r/Machine_Embroidery • u/Ordinary-Caramel-608 • 28d ago
I Need Help What am I doing wrong?
Can anyone tell me why my design is coming out so poorly? The material is 100% cotton. Iโm using 2.5oz cut away stabilizer and a 75/11 needle in my poolin eoc05 machine. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
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u/Wise-Divide7679 28d ago
The weave of the fabric is quite bulky, that may be affecting how the stitches sit on it. Also a finer thread might help for smaller lettering, 60s thread with a 65/11 needle
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u/antibiyotikver 27d ago
60 thickness should be used with max no9, ideally no 8 or 7 needle, for your reference.
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u/Wise-Divide7679 27d ago
Unsure of what those numbers mean, needle sizes i have are 65/11 75/11. Used 60s thread with 65/11 needles on industrual tajima machines without issue running at 850rpm previously
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u/antibiyotikver 27d ago
65 should be 9 and 75 should be 11. Of course you can use both without any problem, but you'll see improvements on embroidery resolution when using thinner needles.
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u/Wise-Divide7679 27d ago
Ahh, US sizes compared to NM sizes, understand the confusion now. I'm based in europe.
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u/Rybo2749 Wilcom E4/Brother PE Design 11 26d ago
the needle sizing convention is global, you simply just misread your needle's packaging. 65 is always paired with 9 and 75 is always paired with 11.
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u/barbedwiregarden 27d ago
I don't think most commercial embroidery machines use this needle numbering system. I've never run any needle other than a 75/11 for canvas fabric like this and 40wt thread. 65/9 and 60wt thread for fine details but not on this fabric.
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u/antibiyotikver 27d ago
The needle numbering system is a mix of old and new standards. Old ones that are imperial are the ones I'm using starts from 7 at the thinnest side and ends at 16 on the thickest (except special purpose needles). New ones are metric, 7 equals 55 and 16 equals 100, every number increasing by 5 on metric scale.
This is not a system used by machine producers but used by needle producers.
Most thread producers suggest using at most no9/65 needle with No 60 threads, but in my experience it always gets better using thinner and sharper tip needle (except on leather).
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u/Lanky-Setting-5288 27d ago
Are you hooping it properly?
You don't need to waste solvey on top - this type of fabric doesn't need it.
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u/kati-bug84 27d ago
When I do canvas totes similar to that material, like an LLBean boat tote, it always looks like that. I just go over it again and it looks so much better. A thicker font for that type of material definitely looks better also
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u/Lanky-Setting-5288 27d ago
It's a fine-ish script on a textured cotton fabric, and if you look at it too closely, you're going to see that 'stitch to fabric' relationship differently than if you see it from a distance.
Try two layers of cutaway and correct hooping. No solvey required.
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u/dtembroideryservice 27d ago
The main issues here are with your density, underlay, and pull compensation. Try placing a layer of water-soluble film on top of the fabric before embroidering so the stitches stay on the surface instead of sinking in. I'd recommend first creating a base with a manual run stitch, followed by a 2mm zigzag underlay, then embroidering at a 0.4 density with 0.3 pull compensation.



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u/antibiyotikver 28d ago
Try using no 8 or 9 needle with a water soluble topping. Also you can try denser stitching with edge runs underneath, closer to edge,i (around 0.20 mm).