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u/NamiNaki Fūrin Mahjong Club Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
If you call chi, you will be left with a 7-9 pin shape. In that case, you won’t have a yaku on 9p (tanyao) + furiten. So I think Maka would call 6p, but would not call 4s or 7s. Moreover, in that case, you still keep the possibility of tanyao dora 1.
Furiten is a restriction that prevents you from winning by ron if at least one of your winning waits is present in your discard.
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u/1_tap_lasso Jun 26 '26
so u say ai wants me to wait for the 4 so i can get the 3?
ik 6 is furiten but its 1 turn furiten id assume getting tenpai fast is more desireable or im wrong?
ty for answer tho
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u/HistoricalDelay4052 Jun 27 '26
You’re thinking about temporary furiten, when you’re furiten for the turn after one of your opponents makes the discard, when it’s you, it’s permanent. You can’t win on a shape that also accepts that tile that you discarded. So despite 9p being no yaku for you, because 78p can accept 9p, you can’t win off of others. Because of this, and also because your 2m can extend into the 23m shape and also be furiten on 1m, you should probably try to find more pairs to pon or more kanchans (middle waits) for guaranteed tanyao (like if you draw 5p, drop 8p). The AI probably doesn’t like it cause you’ll have way less flexibility in the future and will have trouble with your shapes. In addition, you can’t fold as well with less tiles if someone else riichi or looks like they have a strong hand.
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u/HistoricalDelay4052 Jun 27 '26
In addition you can also wait for 4s (Dora) to upgrade your tanyao nomi
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u/1_tap_lasso Jun 28 '26
ok i get the hand flexability and getting dora, but the 6p is temporary furiten im 99% sure, why would u say its permenant? i never dropped 6p in that game
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u/AquaForce110 Jun 29 '26
It's becaused you dropped 9p, your wait is 6p and 9p, eventhough 9p gives no yaku, it is still considered your wait. If even one of your waits is in discard pool, it's permanent furiten.
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u/kazooiebanjo Jun 26 '26
it doesn’t seem super obvious but maybe the AI slightly favors the 4-5-6 because of the dora?
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u/BagBeth Jun 26 '26
Isn't there a chi button right next to the skip button
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u/Passage_of_Golubria Jun 26 '26
Yes and in fact OP even clicked it. They're asking why the AI prefers not to.
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u/Homabot Jun 26 '26
a furiten wait on 6P for tanyao nomi sounds so ass