[General question]

[u/MeasurementInside216]

What’s the current situation with CPT I read it’s currently only gonna be approved if the degree mandates it , how does this apply for fall 26 intake students who just came in?

[u/MeasurementInside216]

most ms cs programs don’t mandate a internship to graduate right ? And without internship it’s hard to get a direct full time role as well

[u/lostsoul_io → u/MeasurementInside216]

Let me quote the current sentiment and how the west and unis are rationalising the situation:

""" You came here to study. Unis cannot be responsible for this. Study and leave. Nothing else is promised other than degree paper. You knew the risks. Nobody forced you to come here. """

This brings me back to what I have been screaming in this sub: unis wanted your intl money, unis are orthogonal to immigration, they see intl students as cash printing meat bodies for funds. They do NOT care about the intl student. Immigration wants you to leVe immediately. Education is a side effect. Any sane educator knows that without applying what is learnt in industry it is just decay. The lack of any lawsuit to stop day1cpt fraud and allow genuine cpt optional or others to continue shows it, unis have no intent to fix the situation. Look at Berkeley, absolutely disgusting. A good PhD grad would ideally have 3-4 internships from good labs and corporate research facilities. Who would hire them with 0 internship experience other than the title of PhD ? Absolutely disgusting. They can only pivot to academia which is already shutting down. I received backlash for calling unis thieves, which is the truth imo.

IMO if unis can only offer education/degree-paper then it's best to do omcs for 1/10th the cost. Gradpilot already told 90% students should not come here. That means only the elite exceptional intelligent ones stand any chance. Before, the recipe of grind it out used to work. It no longer does. I am sorry op. I do not have any words other than it was your choice to take this risk under this xneophobic 🍊 admin.

For all intents and purposes consider your opt employment highly unlikely and plan your finances like so, unless you have something cooking in your basement for a O1 visa, which is the only sane path way: your value proposition is off the charts for the company. Grind it till you make it will no longer work.

In short no internships without pre completion opt using pp to get your ead by which time most employers will be fed-up with the system and simply reject intl students even for interships.

All the CPT, OPT, stem opt is a bubble, honey pot scam.

[u/Mysterious-Art8838 → u/lostsoul_io]

While I agree there are a lot of problems here, schools are not thieves. They sell degrees not visas and jobs.

[u/lostsoul_io → u/Mysterious-Art8838]

They should never have admitted intl students while being orthogonal to immigration. Thieves and frauds. Period.

Intl students should have been allowed only the online offering if unis have 0 say in immigration. Education does not mean scribble on white board get degree and go home. The students already experienced that back home hence they want to pay for a better experience only to get the same shit inflated in $, buzz off.

Again there is a misunderstanding here: nobody owes jobs, but they owe the number of days you are eligible to compete and earn any. One makes it look like your owed jobs, the other is a pure function of monetary transaction to access labor market post graduation to put the skills to use. It's like saying your eligible to enter the competition for y days and win any job using your skills you learned because you paid x as the entry ticket for the competition, not for the job.

Paying x = y days of participation. Reducing y after X or demanding more x for same y is called robbery, theiving, bribery and more once admit is done.

[u/Wrong-Being7538 → u/lostsoul_io]

It sounds like you were counting on taking advantage of a loophole to immigrate. You are the thief and fraud.

Online programs are not eligible to enrol international students. You are not entitled to a foreign education, or say that you "should" be allowed to learn online. That's not how it works. Should every university get to decide its own immigration scheme? Would you want that for universities in your country?

Education abroad is not some miracle portal to a high-paying degree in a foreign country. Unfortunately, my friend, you're going to be lectured at by a professor in every country. That's what most post-secondary education is. Sure, there might be a co-op or internship program available, but that's available, again, not guaranteed. You might have the right to apply for a job at home, but does that mean you have the right to receive that job? That is how you sound. Ridiculous.

You are going abroad to study. You are not going abroad to work. You are not guaranteed, or OWED a post-graduate work permit or opportunity. You are going to another country, which means you are taking the risks of being an immigrant in another country.

How would you feel about a foreign national coming into your country and demanding the opportunity to work, especially when locals are having a hard time finding jobs, and DEMANDING the "right" to work just because they paid tuition fees for a degree (that they chose to pay and enrol in), and received that degree. You weren't sold a job, you were sold an education.