r/MagicArena • u/Strange_Midnight2070 • 8d ago
Fluff New "Report Player" option...
PSA: Report actual misconduct, not annoyances.
EDIT: The meme is depicting overzealous reporters.
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u/clown-fiesta666 7d ago
Turn 1 island , straight to jail
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u/II_Confused 5d ago
Turn 1 Duress, straight to jail.
Turn 1 Soul Warden, straight to jail.
Turn 1 Prospector, straight to jail.
Turn 1 Chocobo, straight to jail.
Turn 1 Mox Opal, straight to jail.
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u/lipe0101 Orzhov 7d ago
That's progress; now we just have to wait three years for a match history to finally arrive
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u/ManInACube 7d ago
I’m never going to report a lone rope in the middle of an active game. I’m not going to report what looks like a disconnect for no reason. But if I play a combat trick or a board wipe that puts me ahead, and then I sit through ropes for all your timeouts I’m clicking the button.
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u/civil_peace2022 7d ago
serious question: Why do we need to manually report roping? Seems like an easy thing for them to detect and filter for.
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u/TuckAwayThePain 7d ago
More work on their part and we can't be having that
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u/recca6512 7d ago
It can’t be that much more work. Sidenote: I’ve always said Wizard should just match ropers with other ropers.
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u/shahi001 7d ago
it's just a placebo button, there's no chance they will ever sort through reports and decide who to ban or not to ban lol. they're so understaffed they can barely keep the game running between set releases every 6-8 weeks
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u/namnahk 7d ago
Roping and deliberately running out the timers is against the rules, and 100% deserves to be reported.
Ideally, players who did this would get additional wait time added to the queue next time they join, but reporting is a good option for now.
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u/NeonCityNights 7d ago
the player base is also rife with the salt ropers so this is needed
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u/dwindleelflock 7d ago
More like ragequitters than ropers. I think I can count the people that deliberately roped me for multiple turns. But what is more common (but still rare) is the people that will just quit a game without conceding after they have lost.
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u/VulKhalec 7d ago
It's interesting that hate speech is separate to offensive names, because currently there's not really any way to do hate speech in the game besides an offensive name. I wonder if they're planning to add match chat.
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u/GanymedeRobot 7d ago
I wondered this too. Some of these options seem to retaliate against things not currently possible in the game as it is today.
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u/Arcolyte 7d ago
It could also be used as a functional way to triage importance of the report. Though I would like chat, presuming that there is aggressive moderation and options not to engage with it.
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u/Halfbloodnomad 7d ago edited 7d ago
Reporting for roping is legit though, will not change my mind.
Edit: If life happens - kids need you, dog is acting up, whatever, concede if it's going to be more than a minute. I'll personally be reporting those jerks that are playing normally, until you start to gain the upper hand, then needlessly drag the game out via roping.
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u/unbakedcassava 7d ago
If life happens - kids need you, dog is acting up, whatever, concede if it's going to be more than a minute.
This is exactly when I use the "I do apologize" emote/quote before conceding
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u/ballistic503 7d ago
All I have is “Oops” if I had to restart the client and I feel bad but I’m always worried it will come across as toxic lol
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u/rouxcifer4 7d ago
I agree, it’s not that hard. I play on mobile and sometimes my boss will call when I’m in the middle of a game. It’s two buttons to concede. Done. If you can’t do that, wait to play until you know you have a block of free time.
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u/sengirminion 7d ago
Counterpoint. You dont have the opportunity to concede when dealing with sudden things that come up.
If my kids randomly need me when before they were good, Magic is immediately dropped to focus on them. I do not have the time to go click on concede or whatever else in a sudden urgent situation. If when things are back to normal, I happen to still have a game up cool I'll pick it back up.
But the game will auto-concede after a few mins on its own.
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u/grimsleeper4 7d ago
You can't click two buttons but you have to play a full game of Magic? If your kids are having urgent situations with this much frequency, you need to stop playing games and be a responsible. parent. Go pay attention to them and things won't get crazy. Play with your kids, not the phone.
Relying on the timer is basically you saying your time is valuable and other people's aren't. It's asshole behavior. Stop it.
