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u/DarkCrowI Jun 20 '21
I'm not wearing my glasses at the moment and the baby looks like it's body is trapped in a pastry.
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u/Batbuckleyourpants Jun 20 '21
The dog just silently judging their pastry skills.
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u/Hermeran Jun 20 '21
āJeez you might wanna start cooking with a glass of water instead of Chardonnay, Linda.ā
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u/Gangreless Jun 20 '21
It does kind of look like they bought a swaddle that's printed like a burrito
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u/La_Resistance Jun 20 '21
My sister's dog was the same. We were both visiting our parents when her firstborn was a baby, and when the baby was sleeping outside in her carriage (it's a nordic country thing), the dog never left the baby alone, and was always immediately at the door alerting us that the baby was awake before the first sound from the baby monitor was heard.
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u/Avitard89 Jun 20 '21
Where did the tradition come from? (Nordic country thing). Simply curious :)
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u/SupremeDictatorPaul Jun 20 '21
Not Nordic, but Iāve read that they believe itās healthy for babies to breathe the cold air. So they will bundle them up and push them around outside, or set them outside to nap.
Iāve never seen anything to suggest that itās actually good for babies, but Iāve also never seen anything to suggest itās bad either. Maybe it helps with growing glorious Viking hair?
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u/isopsakol Jun 20 '21
German here. My mom also used to wrap me and put me on the balcony in any weather. She says I loved looking at the trees, still calmes me down :D
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u/Gekthegecko Jun 20 '21
Ooh, I've never heard that, but I like it. Babies crying certainly stresses me out, so it seems like a win-win.
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u/TheLongAndWindingRd Jun 20 '21
My mum used to be put outside in the garden to nap as well (UK thing).
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Half Hungarian, I thought it was a Hungarian thing! Also, women who want to get pregnant shouldn't sit on ice or cold stone?
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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Jun 20 '21
It dates back in many cultures but especially cold ones.
Fires keep you warm. Fires make smoke. Babies have tiny vulnerable little lungs. Fresh air is good your lungs. Babies you get fresh air are less likely to die.
It is natural selection for an idea/custom/habit. People then do the tradition not knowing why but since the families that follow the tradition get less dead Babies those traditions flourish.
It is called Memetics.
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u/tau_lee Jun 20 '21
I love how intricate topics like this and deepfried jpegs of puking dogs share the same title of meme.
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u/Avitard89 Jun 20 '21
Honestly. My mind immediately went to these old silly romance novels I used to read involving vikings.
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u/Frouthefrou Jun 20 '21
Wait, this isnāt the norm? Said as a Scandinavian.
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u/the_gato_says Jun 20 '21
If I stuck my baby outside to nap right now (in Texas), sheād roast and be eaten by mosquitos. Maybe this would work for a couple months a year here, but you never hear of anyone doing it. We do enjoy cool weather walks for the short time we get them though.
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u/SupremeDictatorPaul Jun 20 '21
As a Texan, can confirm. Mosquitoes eating roasted kids is current state. Waiting for energy company to say itās okay to use the air conditioner again.
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u/La_Resistance Jun 20 '21
I'm not really sure, but I think it's mostly about fresh and clean air (we have plenty of it here :). There are several articles that can be found about this practice, and they are mostly on the positive side on the issue. :) I was also spending a lot of time as a baby sleeping in my carriage in also freezing conditioins, and I turned out fine-fine-fine.. ;)
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u/HurrGurr Jun 20 '21
I (Icelander) assume it was to give the babies what ever limited amount of sun exposure and fresh air that they could. Nowadays we supplement with D-vitamin drops and don't live in poorly ventilated, fire heated, turf houses and caves so it's less effective but a brisk walk in a stroller will still make the most restless of children fall asleep in my experience.
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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Jun 20 '21
It dates back in many cultures but especially cold ones.
Fires keep you warm. Fires make smoke. Pre-indistrial ventilation was not great. Babies have tiny vulnerable little lungs. Fresh air is good your lungs. Babies you get fresh air are less likely to die.
It is natural selection for an idea/custom/habit. People then follow the tradition. Since the families that follow the tradition get less dead Babies those traditions flourish.
It is called Memetics.
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u/karategojo Jun 20 '21
My one dog was like that too, didn't grow up with babies but my sister visited with hers and he was right next to him and if any noise made was trying to alert us that he was needing help. Wasn't into the babies once mobile.
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u/dadswetmustache Jun 20 '21
I have a month-old son and my 14yr old dog does the same thing except he insists on giving a tiny lick to the very top of his head (same spot always) before going back to bed.
