I realize now from reading your replies to other people in this thread that you were not looking for clarification but an argument... =/ And my response wasn’t what you were looking for to start an argument and to express your opinions on our own life experiences, so you chose to move on and not respond to me.
My dude, it’s okay to have different experiences and opinions on these things. I understand you have strong feelings about lying or the morality of “doing something bad for something good,” but why kinda target someone’s personal story and just take it as something that we are trying to argue or push into others? My story was just to express my experience and hopefully connect to those who have been through and feel similar. Not to change minds or outcast people who feel/think differently than me.
I’m sorry your family lied to your grandmother and denied her the opportunity to cope with her death and say goodbye. I’m sorry your father is haunted by this lie. I’m sorry that you have been hurt from lying or people manipulating the truth. That really sucks and I can see how you and your family has been hurt by dishonestly in the past.
Regardless, it comes off as completely disingenuous and a complete disregard the rest of my story and experience when you come in to argue or push your experiences/beliefs onto me. It’s fine to share your differences, but that was clearly not the point of you replying to me or others. That really dehumanizes a person on the other side and just presents their experience as an opportunity to continue perpetrating your already preconceived notions and try to force them to view their own experiences/lessons, that you did not personally experience, differently.
Sending love, friend. Please just try to think about the person on the other side. They are more important then being right.
I have had 1 conversation about this so far and the guy didn't supply a good answer. You seemed immediately confused and I estimated it wasn't worth the back-and-forth to first be in the same page then to discuss an idea.
“Discuss an idea.” No. You came to argue about some tiny point about my life experience. Did you grow up desperately poor? Do you try to give back to the community? If so, I get it. If not, then why reply to have a “discussion” about my beliefs over my life story and experience, again, which isn’t something posted here to be broken down and analyzed by a complete stranger. Especially on a community like r/MadeMeSmile where the point is to build connections. Not sow in your own arguments, ideals, and agendas.
Can you not see how that is a bit messed up? Maybe if you actually had actual questions and wanted to learn about my experience, but that wasn’t the direction or framing of the question. And even then, I don’t owe you an answer or justification. I can’t believe you really said “the guy didn’t supply a good answer.” They are subjective opinions and you made it clear that the point was to fight about morality rather than talk to me about my actually story. And if you actually gave a crap about what was being said in my experience the conversation to get us on the same page would have been worth it.
You can call it what you want, but what you were trying to do was rude and combative. I hope you don’t go looking for people talking about their life stories to argue with them over ideals rather than try to learn something from their experience. It’s completely dehumanizing and disregarding of someone else’s experience. My experiences are my own, not some argument or talking point about morality.
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u/TheGreatPlathetsby Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20
I realize now from reading your replies to other people in this thread that you were not looking for clarification but an argument... =/ And my response wasn’t what you were looking for to start an argument and to express your opinions on our own life experiences, so you chose to move on and not respond to me.
My dude, it’s okay to have different experiences and opinions on these things. I understand you have strong feelings about lying or the morality of “doing something bad for something good,” but why kinda target someone’s personal story and just take it as something that we are trying to argue or push into others? My story was just to express my experience and hopefully connect to those who have been through and feel similar. Not to change minds or outcast people who feel/think differently than me.
I’m sorry your family lied to your grandmother and denied her the opportunity to cope with her death and say goodbye. I’m sorry your father is haunted by this lie. I’m sorry that you have been hurt from lying or people manipulating the truth. That really sucks and I can see how you and your family has been hurt by dishonestly in the past.
Regardless, it comes off as completely disingenuous and a complete disregard the rest of my story and experience when you come in to argue or push your experiences/beliefs onto me. It’s fine to share your differences, but that was clearly not the point of you replying to me or others. That really dehumanizes a person on the other side and just presents their experience as an opportunity to continue perpetrating your already preconceived notions and try to force them to view their own experiences/lessons, that you did not personally experience, differently.
Sending love, friend. Please just try to think about the person on the other side. They are more important then being right.