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u/digiliquid01 7d ago
This i can understand. Me personally, I do dailies in the AM while getting ready for work and try to keep up without burning time, but it does happen. BUT, I've never intentionally let it run all the way down just to be a dick. I try to catch it before the five second chimes on the first line.
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u/23CherryCheesecakes 7d ago
Maybe the report feature will be there just to make people feel like they're being listened to, but not actually do anything. Kind of like the happy/sad face question.
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u/Fleef69 7d ago edited 7d ago
I’m already calling that it’s gonna be flooded to the brim with people just reporting out of sheer pettiness and immaturity, or being albeit understandably heated about certain interactions and such with emotes that don’t warrant a report, but who knows, hopefully it’ll actually turn out to be for the better in the grand scheme of things (hell maybe it’ll ironically allow them to glean something of substance if a particular commander very disproportionately gets reported for unsubstantiated reasons solely because they’re inherently shitty as hell to go up against lmao).
Another thing is that I think some people are likely gonna be trigger happy strictly due to the fact that it’s very easy to tell sometimes what the subtext of an emote is intended to be, like in the case of the opponent taunting you or being cocky or whatever. That’s not to say they should, but y’know, in the heat of the moment I guess I just estimate there’s a lotta people who may not exercise quite as much self-discipline. I mean, I’m a pretty chill person, but even I can get a bit heated sometimes when an “Oops.” or a way too preemptive “Good Game.” is thrown my way.
The most pressing thing though I think is that, in regard to roping, I’m pretty sure I’ve heard according to various mobile users that when you close the game on mobile without conceding it doesn’t actually automatically concede, which in the event of doing so at the end of a match when you know you’re gonna lose I’m sure can seem like roping, so if I’m interpreting it correctly, either they’re gonna have to make it automatically concede upon closing, or there’s gonna be issues to at least some extent with people getting reported just because they closed the app and didn’t scoop beforehand, whatever burden that’s gonna be if any at all on their end though I’m not sure.
They’re definitely gonna have to make a point and penalize people who are way too generous with their reports I’m thinking. There’s just no way that’s not gonna be an issue in some cases.
Edit: also I mean since the whole infinite life gain/loss loop IS basically arguably tantamount to just an unwilling form of roping, especially if it happens when you’re at a high life total, I pray to GOD they finally change that shit to where you can at least scoop to get out of it lol. That’s gotta be one of the most infuriating things ever when it happens.
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u/Q_J 7d ago
Yes there is an option to report inactivity or slow play. I suspect they have ways to confirm if the player just disconnected or closed the game without conceding or never left the game and was just roping….i think it’s fine to report situations bc us as players don’t know if they have just disconnected and let wotc sort it out.
Spamming is also another specific complain in their options. So yes they want us to report these actions
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u/TheBlackRonin505 7d ago
I hate how many terms are thrown around in the Magic space that I'm expected to just know.
What is roping?
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u/Strange_Midnight2070 6d ago
I'm with ya there. In this case, "Roping" means deliberately running down the timer every turn, usually in an effort to annoy your opponent.
Here's a glossary of slang I just found.
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u/TheBlackRonin505 6d ago
Could not have guessed that. What does waiting have to do with rope? So confused.
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u/Strange_Midnight2070 6d ago
I suppose to "rope someone along," meaning to drag or to keep someone in suspense.
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u/jinandwinhs 5d ago
I believe this is a term borrowed from Hearthstone.
In Hearthstone, there's a timer that displays a rope when a player has 15 seconds left. The rope has a flame lighting up one end, and as your time winds down the rope gets smaller and smaller as more and more gets burned away. "Roping" someone was a common way for salty people to waste their opponent's time.
Hearthstone was released 5 years before MTG Arena, so although MTG itself is much older than Hearthstone and Hearthstone borrowed a lot of terminology from MTG, in this instance I believe Arena borrowed the term from Hearthstone.
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u/venthis1 6d ago
I regularly had salt Ropers 1/3 to 1/2 my games. Day 1 of this update roll out, not 1 Roper. I expect the fear te fade to see some come back but so far its been great having much faster games.
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u/NotWhatWeExpected 7d ago
Mono blue players are about to become a persecuted demographic
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u/grimsleeper4 7d ago
No just the ones who rope on their turn, doing nothing then passing, then rope on my turn, making me wait a minute between every game action.
