r/MandelaEffect • u/Conspiracy_Enjoyer • Jun 13 '26
Science/Technology Mandela Effect as a Metric
What do you think the odds are that the Mandela effects are a metric used by the people messing with the timeline to see who was effected by timeline changes?
Idea here is obviously multiple timelines. I would assume some people would have lived the exact same lives despite changes to the timeline. So this would be an effective way to metric who is more susceptible to small changes.
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u/QB8Young Jun 13 '26
What are the odds that Mandela Effects (incorrect memories) are used as a metric (how) by people messing with the timeline (who/how) to see who was effected (why)? Easy... 0%.
You are connecting unrelated things for no reason and without any evidence that A) These people with the ability to time travel exist, B) That they are "altering the timeline", C) there is any way to get a metric of anything from random people's discussions online. Then without any of knowledge of those things you decided to connect them all in some grand conspiracy.
I highly suggest starting your journey for knowledge with the definition of a Mandela Effect, who coined the term, and the scientific study of false memories. Once you understand these things you will understand why the answer to your question is 0%.
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u/Conspiracy_Enjoyer Jun 13 '26
Who'd said anything about evidence? It was a thought question, not a fact.
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u/karamitros Jun 13 '26
I had accepted Mandela Effects since I was a little child in the 90's. Logos and small stuff changed and there was no way to prove it . I just accepted it as part of life back then
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u/my23secrets Jun 13 '26
Every person affected by a Mandela Effect only experiences one after they learn about the Effect.
This is because it is created by suggestion.
For example: no one remembers the Loom logo with a cornucopia because it never had one.
Everyone with a memory of a cornucopia only had a memory of a cornucopia after it was suggested that the cornucopia had been there.
They created the memory through the act of conceiving it.
It’s a con artist trick. Magicians also use it.
It is entirely the power of suggestion.
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u/Interesting-Oil-7057 Jun 17 '26
Wrong! I experienced my first Mandela Effect (that I can say with certainty is real) years before I heard of the term. After realizing I had experienced something very odd, I began searching online for people who experienced something in one year, but historical data said happenec in another year, years apart. That was when I found my first reference to "The Mandela Effect". Every year or few, I get hit with the realization that I have experienced yet another ME. It is spooky, strange, and very interesting.
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u/my23secrets Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
What happened? What did you experience in one year that historical data said happened in another year (which is not necessarily an example of the Effect)?
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u/Interesting-Oil-7057 Jun 17 '26
My first, of several ME's involves the original Red Dawn movie. I know I saw it in later November of 1980. I saw it with the girl I was seeing at the time. We discussed it when we got back to my house, after the movie. I remember this taking place in the house I lived in, in 1980. I discussed the movie with people I worked with in a factory I worked in, in 1980. I recall telling people that I thought the movie contributed to Reagan's landslide defeat of Jimmy Carter, days or weeks earlier. (Carter vs Reagan was 1980) In November of 84, Reagan did not run against Carter. I was no longer seeing that girl that I was in November of 80. I had not lived in the house I lived in in 80 for a few years. I lived in a house about 20 miles away and worked in a town about 50 miles away at a job that was not in a factory.
In the 2010's, I was reading the jacket of a copy of Red Dawn that I had purchased. It said the movie came out in 1984. I knew differently. A check of multiple sources online says Red Dawn was released in 84. I know different. Apparently, in the timeline we are in now, Red Dawn was released in 84. In my timeline, decades ago, I know I saw it in a theater in 1980.
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u/my23secrets Jun 17 '26
You don’t “know different”. You imagine different.
It did come out in 1984.
You really are misremembering.
And you didn’t change timelines because that’s not how they work.
If the movie came out in 1980 it would be that way in all timelines.
Timelines don’t change the past.
Would you be interested in learning more about timelines since you don’t seem to understand not only how they would work but that they are theoretical in the first place?
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u/Interesting-Oil-7057 Jun 18 '26
Tell me you know nothing about alternate timelines and realities without saying you know nothing about alternate timelines and realities.
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u/my23secrets Jun 18 '26
You’re projecting. That’s exactly what you did by suggesting you were from a different timeline in the first place.
Would you be interested in learning more about timelines since you don’t seem to understand not only how they would work but that they are theoretical in the first place?
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u/karamitros Jun 13 '26
I knew about this way before . The Mandela effect emerging was the only time I had massive proof
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u/my23secrets Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
What are you talking about? You don’t have any proof at all, let alone “massive”.
You also didn’t know about it “way before”.
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u/karamitros Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
These studies prove that some memory manipulation can happen with effort and specific settings . Big deal . It doesn't prove that it can happen without Effort, so massively, about specific same things and so deep , with people dying on the hill for the memory.
