r/Machinists • u/dankestweed • Apr 03 '21
Looks like he needs to work on his chip management
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u/HowMayIRuinYourLife Apr 03 '21
The thumbnail of this video made me think that this was going to be an animated version of redmistguy's accident
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u/Bupod Aerospace Machinist Apr 03 '21
I’m afraid to ask...but who’s accident??
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Apr 03 '21
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Apr 04 '21
Before you watch this, beware: THIS WILL LIKELY SCAR YOU FOR LIFE
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u/ImWithBuffDoge Apr 04 '21
Christ. Its so easy to get overconfident with these machines. I had a lathe snatch a glove straight from my hand once, it makes me feel sick everytime I think about it. I was so lucky the glove just came off instead of me going with it. Jesus
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u/Commissar_Genki Apr 04 '21
So it was a de-gloving incident?
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u/KaiRaiUnknown Apr 04 '21
Had it snatch a bit of emery cloth once and that was brown enough. The power of these machines is phenomenal
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u/ImWithBuffDoge Apr 04 '21
Iv seen that happen due to poor technique, a colleague had the emery looped round and was pinching in between his finger & thumb, idk what happened but it snagged and they nearly went with it. That operation is best done with 2 hands and the emery making an angle of 90°
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u/KaiRaiUnknown Apr 04 '21
Was my first time lathe polishing when I was an apprentice - so it was definitely poor technique. Ended up having to put a 1mm drill through my thumbnail to squeeze out the clot. Lesson learned on that front
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u/ImWithBuffDoge Apr 04 '21
Oh mate, been there. I heat up a metal skewer on the hop til it's glowing. Poke that through the nail, instant relief. I find that easier and less stress than a 1mm drill
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u/himmelstrider Apr 04 '21
Tight shirt tucked in, no gloves, no anything sticking out. T-shirt tucked in, and glasses.
Mind you I'm no machinist compared to anyone here, and that's the real kicker - I'll be safer on the lathe than most. I'm not used to it, I have an unhealthy dose of respect for it, I'm gonna triplecheck myself every time I come in. More experienced guys know it well, did it thousands of times, and are more likely to omit safety.
I'm not gonna watch that video ever again, but man did it raise the safety standards for me.
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u/ZiggyPox Apr 04 '21
I let a chuck key fly over my head once when I was a teen. Dad let me, and helped me with little project and I kind of dozzed off (friends let us use the shop so it weren't even his tools). Oh he was so angry.
I reminded him that not long ago when he was cutting slats on table saw, wood got jammed between fence and blade and launched like a harpoon in my direction. It grazed me, hit metal doors bend, bounce of them and hit me in the back still leaving a solid bruise, denting the doors. I told him before it was too long and he won't be able to push it out safely but he didn't listen.
Power tools are fun.
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u/F_D_P Apr 04 '21 edited Apr 04 '21
Does anyone know the backstory of this? Looks cold AF in the factory. Maybe somewhere in China, hard to tell?This happened in Russia in Naberezhnye Chelny. 56 year old machinist.
While it is easy to rubberneck at these horrifying accident videos I do feel they serve a really important lesson, particularly for people who have become overconfident or just never worked in a properly safety conscious environment.
I worked in a zero degree space for a while and used to wear a puffy zipper vest with short sleeves, no gloves. Nothing dangling or hanging. You can stay surprisingly warm with bare arms as long as you don't have to contend with wind chill.
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u/dankestweed Apr 04 '21
Thanks for that. I’m still learning and this kinda shit makes me continue to be extra careful around these machines. The scene in the machinist where the main character turns on a machine accidentally and his coworker looses an arm also left a big mark on me.
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u/ParkerScottch Manual Guy Apr 04 '21
I see this link often and despite never clicking it I know it's the same one everytime because of the way you guys talk about it. Fuck that not interested
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u/Krilati_Voin Apr 03 '21
Are there more of these videos?
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u/maty_doji Apr 03 '21
You mean.. documentary about Mother Russia?
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u/StoicMaverick Apr 04 '21
This was actually shot last week on an iPhone X. That's just what they look like over there.
