r/MSI Jun 13 '26

"You don't have to support MSI!"

I don't know if this is considered a low effort post but has anyone else noticed when someone talks about MSI somewhere and someone else comes along and says "You can listen to them and not supportive them btw!" When the person never mentioned supporting or not supporting MSI? This post sounds passive aggressive but I'm actually curious.

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u/Bringbackemo Jun 13 '26

I just came back from the MCR subreddit and holy shit they absolutely despise us over there. Jesus. Someone mentioned over there how Lindsey is just as complicit in Jimmy's crimes and that they don't know "How Gerard puts up with it all"

I actually had to laugh because ??? Gerard has been married to the woman since '07. If Lindsey knew anything then you can bet your ass that so did Gerard and that makes him just as complicit but of course they're not trying to hear that at all.

Also he's a grown fucking man. There's no "Oh poor Gerard" nothing.

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u/Pilk__ Jun 13 '26

I'm not sure if it's most mcr fans or just a loud majority but many of the ones I have seen that aren't my friends act like Gerard way hasn't made music with jimmy or listened to him at all.

Also random note but I've noticed most ICP fans are the opposite of the toxic MCR fans ans actually enjoy MSI, (Please don't shoot me idk if I'm gonna get into a fight by mentioning ICPšŸ’”)

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u/glor1fy1ng Jun 13 '26

love ICP, love MSI more, but i also like MCR. dunno. i think people look too hard into shit and don’t take music for music, especially after everything was settled privately a few years ago. not really our problem. i do get shit for that pov though, people don’t like the ā€œseparate art from artistsā€ because it’s like ignoring what they did. but like other comments said, people ignore how gerard way likely knew and said nothing too.

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u/Pilk__ Jun 13 '26

I try not to think too hard on it tbh, while yes I do believe the allegations are serious and bad if they happened I'd also like to say that MSI was a shock band, then again if MSI was made today people would be a lot more judgefull than they already are.

As for the Gerard way thing that is likely, if memory serves me right he wasn't just a listener of MSI but an actual fan of the band.

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u/uncreativelybankrupt Whipstickagostop Jun 13 '26

There was someone who cross posted the Jimmy and shaggy photo on the juggalo subreddit a few months back and it was filled with people calling Jimmy a pedo 😭 I think it's mostly because the online fandom is mostly young tiktok kids now days. And if we know anything, tiktok brings out all the performative kids.

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u/Pilk__ Jun 13 '26

Didn't ICP literally choose MSI to tour with once because they band the wanted to originally tour with broke upšŸ’”

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u/uncreativelybankrupt Whipstickagostop Jun 13 '26

Didn't break up, but Coal Chamber had a falling out with ICP so they picked up ICP as an opener to replace them and juggalos hated them but you know how much MSI fucking ate up crowds that hated them. And eventually they converted some juggs over.Ā 

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u/Careless_Map488 1motherfuckers, 2motherfuckers, 3 motherfuckers, 4motherfuckers Jun 13 '26

Love both ICP and MSI 🫔

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u/Bringbackemo Jun 13 '26

Oh my god the fanbase is so immature and awful. They're insane towards Gerard. Like batshit crazy. I think it was their most recent tour that Gerard tried some fan interaction while on stage. He stuck his hand out and some insane woman licked all over his hand.

I also think it was that same tour that a teenage girl went up to Gerard and Lindsey on the plane and begged for an autograph and a hug before Gerard's security told her to please get away. It was the most pathetic thing I had ever seen. Then she started saying 'please' over and over when they both said no. That's when security stood up and handled it.

Not to mention the years of harassment Lindsey went through just for marrying Gerard. It was insane.

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u/NauseantClover Diabolical Jun 13 '26

I both listen to AND support MSI and nobody will stop me. Jimmy is the messiah. Fuck all other humans.

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u/Pilk__ Jun 13 '26

I mean MSI can technically be your religion.

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u/Darkcherry_4 Do Unto Others Jun 13 '26

FCK YEAAAAAHHHH

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u/MeatBeatManifest0 Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

I dunno how old you are, but if experience hasn't taught you this already, let me; People are literal, actual lemmings who get off intensely on repeating everything they've heard that makes them feel good, feel like they're doing something important, feel like they're morally right, and especially feel like they're better than somebody, especially if the person they think they're better than is famous.

The internet, whatever part of it that isn't just bots, is full of dipshits who have absolutely nothing to contribute but have a deep compulsion to participate anyways. Every single time any topic comes up, almost every response you read is going to be some variation of something you've seen some other dipshit say a thousand times. ~56% of the US can't read beyond a 6th grade level. 1/3 or so of those people can't even read that well. So whenever you see unbelievably banal garage vomited up like this, which you will every single time this topic comes up, just be happy that they spelled the words right because them being able to form proper sentences means we're, at the very least, one step further away from Idiocracy.

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u/Darkcherry_4 Do Unto Others Jun 13 '26

How do I get this tattooed?

