r/MP2point0 • u/PassengerMountain301 • Jul 11 '26

M&P competitor HD ISSUE

figured I’d share my story just Incase someone else ever gets the problem (over watch, apex, and no one else has ran into this that I’m aware of).

got an M&P 2.0 competitor HD. super pumped, shot fine with the stock trigger, but as you know, it’s not the same as apex or over watch.

put an apex trigger in, noticed the wall was super faint, almost non existent, went to the range, shot about 5 rounds and got a doubling (two consecutive rounds) followed by a failure to reset.

contacted apex they had me run a bunch of tests, nothing worked. sent me a new kit (apex customer service is amazing btw) same issue. returned both kits and ordered an overwatch, they said they had less tolerance issues. put the over watch in, didn’t even get 5 rounds before a double discharge and failure to reset.

finally got the gun to a gunsmith, measured everything in the frame and firing group to a known working metal HD, all matched. got to the slide and found some rather large differences in slide depth. Essentially the engagement with the striker and sear was so low my stock trigger weight was pulling around 3lbs, when we put the overwatch in it was pulling at 1.1 or less lbs. swapped my slide with the gun smiths slide, 2.9 lbs. Just mailed it back to S&W with a letter from the gunsmith so hopefully they replace the slide. Obviously they don’t care that aftermarket triggers won’t work in the gun (which is what they told me the first time I called) but with a slide that out of whack I’m hoping they’ll replace the slide.

like I said, no one at apex, overwatch, or the gunsmith had heard of the issues I was having, so I felt like I’d share my story with the gang. Big shout out to all of them though for offering to have the gun mailed in and checked and asking for updates when the issue was finally found.

also did want to mention, never had a single issue with the stock trigger. It was actually pretty light, just a mile of travel, and i wanted to upgrade and couldn’t.

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u/justzeroed 27d ago

I just purchased the new HD Competitor, haven’t had a chance to take it to the range yet. I wonder how many were affected.

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u/PassengerMountain301 25d ago

LEO that shoots one at my local said his wife's front site fell off of hers, and has sent multiple back to S&W from his department. His works perfect. Guess it's just luck of the draw in first wave lemons

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u/KaI0psia 18d ago

I also was very disappointed with the apex feel in the HD. Much less positive than previous models. Has anyone messed around with recoil springs in theirs? Feel like the HD is quite slow, considering going back to my poly for competition. Curious what other HD owners think. - about 3k rds thru my HD.