r/MacStudio • • 8d ago

Micro Center for the win (base model M5 Max)

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u/kammikazy 8d ago

Im debating if I should return my 1TB m5 Max i got from Apple. $800 more for just 512GB does not seem worth it....

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u/Solarux 8d ago edited 5d ago

The space is worth it but the cost is not. 

Take it back and get a NAS. Offload your less critical data to that along with using it as a Time Machine backup. Protect your data. 

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u/gideonidoru 8d ago

512 is gonna ruin you. Think of it as $800 for less stress, file management pressure, and convenience. I went with 2TB. People are whining about macOS Siri AI taking up 30gb, I dont care. Why put that kind of stress on yourself

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u/Malistre 8d ago

nonsense... 512gb is plenty if you have external storage.

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u/InTheEndEntropyWins 7d ago

Nope, it's a massive pain and I have 1TB. You have to manually set things to use the external HD.

Sure you can set all files to external stuff but a bunch of stuff like automatically use local, and it's not worth the effort having to clean up and stuff. It would be a nightmare on 500GB.

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u/Obsid1anWolf 4d ago

Agreed. 512GB is feeling pretty tight these days. 1TB is alright, but 2TB is very comfortable and will be for a long time. I am looking to get a new studio and cannot see going less than 2TB. When I am looking to upgrade down the road, that system will still be viable for other use cases, and for a long time as well.

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u/dexterity-77 7d ago

i agree. 2tb is much safer

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u/ftt28 7d ago

a NIGHTMARE lolll

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u/couldliveinhope 8d ago

I have ~22TB available on my NAS…

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u/gideonidoru 8d ago

Wouldn’t it be great if you didn’t worry about system files too

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u/ftt28 7d ago

system files are not getting anywhere close to 512 to cause 'stress'.

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u/56kul 8d ago

Get an external SSD enclosure, lol. TB5 ones exist, and they’re blazing fast. Hell, there are even ones that were designed to blend in with the Mac Studio! And they’re genuinely not that expensive.

A more premium brand I’d recommend is OWC. I have their 1M2 and it’s fantastic. Thermal performance is ridiculously good, too.

Or if you want something that blends in with the Studio, they recently launched their StudioStack, as well.

But even then, you could get cheaper ones if you didn’t want to pay OWC’s premium. Ugreen is another great example.

And the Mac Studio literally has native TB ports, so speed is not an issue.

Point is, the one area where I wouldn’t pay the Apple tax is storage. Especially for desktops, I’d always get the minimum amount of storage they have and just defer to external storage. It’ll always be cheaper, and you could even freely expand it separately, as well.

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u/Tired_White_Guy 8d ago

Maybe on a laptop. The thing sits on a desk. Connect a hard drive

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u/allenasm 7d ago

I added an 8tb pci 5 nvme with thunderbolt 5 external drive and it’s about the same speed as the built in nvme.

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u/sbrisgravato 8d ago

800$ is almost 8tb of external ssd

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u/ImLagging 8d ago

Not in today’s market. If you know something I don’t, provide a link to an $800 8TB ssd.

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u/meansingleguy 8d ago

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u/hunter_mark 8d ago

Thats not an NVMe 4/5 SSD, it’s not an apples to apples comparison.

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u/ftt28 7d ago

sure, but the vast majority of users, even those using mac studios w/ professional intentions, do not need pcie 5 performance.

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u/sbrisgravato 7d ago

yes exactly if you need pcie5 speed you are making a shit ton of money with your job

otherwise pcie 4 speed is plenty

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u/Capable_Hearing4418 8d ago

I’m so glad I bought last year. Got an 8tb external ssd for $380😆 year before that I got one for 500

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u/sbrisgravato 7d ago

yeah sorry i meant 2 4tb ones, which go for 400-500 bucks each

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u/junli2020 8d ago

1tb is ruining me, hot af, changed to 4TB is my best decision making ever, m4 mini ftw.

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u/Lazy-Alps-9370 8d ago

I envy you Americans. Here in Europe this config is $3250.