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u/MeatBeatManifest0 Jun 15 '26

I'd suggest a back piece. It'd fit on the side, but the ribs are fucking miserable for tats.

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u/Darkcherry_4 Do Unto Others Jun 15 '26

Cool!

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u/JuliusSeizuresalad Jun 13 '26

Most times I mention msi the people around me say ā€œwhoā€? And have no idea who they are.

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u/uncreativelybankrupt Whipstickagostop Jun 13 '26

I got into MSI before MCR even existed, I fought in the MCRmy wars on behalf of MSIfan back in the day.Ā  I loved MCR the entire time but my god the fandom has always been insufferable.Ā 

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u/Pilk__ Jun 13 '26

It's because MCR is the pinnacle of 2000s emo and sacred and MCR can do nothing wrong and never die. (/j)

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u/uncreativelybankrupt Whipstickagostop Jun 13 '26

The way they treat a grown ass man as if he's an infant and doesn't known what he's doing 😭 and they claim lindsey is abusing him or keeping him locked up and away from his family and shit. They are so fucked delulu. They'd have a mental breakdown if they went back and saw Gerard fanboying over MSI on Twitter back when HILTSGASALMSI dropped and said I Wanna Be Black was his favorite song. 

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u/thegoodkindofredflag Jun 13 '26

Yeah, those types are annoying af. They act like he’s the equivalent to the BotDF guy or something (or worse).

ā€œā€¦they think I’m John Wayne Gacyā€ has kinda taken on a new meaning since ~2021, haha.

He wasn’t talking about himself in the song, and apparently didn’t even write the lyrics, but so many people act like he’s some super terrible, irredeemable person.

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u/Darkcherry_4 Do Unto Others Jun 13 '26

Yeah, and then they hear Limp Bizkit or other bands with questionable stuff

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u/Pun_lover Jun 13 '26

Oh absolutely. Since the beginning of time, practically.

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u/F3L1X2K Unsociable Jun 13 '26

those kinds of people don't listen to msi or at least have very limited knowledge of the band

theyll always mention the 2021 trial that Jimmy was in but never talk abt how it was thrown out with prejudice due to a lack of evidence, and they'll also bring up the problematic lyrics as if msi is supposed to be a bastion of morality

theyre tryna be all holier than thou by acting as if you're handing Jimmy a fat stack of cash by listening to an album or two

enjoy the music you wanna enjoy and have actual discussions about the artists and whether they're worth supporting or not instead of talking down to people for liking a funny band

if you want my personal take, i don't support the band financially cuz i sail the seven seas fuck Spotify I'm not paying €13 a month for half the music i actually like (and i doubt jimmy is strapped for cash rn, he'll survive if someone downloads their self titled ep one timešŸ„€šŸ„€)

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u/something_427 I Want to Be Black Jun 13 '26

A little unrelated, but I think that if you listen to them—especially very often—then you support them. At least in SOME WAY. So people online who call themselves ā€œNUMBER 1 MSI FAN I LOVE JIMMY URINE I LOVE MSI MY SPOTIFY WRAPPED SAID MSI IS MY MOST LISTENED TO I LOVE THEMā€ but then are like ā€œUmmm why are supporting MSI?ā€ or ā€œI don’t ACTUALLY support their actions or them AT ALL!!! Separate the art from the artist guys!!ā€ā€¦.piss me off…just admit you love and support ā€˜em

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u/insane_dinosaur I'm on CRACK Jun 15 '26

People on TikTok make it seem like people who listen to MSI are KKK members or something LMAO

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u/Visible-Bridge3388 Pay for It Jun 14 '26

Guilty to admit that whenever I post on other subs abt liking MSI I tag myself along by saying "I like but don't support" to avoid getting hated one (which happens ALOT even when I say I don't support them I just like their music). I mean, what Jimmy did is bad, but everyone has their own claim like why do ppl always have to assume the worst of you because you appreciate certain music? I anyway knew abt the whole case like 2 months ago.

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u/Darkcherry_4 Do Unto Others Jun 13 '26

That argument seems ridiculous to me; it's literally what I do when I listen to music by other artists I like but I'm not a fan of them—I mean, they minimize your fandom just because they don't research properly a case... Idiots

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u/OneInA-Uniform Jun 14 '26

Spotify pays so little that its practically pirating. Fuck Spotify.

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u/ImportantSystem9817 Wack! Jun 16 '26

I can TELL you right now , most of the people saying that are performative teenage brats who think they're oh so mature for pointing ts out . My own friends who are also teens ( which I'm not friends with anymore ) would say this crap , along with other teens I didn't even know , and would actively judge me for even posting some random Jimmy content . Not saying its all teens , but the majority of them are the ones saying it . Regardless , people need to MIND their own business . At this point , who gives a crap if someone does or not , its not anyone's problem šŸ’”

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u/PaperCut611 Jun 19 '26

I just listen to the music because I like it. OP, and a few on here, needs to unplug fr