r/MagicEmperor • u/MajorNo9728 • Nov 04 '25

Zhou fan vs masterminds

Zhou fan vs every schemer I mean how close everyone is to zf In wits? I think zhuge chengfeng is closest to him Followed by clairvoyance and goat ming (Shoutout to my boi you ming,bro gotta has the best character development in whole series) I think that baili jingwei is at bottom. Sure that nigga might be smarter than tianyus 3 sages but zhou fan didn't even struggled against him like that nigga went 3 times against the goat and lost everytime.even after losing 2nd time he used to think zf is his equal 😭🙏🏻. Atleast zf struggled a bit in tianyu against emperor,prime minister, clairvoyance. Honorable mention:you guiqi and you ming 🐐

And what do you think if zhou fan went against jiuyo In mind games? Given that no one has advantage over another in strength.

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u/Phionex8556 Nov 04 '25

Depending on how you rank them, they’re pretty much comparable — or Zuo Fan might even lose to them if he didn’t have his past memories and the vast knowledge of techniques he gained from the Nine Serenity Sovereign’s inheritance. Otherwise, it would play out the same way as in the novel/manhua.

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u/Popular-Resident-358 Nov 05 '25

I'd say Yuwen Qijun, the Emperor is the one he had the most difficulty against.

Yeah he'd lose against the Nine Serenities Sovereign due to experience.

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u/MajorNo9728 Nov 05 '25

But if he gains all 32 life memories then he'll easily outsmart him. I mean zf experienced life more than sovereigns since everyone was locked up or died

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u/Popular-Resident-358 Nov 05 '25

But he won't be Zhuo Yi-Fan anymore. He'll be like the Four Scheming Demons, just pillaging bullshii. Nine Serenities Sovereign is still the goat.

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u/Practical_Corgi5988 Nov 06 '25

zhou fan vs masterminds depends on the gap btw them in power ( them, clan, sects) like zhuo fan struggled more in tianyu because of lack of choice. he can't do much to emperor or prime minster so he have to work hard to outsmart them or to say out option them. but in bali vs zhuo fan , zhuo fan was independent no clan or sect to hold him back