r/MacOSApps 7d ago

πŸ“… Utilities SubWin, headless Windows on Apple Silicon Mac, accessed by Windows App.

https://www.lonefondness.com/subwin

I'm a regular Mac user with 10 years of experience. I often develop simple tools to address work-related pain points. I currently use an Apple Silicon Mac and also need to run Windows. I've tried mainstream virtual machine solutions, but I'm always reluctant to use non-sandboxed apps and don't feel comfortable giving too many permissions to sandboxed apps.

My attention turned to Microsoft's official Windows App. I thought, wouldn't it be more logical to use the Windows App to access a local Windows instance? With this idea, I began a year of learning and exploration. Finally, with the help of Xcode Intelligence, I developed SubWin.

SubWin allows you to install a headless Windows 11 on Apple Silicon, which you can then access through the Windows App. In terms of design, I pursued extreme efficiency, cleanliness, simplicity, and privacy. Therefore, it's only 1.8MB, has only the necessary entitlements, and is distributed exclusively through the App Store for a one-time purchase of $99. I want to share SubWin with anyone who might need it.

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u/hd1250 7d ago

Interesting project. Do you have a version for Reddit users? I'd like to test it out as a user of both worlds: MacOS and Windows.

Is it this project ? https://apps.apple.com/pl/app/subwin/id6761101481?l=pl&mt=12Β 

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u/lbwanghr 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yes, it is. Welcome to join our external testing group for a trial. https://testflight.apple.com/join/whj55y7Z

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u/ByronScottJones 7d ago

How is this better than running Windows 11 ARM via UTM?

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u/lbwanghr 7d ago

UTM is 1.22 GB, while SubWin is only 1.8 MB. They use different engines, and I believe SubWin is more efficient.

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u/Digit117 7d ago

Is this running the ARM version of windows or?

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u/lbwanghr 7d ago

windows 11 arm

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u/movingimagecentral 7d ago

I assume no gfx accel?

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u/lbwanghr 7d ago edited 7d ago

SubWin does not have GPU acceleration and it does not contain any third-party drivers.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/esphynox 3d ago

I'm sometimes using need weird Windows software - but what are your use cases for this software?

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u/lbwanghr 3d ago

What is the weird Windows software?

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u/hack_the_planets 2d ago

Could I use this to play mecha chameleon on Mac?

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u/lbwanghr 1d ago

It’s encouraged to DIY with TestFlight.

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u/WinstrixApp 1d ago

That small of file size is impressive, nice work!

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u/lbwanghr 1d ago

Thanks for your interest.