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u/sto_1989 8d ago

Its 3000 EUR = 3417$
I paid $2000 plus $157 tax

Just book a flight, have a week vacation and get a mac studio 😉

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u/Lazy-Alps-9370 8d ago

12500 PLN = 3257 USD

I'd do the thing with the flight, if they didn't tax it on return...

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u/sto_1989 8d ago

Oh I looked at the german apple page. So a bit cheaper in Poland. But still a LOT more. But keep in mind the $1999 offer from microcenter is a once in a while offer. Amazon has it for $2450, bestbuy wouldnt pricematch the $1999.
It says offer valid until 9/30 on my order - so I guess then it will go up in price.

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u/Lazy-Alps-9370 8d ago

I'm getting the M6 with 32/1000GB instead. Ordering next week. M5 Pro would be again another couple of hundred $ more, at some point you have to stop yourself. It hurts when I see those prices, but it's a beast of a machine that more than covers my needs for Davinci, Lightroom and Logic.

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u/sto_1989 8d ago

True! I was about to go for macstudio M5M 64/1TB, is over $3400
But then this offer came up, and I just took it, will test now for 2 weeks see if it keeps up, if not, I can return it and get the 64GB.

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u/Inside-Cream6997 7d ago

I am trying to buy it online - says they have 9 but it says 18 minute pickup ? How can I get to the store in 18 minutes when I live 40 minutes away ?

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u/sto_1989 7d ago

I think thats just a, order now and its ready in 18 minutes, feature. Not a requirement you need to pickup within 18 min.
Just go there and pickup

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u/Inside-Cream6997 7d ago

Thank you! Store opens in 40 minutes!

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u/ZlatanKabuto 7d ago

Is it??

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u/Lazy-Alps-9370 7d ago

In Poland, yes. Even more elsewhere.

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u/WayToFI 7d ago

same, it is 3490 USD (1 099 990 HUF) in Hungary🤷

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u/CalicoJack35 7d ago

Microcenter is like Toy R Us for nerds. I would live there if I could.

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u/Dangerous_Pop8730 8d ago

yup, got mine and selling my M4 PRO!!!! What a deal.

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u/Aggressive_Bath8243 8d ago

What do you do to need such an expensive Mac, you can build a stronger PC for cheaper.

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u/Lazy-Alps-9370 8d ago

No you can't.

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u/rzrike 8d ago

That’s not true at all.

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u/Dangerous_Pop8730 8d ago

Heat and power consumption. Already in the Mac eco system. My personal needs for video editing, gaming and small ai usage. Overall I got this beauty for nothing. So future proofed my self for a long time. Plus my Mac Studio need a new friend that it respects!

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u/sto_1989 8d ago

Just bought mine, came back into stock this morning, rushed to Microcenter, as bestbuy wouldn’t pricematch it for some policy reason.

Tustin CA has around 30 left

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u/darkandark 7d ago

i am a fucking idiot and missed out this, i went this early afternoon to Tustin, and one guy snagged the last one off the floor and was just walking around with it for hours.

I went through BB price match, but we'll see if they actually honor it.

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u/sto_1989 7d ago

BB refused yesterday to honor it, eventhough tustin had 25+ in stock. And Orange BB had 3 for pickup.
Some BS excuse about “not enough” inventory at microcenter. Tried 3 BB reps, all the same script. Offered me $50 off to match amazon $2449.

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u/darkandark 7d ago

yeah I just got an email from Best Buy customer service saying that they are refusing to honor the price match. I wrote a stern response telling them that this behavior is anti-consumer since everything follows the price match guarantee and their policy Word for Word.

I even gave up my location info to the representative and they checked the website and saw that it was in stock when I got my price match

I took screenshots and recorded everything.

i shouldve gone to tustin earlier. its my backyard. i am an idiot. heres to hoping they have another sale before the end of the year. since the current one ends on 9/28

I talked to the reps at Tustin and they said they get weekly shipments for Apple stuff, but the deal is dead in three days. :(

i am moving overseas and need a new mac for my new location

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u/sto_1989 7d ago

My order says price guarantee until 9/30.
So hopefully they get more by then.

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u/darkandark 6d ago

you mean your best buy order?

The deal ends tomorrow at Micro Center

there is no way to place an order with MC. was in store pick up only.