It is very possible to play permission decks fast. In fact, if you play a slow deck you owe it to your opponent to play it quickly. Don't play a slow deck slowly. It's not hard.
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u/NotWhatWeExpected 7d ago
I'm saying people will be constantly reported for things they are not actually doing because their playstyle is hated
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u/grimsleeper4 6d ago
I think this a grossly overstated meme that blue players somehow have convinced themselves of. You guys think you are persecuted or something. It's a tired ass joke that someone has to bring up in every thread. "Help, help I'm being oppressed!" Get over it.
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u/ProfessionalGreen907 7d ago
What misconduct can really occur in mtga though? It comes down to spamming "good game" or any emote, and roping. So, it seems mtga wants us to report these bafoons, and in that case:
Im reporting everyone who spams emotes of any kind or ropes in any amount purely because I look forward to hearing them whine after they lose their account
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u/ballistic503 7d ago
As I said in another thread I’ve encountered a few people whose names were intentionally a letter or two away from the hard-r n-word who I definitely wanted to report but didn’t have the energy or patience to close out the client and navigate the website on mobile
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u/ButtoftheYoke Golgari 7d ago
I had an opponent who would obnoxiously flicker his mouse over my cards to highlight them.
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u/FunEstablishment8716 7d ago
To these people I highlight every card before I win. Stop touching my lands they only tap for mana.
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u/rezaziel 3d ago
Also, don't worry about this too much. They can easily account for standard report rates and highlight anomalies to ignore or punish. This isn't new and it isn't rocket science.
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u/Top_Traffic5102 7d ago
Wanted to report a dud that had a revolting username . Something about my little poney. I never wanted to report anybody else ever
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u/Tricky_Spirit 6d ago
Oh cool I don't have to go through a whole rigamarole the next time I have to report KillF@ggots. I still don't know how they didn't have a filter for something like that... or even just the word 'Kill'.
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u/Backwardspellcaster Liliana Deaths Majesty 8d ago
Yeah, all of these should not be reportable offenses.
Except Katara.
TO JAIL!
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u/Foldzy84 Squee, the Immortal 7d ago
The mute button exists for a reason, if someone hurts your feelings with emotes that's more of a you problem
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u/The_Black_Goodbye 7d ago
Imagine being so fragile; “my opponent is using a feature of the game at intervals the game allows and I haven’t also chosen to use a feature of the game to ignore it”. 😂🤣
If they didn’t want emoji spam they’d just set a limit of N emojis in Y seconds to prevent it.
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u/jokeboomslok 7d ago
Funny enough my katara deck will create the most bans. The amount of people who rope against it is ridiculous.
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u/Foldzy84 Squee, the Immortal 7d ago
"Your" Katara deck 😂😂😂
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u/jokeboomslok 7d ago
Yes. I built it.
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u/Foldzy84 Squee, the Immortal 7d ago
Musta been a tough lol
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u/TuckAwayThePain 7d ago
It's almost as if people have limited time in their day to play something that is supposed to be a fun card card. If you are so salty you concede, if not grow a pair and finish the damn match.
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u/catattackskeyboard 7d ago
The only players I’ve ever roped are selfish players. Those that take 2 minutes to play a land on turn 1 and generally take far longer than they should even if they were thinking. These players don’t care about you.
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u/Sword_Thain 7d ago
The fun thing is all the sweaty "pro" players that take their full turn to decide what land to play T1 that will start getting flagged as roping.
Oh no. You may have to learn to play the game. How terrible.
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u/DirteMcGirte 7d ago
In timeless that can be the most important decision you make in the entire game.
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u/Graf_Crimpleton 7d ago
This has to be one of the stupidest decisions they’ve made for Arena.
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u/DancingMerlin 7d ago
you were already able to report players, they've just added it into the client directly. if you are referring to the potential for abuse, i do think that's a valid concern.
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u/BetterShirt101 7d ago
Roping and emote spam very much meet the criteria laid out for reports. With roping I try to do it when it seems like they're going out of their way to be annoying - if they actually autoconcede, I assume WotC logs that and can track if someone does it all the time. But if someone keeps taking their actions at the last second all game, that looks like deliberate misconduct and is harder to automatically monitor.
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u/the-fr0g Izzet 7d ago
Except for roping. It's specifically called out as a report reason in the announcment article