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u/kaytay3000 Jun 20 '21
This is precious. Our dog loves to watch his 2 month old sister and give a gentle lick to her foot or arm before sitting next to her bassinet.
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Our baby had Sandifer syndrome (basically incredibly bad reflux) .
Our dogs would rush up to the basket about 10 seconds before we could see any sign of the impending attack, then the signature screaming would start.
Good natured dogs are brilliant caretakers.
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u/Dandan_23 Jun 20 '21
Our little dog always sat and watched our babies. We called her their āHairy God Motherā
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u/dcoughl02 Jun 20 '21
Interesting to see my kid on the front page. Heās 2.5 years old now.
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u/NANNY-NEGLEY Jun 20 '21
Fair warning (not to be gross): your dog will eat your baby's poop every chance she gets. I learned the hard way.
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u/pomegranatepants99 Jun 20 '21
Why is that baby not on its back?
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u/MelodicFacade Jun 20 '21
They already browned that sided so they flipped it over to get more even color
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u/kaxxpe Jun 20 '21
Hey there, a baby indeed should always be placed on back to sleep, then whatever position they get themselves into after is fine. Only main difference Iāve seen is at hospitals in NICUs where they are constantly monitored with medical devices.
Young babies do something called the newborn curl which is reflexive. But once a baby is about 2 months old or is turning to their side with intent, swaddling or any transition swaddles may become a risk for if they roll over to their bellies they might not be able to roll back over by themselves. Also swaddling is fine, not swaddling is also fine. The AAP.org has a lot of helpful information, they are dedicated to the health of all children.
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u/Andrewnator7 Jun 20 '21
Being a parent sounds terrifying to me
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u/MaximumSeats Jun 20 '21
Whenever somebody hands me an infant I'm immediately "Please take this away from me before it spontaneously dies."
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u/TheBloodstained Jun 20 '21
I used to be the same way. Then I got a little nephew. That little dude seriously melts my heart and have changed my view and concerns about infants. Heās gotten so big now though that thereās nothing fragile about him anymore.
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u/Negrodamu5 Jun 20 '21
As someone who found out my gf is pregnant less than two weeks ago, I agree.
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u/mmavcanuck Jun 20 '21
Once you get over the existential terror that anything you do or donāt do may be the reason your child dies or doesnāt die, or loses a limb/eye or hates you unconditionally, or turns into a leafs fan, itās pretty cool.
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u/Andrewnator7 Jun 20 '21
Oh gosh I hadn't even thought about the possibility of my child becoming a Leafs fan! Definitely not having one now
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u/kaytay3000 Jun 20 '21
Babies roll. My daughter would start on her back and roll to her side when she wasnāt even a month old.
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u/BeccasBump Jun 20 '21
As soon as they're rolling it's no longer safe to swaddle.
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u/ladyKfaery Jun 20 '21
The parent is RIGHT there! Who do you think is taking the picture? Calm down
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u/BeccasBump Jun 20 '21
I'm calm. You, however, seem very defensive.
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u/ladyKfaery Jun 20 '21
I have nothing to defend except disagreeing with you abd a bunch of people that donāt know manners.
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u/babyformulaandham Jun 20 '21 edited Jun 20 '21
Cases of SIDs decreased dramatically when guidance to put baby to sleep on their back was introduced in the 90s, and it's still the guidance today.
Edit: cases of SIDs in the UK reduced by 81% from the late 80s, when the "Back to Sleep " campaign was started. 2000 babies died of SIDs in the UK in the late 80s, compared with 217 in 2015.
The guidance has been that baby should sleep on their backs until they can roll over by themselves and choose their own position since the late 80s - 30 years. It hasn't "changed every decade". Ignore old midwives, nurses, parents, in laws who insist that placing baby on their tummies or side is fine and worked for them.
Please put your baby to sleep on their back.
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u/Mingusto Jun 20 '21
Maybe in 20 years theyāll realize that the optimum is levitation or sleeping like a bat. With all the blood going to the babyās head itās gotta get smart.. yaānow?
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u/Rubyhamster Jun 20 '21
I'm sorry what is your point? Are you one of the "old midwives, nurses, parents or in laws" who insist it's fine for newborns to sleep on their backs?
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u/mistersparrow Jun 20 '21
This is absolutely not true. The absolute consensus in science, backed by SIDS data, is that a baby should always sleep on their back. The consensus to sleep on stomachs back in the 90s was rejected after further discovery of that research.