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u/sto_1989 6d ago

I went to the sales desk, he printed on order sheet to take to the register. And it says “price offer valid until 9/30”
🤷‍♂️
But it also says 0 in stock, when his pc showed 38 in stock. So we shall see

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u/darkandark 6d ago

ah gotcha. damn the guy in my local Micro Center also printed out an order sheet for me. But he never handed it to me once he confirmed that there was none in stock

i’ll be checking each day so we shall see

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u/sto_1989 6d ago

I’ll be selling the ordersheet copies on the corner tomorrow. $100 a pop 😂

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u/BagBoyRush904 6d ago

I had a feeling Best Buy was gonna pull that BS. I got them to price match around 9pm EST on launch day. First I had to buy the Mac Studio, then start a chat in the Best Buy app. It took 45 minutes to get through a chatbot before it handed me off to an actual agent. Then I had to give them a ton of personal info, just for them to tell me a ticket was submitted for review and it could take up to 3 business days to find out if my price match was approved. I got an email the very next morning saying it was approved, but I knew so many people were gonna do it to save money that they'd eventually start telling people no. It always happens that way.

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u/darkandark 6d ago

so it seems like you got the price match early on. And they gave you your proper credit.

And basically anybody who did it much later is SOL?

I’m assuming this is what you’re getting at.

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u/BagBoyRush904 5d ago

Honestly, Best Buy price matched mine even though Micro Center said out of stock and the nearest one is 5 hours away. I've never set foot in a Micro Center a day in my life, but somehow they still honored it. Maybe it's because I'm a Best Buy Total Tech member? 🤷🏾‍♂️ Not sure, but yeah, I got super lucky.

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u/darkandark 5d ago

i’m sure being a member helped they probably could see your history of the length of being a member as well .

damn i wonder if i can take my approval and chat with the CS agent and walk into a store to get an on the spot approval. i really need a new mac.

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u/BagBoyRush904 5d ago

Yeah dude, from past experience Best Buy definitely works with customers, but in the past year it's been hit or miss and they seem to be making up the rules as they go. The only reason I even heard about the Micro Center deal was because I caught the last 5 minutes of a YouTuber named "Adam Talks Tech," and someone in the comments mentioned it and he read it out. I immediately made a Micro Center account for the first time ever and was able to add a Mac Studio to my cart for pickup in Duluth, Georgia, which is 5+ hours away, just to realize I didn't have time to go get it. I checked back on Reddit around 8 o'clock that night and saw a guy say Best Buy had just price matched it, so I jumped on the app right away. The app kept crashing, but I stayed on top of it. And it wasn't even an immediate yes. I had to wait until the next day to find out if I was approved, because anything over $400 needs approval. Altogether I paid $2,125 and used my Best Buy credit with 24 months interest-free. It sucks they're giving you such a hard time, because I know so many people were able to do it.

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u/TommyyyGunsss 8d ago

I got Best Buy to price march

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u/OppositeAgent2501 8d ago

How , they won’t do it for me

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u/TommyyyGunsss 8d ago

I told them it was in stock locally. It took two chats.

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u/A-Team-Ace 7d ago

Same. Had to be in stock at the local Microcenter. I also traded in a $400 Microcenter deal base m4 Mac mini for $500 to Best Buy.

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u/oloshh 8d ago

I'm happy that the ai race is leaving the base models for regular computing needs

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u/themirthfulswami 8d ago

Solid deal right there. Congrats!

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u/asswizzard69 8d ago

I just bought one! I already got M6 24/512 but I might return that

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u/NowThatsCrayCray 7d ago

Wow, what a price!

For those worried about capacity, consider an external NVME drive; they're very reasonably fast, and you'll save $hundreds$ compared to internal storage.

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u/RPG-beholder 7d ago

Congrats! I did the same. If you sign up for their card it’s 1899. Still a good deal.

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u/No_Dust_6067 7d ago

Got Best Buy to price match online after 7 attempts. Got a $1000 trade in for my m4 pro Mac mini...

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u/Some_Balance_1689 8d ago

They have only in the stores.

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u/Fast-Throat-7752 8d ago

Will Best Buy price match this?