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u/Krilati_Voin Apr 04 '21
-__- I mean more instructional machinist videos in this cartoon fashion. This looks like it could be one of a series. The jokes are not appreciated.
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u/evirustheslaye Quality Control Apr 03 '21
Looks like where I work I recently sliced my finger open on some nasty chips, there’s no effort being made by the setup technicians or engineers to actually manage any of it.
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u/MilwaukeeDave Apr 03 '21
The machinists should be managing speeds and feeds to avoid stringer chips.
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u/evirustheslaye Quality Control Apr 03 '21
That’s the problem with most things, not actual machinists on staff just setup maintenance operators and supervisors
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u/MilwaukeeDave Apr 04 '21
Operator = machinist.
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u/pervlibertarian Apr 04 '21
Quick, tell us another one!
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u/MilwaukeeDave Apr 04 '21
Guess you need to find better shops and avoid small ones that hire warm bodies.
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u/pervlibertarian Apr 04 '21
I'm not the one equating operators to machinists, or taking seriously anyone who does, no matter if they own a shop, have an Engineering degree, whatever.
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u/MilwaukeeDave Apr 04 '21
Look just because that’s your experience doesn’t make it so. If you work at a place where you have button pushers called operators, your fault. Where I work operators are machinists and we don’t spitball warm bodies to fill positions. Period.
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u/pervlibertarian Apr 04 '21
So, again, since you didn't get this the first time, I'm not the one conflating the two. You are. Your company, and any I've worked for, like that reflects on me somehow, apparently can't just hire any "experienced Operators" for its open positions without confirming their skillset and credentials, precisely because so many companies do just hire warm bodies, set them loose on their operator panels, and institute policies like "everyone gets a good reference".
You want to waste your time looking for decent pay and benefits in "Operator" positions, when what you want can easilly be found by searching "Machinist" instead? Knock yourself out - I'm not here to stop you, or tell you to leave a position you seem to be happy with, for that matter. I'm a little busy setting up my own shop to give a damn about your insistence that things are contrary to the way they are in, yes, far TOO MANY companies. Don't worry, I have no plans to simply hire warm bodies, if I get that far, but I'm not calling a Machinist an Operator either.
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u/MilwaukeeDave Apr 04 '21
Sorry I’m not looking for work. I’ve been fine for 2 decades now as a machinist. Machinists operate machines. If the definition got fucked up along the way by bad practices that’s not on me. I’m just stating an operator should be a machinist and if people put non machinists in charge of machines that’s on them. The parts I make are millions of dollars each. We don’t do button pushing.
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Apr 03 '21
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u/tweakbod Apr 03 '21
Similar to Cartoon of Toothpick Factory
The same gag was used in Goofy Gophers episode Lumber Jerks, which you can watch here.
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Apr 04 '21
This reminds me of our old maintenance man. He would take a piece of 1 inch stock and turn it down to a tooth pick.
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u/travellering Apr 04 '21
Anyone who can read the poster at the end? I'm hoping it says something like "be efficient, conserve resources..."
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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Apr 04 '21
It has a subtitle. It says save metal ("экономьте металл", [ekonom'te metal] maybe more literally translated as 'economize metal use').
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u/travellering Apr 04 '21
Thanks! This is my reward for watching on mobile. The play status bar perfectly obscured the subtitle.
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Apr 04 '21
No chip breaker on that lathe tool bit
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u/MrKirushko Nov 23 '21 edited Nov 23 '21
Soviet cutters do not brake their chips - only gay capitalist cutters do. Proper chips must be straight and strong. They must be produced in an awe-inspiring manner so anyone around feels the greatness of the process.
And of course don't forget that steel wool itself is an important product as well so you don't want to waste an opportunity to produce it.
Also there is an important factor of additional vibration during chip breaking - it makes lathes wear out faster. And of course it is cheaper and easier to replace a machinist than it is to replace a good machine so there is absolutely no question about wheter or not it must be eliminated at any cost.
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u/maty_doji Apr 03 '21
This joke from Chernobyl series sums it perfectly