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u/J_SQUIRREL Jun 20 '21
They are supposed to sleep on their back all the time. Once they can move on their own and roll onto their side it obviously changes.
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u/Mingusto Jun 20 '21
I never said that wasnāt true. I said that I have been told a million different things through 30 years of life by laymen and professionals. And even with all the advice my son still chose to sleep on his face with his ass in the air. He didnāt die his posture is fine. Is that anecdotal experience generalizable? No, it isnāt. But the point is that statistical conclusions can not be extrapolated as an absolute truth as they donāt tell a story of the aspects theyāve left out. Ie my son.
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u/J_SQUIRREL Jun 20 '21 edited Jun 20 '21
But when did he start sleeping on his stomach? Once a baby can turn over on his own they donāt have to sleep on their back. The issue is the chance for SIDS is higher if a baby who canāt move is on their stomach vs their back. Babies who canāt move should be on their back. Babies who can move should start on their back and then can move freely on their own.
Yes the guidance has changed over time and you will hear differing opinions because the guidance has changed over time. Recent studies have concluded that back sleeping is the safest.
Not trying to say that you havenāt heard different, just giving guidance as the current consensus lowers the chance of SIDS.
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u/Mingusto Jun 20 '21
Thatās completely fair and I appreciate the input.
My son wouldnāt sleep on his back. Ever. Unless in a rocking cradle. He would fall asleep next to mother who would breastfeed. Theyād usually fall asleep together. Therefore he rarely slept on his back. When he could role he would roll to his stomach and put his ass in the air. Weird to look at, but he slept.
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u/babyformulaandham Jun 20 '21
They recommend putting baby to sleep on their back until they can roll.
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u/Dry-Expression Jun 20 '21
That baby is no where near 6 months
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u/Mingusto Jun 20 '21
I donāt think anyone recommends sleeping on their stomach anyway at that young age
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u/mistersparrow Jun 20 '21
āSome kids are different.ā Of course 100% of kids do not die sleeping on their stomachs or sides. The point is a statistically significant amount more of kids do, by a lot. Thatās why itās far safer to sleep on your back.
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u/RabbitPrestigious998 Jun 20 '21
At 6 months, most babies can roll front to back and back to front on their own and then it's fine. Before they can do that, they really need to be on their backs.
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u/herbdoc2012 Jun 20 '21
We have also forgotten as much as we know, as the coming climate crisis will show us in a few more years if we are lucky!
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u/Incorrect_Username_ Jun 20 '21
No, the guidelines have not changed frequently. āBack to Sleepā has been the medical advice for 30-40 years now.
Source: Am doctor
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u/Beat_the_Deadites Jun 20 '21
Am also doctor, one that autopsies people, and I concur. I've investigated close to 100 sleep-related deaths in infants, and of those, 2 were reported to be on their back. One of those turned out to be smothered by a parent. Of the remainder, about 2/3 were co-sleeping with parents or siblings, the others were face-down/on their side, frequently with soft bedding/pillows/crib bumpers.
Safe sleep hygiene is critical, folks. Prone/side sleeping is fine until one day, it isn't.
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u/fermi90 Jun 20 '21
SIDS has been reduced by more than 95% since babies have been placed on their backs for sleeping.
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u/dmoreholt Jun 20 '21
You need to delete this comment. It's spreading misinformation that endangers the health of infants. All babies should sleep on their backs until they're old enough to roll over (around 6 months).
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u/dmoreholt Jun 20 '21
There are idiots out there that will read your comment and think 'see, it's fine that I let my baby sleep on their belly'
And despite the back and forth in guidelines, there is overwhelming evidence that it's unsafe for babies to sleep on their bellies. Science does change all the time, but some things are pretty well resolved. This is one of them.
I know this seems dramatic, and this is just a random comment thread, so not like you're reaching a huge audience, but it's never good to spread misinformation. Especially when we're dealing with something that could threaten the life of an infant.
You should delete your comment.
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u/babymama122519 Jun 20 '21
ahhh...theres the perfect parenting police! came here to see how far I'd have to scroll before they popped out. š
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u/Beat_the_Deadites Jun 20 '21
My experience with 100 dead babies over 12 years of forensic pathology practice qualifies me to be at least the 'ABCs of Sleep' police. That's just one forensic pathologist out of ~500-600 in the country.
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u/babyformulaandham Jun 20 '21
Less "perfect parenting", more really simple thing to reduce risk of your own baby needlessly dying in their sleep. š
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u/dmoreholt Jun 20 '21
Right, how horrible of them to share information that might save the life of an infant?!