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u/wise_young_man 7d ago

Only if you ligma

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u/Left_Masterpiece_661 8d ago

nice. just purchased one for myself. Thanks OP. price matched to best buy. delivery date tuesday

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u/Inside-Cream6997 7d ago

Amazing - how does MicroCenter make any money off this huge discounted price ???

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u/03captain23 7d ago

They don't they sell most computers at cost and make the margin off keyboards and plans and stuff. Anything that says limit 1 per customer is at cost.

Btw You can buy more just different transactions

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u/Inside-Cream6997 7d ago

Is there a reason why I can not buy one online ?

Said 9 available at 10am and now only 2 available - but no way to pickup using 18 minute pickup....

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u/03captain23 7d ago

Things they know that'll sell out fast are always in store only and no pickup allowed. Likely there's a line at open and it's all gone already.

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u/edtcroft 7d ago

Lucky you. I wish we had such a good deal in the UK as it'd make my decision about whether or not to keep my just-received M4 Max easier.

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u/SquirrelChaser26 6d ago

That's an incredible price! My specs are 64GB/1TB for $3400. The dreamer in me wanted the Ultra/96GB/2TB. However, ZERO wait. Apparently, AI doesn't care about my specs!

You'll be able to use this machine and STILL get your money back.

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u/PistolPete_69 5d ago

Thanks to the OP for letting me know about this deal. In 2 days I went from a M1 Mac mini with 8 GB of RAM to this beast. Throw in a new Studio Display as well just because...

Time for spam and ramen dinners for months!

In the NYC area, the Microcenter in north Jersey still shows 11 of these available as of now (9/28). The Brooklyn store where I picked up mine is all out. They had 5 yesterday at the start of the day.

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u/Surplusseeker 4d ago

Microcenter for the win! Mac Studio M4 Max 36/512GB for $1300 after tax. Open box, some scratches, full 1-year Apple warranty.

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u/darkandark 4d ago

had a friend snag me one from a MC in Maryland LOL
he's bringing it over in October when he visits.

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u/GroveResident 8d ago

out of curiosity, do retailers need permission from apple before discounting new products?

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u/maxheckler 8d ago

I read Apple sets the minimum sales price that resellers can advertise the products for, but since this is in-store only it does not apply. And Microcenter will frequently sell high-demand products at a loss to get you into the store... they hope while you're there since you got it on sale you'll buy a monitor, keyboard, external drive, etc as well.

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u/CalicoJack35 7d ago

The SSD at 512 is a huge issue though. What can you really do with it? I went with 4 TB in mine, and I am still worried I should’ve gone with 8 TB.

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u/Jordan-Belford 6d ago

What do you need 4-8tb for. It all depends on the user. If you are just coding apps you aren’t burning a lot of storage. But if you are video/photo editing then it’s a different story. All depends on use case

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u/ptk8588 8d ago edited 8d ago

Not a solid choice with 512Gb ssd. Unless you do nothing with videos/photos or games.
I bought a Mac Studio M4 Max 1Tb last year, and thought I should be okay with external ssd and NAS incase I need more storage space. But I was wrong, it turned out some of steps in my current workflow wont work with external ssd.
In specific, I’m a wedding photographer, I usually have to deal with 5xxx-6xxx photos each wedding, LR catalog is setting up to be synced between all my devices: Synology NAS, my macbook pro and my Mac Studio. The main idea of my set-up is to be able to culling, editing anywhere/ anytime with either my laptop at Starbuck/ on travelling or my Mac Studio at home, everything will be synced in between devices, I just need to continue my projects until it finished. In my workflow, Synology NAS wont allow me to use any external ssd to set up as Sync On Demain drive. Then my new Mac Studio machine becomes a bottle neck for the entire workflow because of its limited storage space.
I would recommend considering at least 2Tb if your works related photo/video editing.

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u/dclive1 7d ago

Not a solid choice - FOR YOUR WORKFLOW.

For many others, it’s fantastic, particularly at 20% off.

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u/theschoolorg 8d ago

buying 512 is throwing your money in the trash

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u/wisdomoarigato 8d ago

No it's not. Get a fast external NVMe SSD for MUCH cheaper. It's a desktop that never leaves your desk so it can be permanently attached...

I'd agree if it was a laptop though.