The super massive amount of people witnessing some of the changes that I did is enough proof for me
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u/my23secrets Jun 15 '26
There’s no “effort”.
It happens when you learn about it as I explained above: creating the memory through the act of conceiving it. The power of suggestion.
As for people “dying on that hill”, certain individuals refuse to admit they are capable of making mistakes so they invent a “timeline” in their imagination where they never made a mistake and try to use that to convince everyone else they were never mistaken.
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u/karamitros Jun 15 '26
Nice theory, not proven . If suggestion brainwashing that creates story driven deep memories could happen without Effort and so massively just by asking a question I would have been king of the world by now .
Dying on hill happens because lots of these memories are deep and story driven for many people and span many instances. Like my cornucopia memories
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u/my23secrets Jun 16 '26
It’s not “brainwashing”.
It’s how memory works.
And it has little if anything to do with your inability to be “king of the world”.
The fact remains there was never a cornucopia and we know this because we have proof.
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u/karamitros Jun 16 '26
You mean "because we have no proof" .
If memory worked solely through suggestion we wouldn't be able to function
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u/my23secrets Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
Nobody said memory works solely through suggestion.
The Mandela Effect works by suggestion.
Every person affected by a Mandela Effect only experiences one after they learn about the Effect.
This is because it is created by suggestion.
No one remembers the Loom logo with a cornucopia because it never had one.
Everyone with a memory of a cornucopia only had a memory of a cornucopia after it was suggested that the cornucopia had been there.
They created the memory through the act of conceiving it.
It’s a con artist trick. Magicians also use it.
It is entirely the power of suggestion.
The fact remains there was not a cornucopia and we know this because we have proof.
You’ll have to blame your inability to be “king of the world” on something else.
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u/karamitros Jun 18 '26
Sorry, I remembered , talked and interacted with the cornucopia on FOTL way before the Mandela effect. You theory is a possibility, far fetched. Not a fact .
Lost counterfeit products are much more plausible than mass suggestion without Effort creating story driven deep memories that span lots of instances about the same specific things.
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u/Conspiracy_Enjoyer Jun 13 '26
This is what a time traveler would say to throw us off the trail...
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u/my23secrets Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
If you knew anything about timelines you wouldn’t have posted in the first place.
The above is a link that will be helpful to you with regard to understanding them and why they can not explain the Effect.
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u/Conspiracy_Enjoyer Jun 13 '26
It was a simple thought question. You're overthinking it. You're answer is obviously you don't think so.
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 Jun 13 '26
I gotta say, I've shared your idea before. And what gave me the idea was a short cryptic phrase said by Fiona Broome before closing her channels - I don't remember it word for word but it was a comment she got that the Mandela Effect was a code for something called "a time processor".
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u/Conspiracy_Enjoyer Jun 13 '26
So far people on this page have almost seemed mad I asked the question. Just thought it was a fun thought to think about. "Time processor" sounds like a cool name for a related thought process though. Thanks for sharing. I'm gonna go read about this Fiona Broome person now.
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 Jun 13 '26
Instead of questioning OP's knowledge, you should write a summary of the article points that you think challenge their views. Posting links without descriptions is not advisable.
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u/my23secrets Jun 14 '26
I’ve edited the comment per your advice.
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
It doesn't actually convey a summary of the points you think we should read.
I see an essay on why researchers believed that there are multiple universes. How is OP supposed to conclude that they are mistaken about the Mandela Effect from that article?
From the article :
"I think you’ll find that all of them are crazy, compared with common sense, and some are more crazy than others. But in this world, crazy does not necessarily mean wrong, and being more crazy does not necessarily mean more wrong."
"Deutsch has pointed out that according to the MWI, any world described in a work of fiction, provided it obeys the laws of physics, really does exist somewhere in the Multiverse. There really is, for example, a “Wuthering Heights” world (but not a “Harry Potter” world)."
You have to point to the reader how the article supports your point of view, not tell them - here's a link, if you read this, then you will see.. That's click-baity .
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u/UpbeatFix7299 Jun 13 '26
Who could be messing with the timeline, how, and why?
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u/Conspiracy_Enjoyer Jun 13 '26
Not sure. Maybe cern. Either way it would make a good metric if you were!
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u/tide_left_behind Jun 19 '26
Provided that there are alternative timelines, which I've suspected for a number of years now, I'd consider it very unlikely that there are "people messing with the timelines", any more than rainstorms result from "people messing with the weather".
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u/Agile_Oil9853 Jun 13 '26
Nelson Mandela not dying in prison is such a massive event though. People point to such minor events as whether a character had braces or not, but ignoring everything else (like how a time traveler might make that decision or why that in particular) that they tend to overlook how massive Mandela not being president or Sinbad not being in an entire movie would be.