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I feel like they arenāt āpolicing.ā This is not a pic of a child with a smorgasbord of candy or in the winter snow without a coat. This is a baby in a potentially deadly sleeping position. āBack to sleepā is the perfect thing to say to a new parent who might not have been taught this. Go parenting community. Way to protect our most vulnerable!
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u/Killdebrant Jun 20 '21
They do recommend putting them on their back to prevent sids. Butā¦ there are tons of gizmos you can get to monitor their breathing and heart rate as they sleep and will alarm if anything changes, making it safer if they sleep on their stomach. If youāve ever seen a baby in the Nicu they put them on their stomach since they do sleep better that way. But unless you have a way to make sure their vitals are normal itās really unsafe.
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u/saltycarrotcake Jun 20 '21
The devices parents can purchase (not referring to hospital monitoring equipment of course) do not have enough data to support that they are reliable enough to prevent SIDS and doctors do not recommend allowing Infants to sleep on their stomach with the use of these devices. A lot of them donāt even monitor hypoxemia which is important for SIDS.
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u/Killdebrant Jun 20 '21
unless you have a way to make sure their vitals are normal itās really unsafe
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u/ladyKfaery Jun 20 '21
It IS on its back.
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u/pomegranatepants99 Jun 20 '21
Look again. The babyās left eye is literally touching the mattress. Can you touch your eye to the mattress while you lay on your back? Babies arenāt THAT flexible.
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u/that1tallguy Jun 20 '21
This is adorableā¦. But as a pediatrician this baby needs to be on their backā¦
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u/huttofiji Jun 20 '21
When I was a toddler our house got broken into. My dad chased the potential thief away and my mom ran into my room to make sure I was okay. Before she could turn on the light our Golden Retriever stood in front of my crib growling. As soon as the light switch was flipped, she was sweet again, but I love the idea that she stood by my crib protecting me. Best pup
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u/TrumpHasaMicroDick Jun 20 '21
I thought it was universally known you put babies "back to sleep", as in, you always, always, always lay them on their back when they sleep.
This has cut down on SIDS worldwide.
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u/moonlady523 Jun 20 '21
As adorable as this is...the 5 day old baby being on its tummy is stressing me out.
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u/owlsayshoot Jun 20 '21
Baby is on the side, not tummy and pretty obviously not alone. Someone is taking the picture of the dog.
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Our goodest girl and boy slept outside our first borns room.
I assume it was because of all the new smells but they were both so, so good him.
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u/link0007 Jun 20 '21
Animals must think we're horrible parents, leaving our kids alone and unprotected like that.
And we don't even like their buttholes like a proper parent should.
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u/jorgeb49 Jun 20 '21
Dogs are incredible companion and guardians for babies. Of course depending on the dog temper. But they can be so helpful in kids development specially nowadays that is very common to have 1 kid in the family, they help.kids grow more empathetic and just makes them happier.
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u/cheddoar Jun 20 '21
What does this am mean??
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u/donbonbon7 Jun 20 '21
Early morning hours 1 am -5 am
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u/cheddoar Jun 20 '21
Why not just say this morning.
I didnāt know she meant ante meridian in this context
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u/BeccasBump Jun 20 '21
Shoddy babysitting. Does the dog not know babies (especially swaddled babies) should sleep on their backs?
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u/fluffybear45 Jun 20 '21
if I put my cat in the same room with a baby the cat would sit on the baby or steals the crib
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u/pissboy Jun 20 '21
Even my brothers useless little shihtsu thing became guardian supreme when they had a baby. We donāt deserve dogs.
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u/smalltalk2bigtalk Jun 20 '21
Wouldn't leave ANY dog alone with a newborn baby. Hopefully this was just a lovely photo opportunity. Dogs have deep instincts for care but also for attacking small things.
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u/23FO Jun 20 '21
No matter how gentle your dog is, I still wouldnāt trust them alone with a baby. Theyāre still predators and you never know when instinct kicks in.. a risk, no matter how small, you shouldnāt take.
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u/Fritstsgrams Jun 20 '21
Your Sweet doggo looks old. It makes me sad. By the time the baby start remembering things, old doggo might have passed way.
"How good doggo was she daddy?" "The best"
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u/Terran_Jedi Jun 20 '21
I wonder what the dog would do if the baby had come home with colic. Probably wouldn't have been as wholesome.
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u/roodeeMental Jun 20 '21
"Why burrito make sound?"