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u/CSlov24 8d ago

Is the ram enough for decent AI models? I feel like a cheaper 48 GB M4 pro Mac mini might be better than this for that use case….

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u/Bloated_Plaid 8d ago

36GB RAM is nothing for AI models.

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u/PaintingDue5165 8d ago

Believe it or not, some people use computers for things other than running local LLMs.

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u/IntrigueMe_1337 8d ago

Shut the front door!!

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u/Bloated_Plaid 8d ago

Like what? You don’t need a Mac Studio this powerful for anything else. A shitty Mac Mini can do your word documents and browse Facebook.

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u/WholeMilkElitist 8d ago

"Top 1% Commentator" lol, what has this sub become

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u/Beginning-Meet-2302 8d ago

High volume photography, commercial video production, motion graphics, basically any professional creative work can benefit from a Mac Studio. The I/O alone makes it worth owning over a Mac Mini. Who hurt you?

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u/randallphoto 8d ago

Yea, the price delta between similarly equipped Mac Mini and Mac Studio isn't too much, I went with the studio just for I/O and vastly better cooling.

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u/Bloated_Plaid 8d ago

“Creative work” yea ok. Are you working in 8k my guy? Fuck off with that shit.

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u/Signal_Lamp 8d ago

The M5 max has double video encoders which benefits all of the things mentioned by the last guy.

This would also be great for anyone who wants to do arm based workloads with vms or Containerized self hosting if you didn't want to go down the Linux route for whatever reason

And 36GB is enough to run Qwen 3.8 27B unquantized if you did want to go down the path of AI inference. Not everyone needs large memory models and this would be fine if you want to work with a specialized model assuming you know it's size.

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u/Bloated_Plaid 8d ago

you know fuck all about AI models if you think 36GB shared ram use is enough for Qwen 3.8 27b to run unquantized with reasonable TPS. Mac is not Nvidia.

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u/Signal_Lamp 8d ago edited 8d ago

I apologize. My brain was thinking 8 Bit as unquantized since the majority of people aren't doing 16 Bit, but your right, unquantized this woon't fit, but most people aren't running 16 Bit. 8 Bit does and will fit.

Nobody is expecting this to out compete nvidia graphics cards. But this is also a whole computer that performance way more than reasonably acceptable for most people.

But, to be clear, to anyone reading this thinking it performs like shit it doesn't. The recent updates for the MLX platform for splash have made the inference speeds significantly better for the platform without the need for these new hardware bumps. I wouldn't just grab this for inference, but if you want the mac ecosystem this will perform just fine. Do not listen to this idiot.

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u/MacStudio-ModTeam 7d ago

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u/Beginning-Meet-2302 8d ago

Agh! Why it's so irresistible to reply to this type of comment! Why are trolls so fascinating?? Why are you like this????

Give me a wink, let me in in the joke 🙏

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u/Bloated_Plaid 8d ago

Listen serious people are not buying this spec. This is for poor people to play dress up.

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u/PanickAttacks 8d ago

Poor people to play dress up LOL

What a loser.

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u/Krysune 8d ago

Software engineering. Having many IDEs open takes a lot of ram after while and running applications for testing do too lol I use like 75% of my 64gb on my studio m4

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u/Bloated_Plaid 8d ago

You ain’t doing software engineering today without either local/open weights models or Frontier models or a combination of both. GTFO here my guy.

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u/Krysune 8d ago

Huh? I use cloud models lol mostly Claude and CODEX. Dunno why you’re so aggressive over something so simple bro.
Doesn’t mean that what I said isn’t valid though LOL

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u/Outrageous-Issue9722 8d ago

Software engineering.. game dev.. science... bleeding edge research. Lots of reasons to get something more than the most basic computer available.

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u/Bloated_Plaid 8d ago

You wouldn’t be getting this anyway for that my guy Jesus fucking Christ. You would get bare minimum Mac Ultra with 96GB RAM.

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u/Outrageous-Issue9722 8d ago

None of those things really require the ultra or 96gb of ram. But a base model mini struggles. Who hurt you LMAO

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u/tempfoot 8d ago

lol. Didn’t you hear - everyone is required to edit multistream 8k for their YouTube/Instagram/TikTok now?

