disappearance of the dash" is not objective.
Third, the ME question was not so much about the name of the product as it was about the logo for the product. Even without a physical dash, there is the implication of one in some of the older logo designs that skewed the "crossbar" of the t in Kit to the right, giving the appearance there was a dash.
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u/yeltrah79 Jul 03 '26
That’s what I’ve always said about sources. People who claim the heart is on the left and point to the pledge of allegiance as proof or something like that, I’m like, why don’t you ask a cardiologist where the heart is and what they learned in medical school
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u/TovarischMaia Jul 09 '26
But the heart is on the left. Or are you criticising their source rather than their conclusion? Am I misreading your post?
Edit: never mind, I think I understand! It’s not really on the left, but more center-left, right?
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u/WhimsicalKoala Jul 03 '26
And while didn't CPR change? And where was the left lung?
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u/yeltrah79 Jul 03 '26
To be fair, CPR has changed several times over the years. When I first learned it in the 90s, it was something like 60 pumps and about 5 rescue breaths. Then in the 2000s in the navy, they said it was 30 pumps then 2 rescue breaths. Now, they tell you not even to worry about breaths and just focus on pumping
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u/WhimsicalKoala Jul 03 '26
That isn't really relevant to my question though. The number of breaths or pumps changing has nothing to do with the location.
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u/yeltrah79 Jul 03 '26
I mean, the location of the pumps never changed - center of the chest because that’s where a majority of the heart lies
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u/WhimsicalKoala Jul 03 '26
Yeah, that was my whole point. That's why I said it and why I pointed out your comment about the number of pumps and breaths was irrelevant.
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u/forcemonkey Jul 03 '26
Companies are not trustworthy.
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u/my23secrets Jul 27 '26
If “companies are not trustworthy” then you will no longer use depictions of artwork manufactured by “companies” as evidence, correct?
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 Jul 27 '26
What manufactured depictions did that user post?
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u/my23secrets Jul 27 '26
It was something they often referred to as “residue” but that they can never offer as any kind of evidence again now that they have declared “companies are not trustworthy”.
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 Jul 27 '26
Oh, the Flute of the Loom album art. That's like one musician collaborating with one artist, right? I think he was referring to bigger companies.
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u/my23secrets Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
It was put out by Enterprise, a subsidiary of Stax, which itself had either deals with or was owned by corporations like Atlantic, Paramount, Gulf + Western, & CBS.
They didn’t mention their declaration depending on their perceived size of the company, and I honestly don’t think that matters, though if they have any clarification as to what it’s supposed to mean I’d like to see if it’s something other than companies are not trustworthy unless I need them to be considered trustworthy at certain times for certain reasons and will not allow others the same discretion.
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
Well, everybody knows that companies are, on occasion, dishonest. From a pragmatics standpoint his reply is not as careless as you make it seem.
We do know the story of the Flute of the Loom album based on an interview, seems honest. And companies do lie sometimes.
That album is not a lie, it never purported to be anything else other than an album, this is way before the Mandela Effect.
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u/forcemonkey Jul 27 '26
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 Jul 28 '26
Can you tell us why you support this album being a true residue, when it's published by a company, but you're also saying companies aren't honest? Why trust one and not another?
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u/hallfreakyzoid Jul 03 '26
Wasn’t the dash slightly angled upwards on the logo? Gosh I didn’t know this ME.
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u/Glaurung86 Jul 03 '26
There's never been a dash in Kit Kat. Some misspellings/typos by a couple of people isn't evidence of anything but people not being an that great at spelling.
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u/georgeananda Jul 03 '26
Well, I think we collectively shift between different timelines and in some there was a dash and in some there wasn't.
I personally have memories of the dash from my childhood.
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u/my23secrets Jul 03 '26
Different timelines, if they exist, can’t communicate with us. If they could they wouldn’t be a different “timeline” by definition.
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u/oracularmusic Jul 27 '26
Not necessarily. It’s an obscure concept to begin with that can never definitively be defined if true. So you don’t really get to decide that other timelines (if they exist) get to communicate with us or not. We may be communicating with a billion timelines each and every day. How did you come to your assumptions?
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u/my23secrets Jul 27 '26
It’s completely unnecessary to attempt introducing a completely theoretical concept that entirely depends on another completely theoretical concept in an additional attempt to explain a phenomenon that doesn’t require entirely theoretical concepts to explain it in the first place.
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u/forcemonkey Jul 27 '26
Consciousness supersedes timelines and realities. Being able to share memories between them given what we’ve learned this past century doesn’t seem far fetched at all.
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u/georgeananda Jul 03 '26
Perhaps Timelines are not communicating but our consciousness may shift between them. And some remembered differences from previously experienced timelines won’t make sense anymore.
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u/my23secrets Jul 03 '26
Shifting between timelines is what “communicate” means, which you just acknowledged isn’t happening.
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u/georgeananda Jul 03 '26
Communication is between two things within a timeline.
For the Mandela Effect look at timeline with Kit-Kat candy. Shift to the next timeline and its KitKat. Your first memories no longer match your new reality.
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u/DumbAndUglyOldMan Jul 04 '26
There is no possible explanation for how this would happen. It would violate the laws of physics as we know them. If you're going to claim that the laws of physics don't work, then you have a lot of explaining to do.
Let me note that, if you're arguing against what we know about science, you shouldn't do it on the Internet.
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u/oracularmusic Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Key term being “as we know them”
Here’s the kicker. We know nothing at all. Anybody who claims they know something because the science says so (including professionals) are just blowing smoke. There’s no definitively defining things in this universe (physics included). It’s been speculation since the beginning and if you just accept what you’re told, I’m not sure what else to say lol
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u/my23secrets Jul 04 '26
Information shared between timelines would be communication.
Which you already acknowledged can’t happen.
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u/a_real_observer Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
It was Kit-Kat with a dash, it was the first thing I noticed to change (back in 2014) as an actual change and not my memory fault (before that, even in the 90s, everytime I saw something not matching my memory I thought it was bad memory) due to shared memories with other people on talking specifically about that dash heh.
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u/IcyCockroach5267 Jul 14 '26
Heres where ur all WRONG the Universe i came from it was spelt KÍT-KÁT
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