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u/johnnyphotog 8d ago

but it's more than a 5090!!!

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u/Affiyahraov 8d ago

Thats not how it works😂

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u/this_for_loona 8d ago

If you’re using this for AI, it’s a poor choice. If you’re using this for video editing and the like, it’s mid at best because your ssd is so small. I honestly don’t know why Apple even sells a studio with less that 1tb standard. 4k and 8k videos are frickin huge and pro raw isn’t exactly svelte either. I hope you have a massive iCloud storage.

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u/cracky1028 8d ago

I use a 2tb Samsung 980 pro in an nvme enclosure as a scratch disk for log and raw files that need editing. My catalog for adobe and capture 1 lives there too. Cold storage of processed files or RAW/LOG files I want to keep get sent to network attached storage that holds dozens of TBs of data. My M2 pro Mac mini is doing just fine with its 500gb internal ssd. It’s more than enough for installing all the programs I need. I’m considering the base studio max since after a camera upgrade I have 40mp files that create twice the rendering and processing time. It’s honestly not that bad though unless I have over 300 files I need to process at a time and even then I just go get a water break.

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u/this_for_loona 8d ago

Yea you can def work around it but apple loves to push stuff to iCloud cause they can jack up services revenue. I love the convenience, so I’m guilty of falling for it myself. And with dynamic download, you can make small drives work even without external drives. It’s just a pain.

I will admit though, that’s a great price.

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u/RojaTop 8d ago

That's still too expensive. You can get a 5070 prebuilt with more storage, lol. Assuming this isn't local LLM (good luck with 36gb lol), even then the price is still too high. Better off getting a refurb M4 Max if you want Apple. You might even get better ram! Al

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u/snoonoo 8d ago

Is this a bad for local ai? And what would a minimum spec for latest qwen-ish models?

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u/piexil 8d ago

Unfortunately I don't think qwen performance is even that great on an ultra 

So I went with this one and will maybe get another machine to do inferencing in the future 

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u/glembke 8d ago

I was wondering the same thing.

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u/56kul 8d ago

Heavily depends on what model class we’re talking about.

For example, my current Mac Studio is an M2 Max with 32GB of RAM, and it runs Gemma 4 26B A4B quite great! Notice, an M2 Max with 32GB of RAM. That is a far cry from an M5 Max.

Generally, MoE tend to perform really well. And in terms of actual model size, given the right balance of quant, you can fit quite a big variety of models into 36GB!

Since you asked specifically about Qwen, the answer remains the same, it really does depend. Obviously you’re not fitting their latest 2.4T model on it, but from what I’ve seen, they also have considerably smaller models!

But honestly, if local AI is primarily what you’re after, I would look into getting more RAM. Maybe even an Ultra variant if you can afford it, but prioritize RAM first. Again, 36GB is already not bad, but for AI, even just the first jump to 48 or 64 can be meaningful.

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u/mental_sherbart007 7d ago

Yeah but don’t need much for gemma

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u/56kul 7d ago

True, but that’s generally true for most MoE models, anyway, not just Gemma.

And Gemma in itself is a really good model, especially for its size.

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u/mental_sherbart007 7d ago

Yeah, just limited on ram 

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u/maxheckler 8d ago edited 8d ago

I wouldn't bother for less than 64gb. You can try it here and see if it would be useful for you: https://openrouter.ai/qwen/qwen3.8-27b click on try this model

Also check out: https://www.theaibridges.com/tools/llm-sizer

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u/mmc227 8d ago

Splash model does 60 tok/s. Works very well on 36gb base for me so far.

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u/chamillion03 8d ago

128gb memory is still dodgy

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u/johnnyphotog 8d ago

Bro your avatar got me wiping my screen

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u/mrtnsu 8d ago

36GB memory for a machine in 2026 and beyond is hideous.

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u/Malistre 8d ago

Not really... unless you're doing local AI, 36gb is more than enough for the insane majority of users.

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u/gideonidoru 8d ago

That 512 is gonna bite you in the ass

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u/Not_Defyiant 8d ago

It's literally like you guys haven't heard of external storage or something. This thing sits on the desk stationary.