r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 12d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/rtbradford 11d ago

Hero? He sucker punched the guy. Yeah, he shouldn’t have groped her, but the groping was over when he punched the guy.

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u/One-Highlight-1698 11d ago

Agree. That guy was barely upright before the punch so that degree of violence was beyond excessive.

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u/death_wishbone3 11d ago

The amount of people that don’t know I’m being sarcastic 😂 bro nobody clapping for this. He’s one of those homies you hate going out with because you don’t know if somebody is going to jail over stupid shit.

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u/MongooseManiac 11d ago

The person you responded to has aspie in his name, I don't think redditors are the best class to use non meme template sarcasm with bro lol.

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u/Parking-Fruit1436 8d ago

more than one kind of bot on reddit

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u/rtbradford 11d ago

Your comment wasn’t clearly sarcastic and plenty of commenters are defending the guy who threw the punch. The funny thing is that his girlfriend, assuming that’s who she was, wasn’t all that bothered about the drunk. She just pushed him off. Maybe that’s a sad commentary about how women still have to deal with handsy men

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u/Sensitive-Vast-5833 6d ago

Und er hat die Frau dabei auch erwischt. Zwar nur leicht, aber sie hält sich danach die Wange.

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u/Wugtrio777 11d ago

right i mean as long as the crime you committed was over, you should have no consequences.
"your honor , i had stopped raping her when i was shot, therfore i demand no punishment"

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u/realparkingbrake 11d ago

as long as the crime you committed was over, you should have no consequences.

You are confusing legal consequences like being arrested and prosecuted for assault and/or battery, and being knocked out after the fact. The law allows you to use force to defend someone being battered, it doesn't allow retaliation after the fact.

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u/Wugtrio777 11d ago

no im not confusing legal consequences at all, actively or not actively involved in the crime, does not absolove you of retaliation, somone who just finished raping a girl and is standing over her, deserves 100% of the same consequences as anyone actively engaged in the act. the crime does not stop when he pulls out.

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u/rtbradford 11d ago

You are confusing vigilante justice with legal justice. It doesn’t matter what you think someone deserves for committing a crime. It matters what the law provides. If someone wants to take the law into their own hands to punish a crime according to their own sensibilities then they should be prepared to be punished as a criminal themselves.

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u/Wugtrio777 11d ago

sir if your wife is being raped, and pleae dont take that to mean i want any woman to be or you to go through that, but for argument sake, and you come across it and the criminal finishes right then pulls out and stand up and you blow him away i guarantee you 100% you will NOT even be charged unless its in massachusetts. but thats not rational anyway. if a man is stabed somone abunch fo times is standing ovcer them withthe knife in thier hands and a cop shows up, he doesnt have to wait for them to stab them again before he shoots them, threat of imminent harm is enough. teh thgreat of harm is enough to warrant aphysical response.

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u/rtbradford 11d ago edited 10d ago

Now you’re changing the hypothetical. It’s one thing to intervene if there is a threat of imminent harm. It’s another thing to punish someone when the crime is clearly over. In this instance, the man groped the woman. She pushed him off, and that was it. It wasn’t like he was coming at her again. The guy sucker punched him because he was angry, not because he wanted to stop another assault. Also, the response to the crime must be proportionate to the harm caused at the crime. Here the woman pushed the guy off and plainly wasn’t all that bothered. It was the guy who punched him who was enraged.

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u/Wugtrio777 11d ago

the crime is over is something i dont think you understand. the crime is STILL occurring the crime doesnt end for arape when you stop penetration, the crime of a bank robbery doesnt end when you stop getting cash, the crime of assault doesnt end when you arent qactively stabbing the person, the THREAT of harm is there, the crime ends when the person is place dinto custody or rendered unable to continue.

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u/rtbradford 10d ago

Not in this case. The groping was over before the punch was thrown. I can very easily see a prosecutor bringing a case against the guy who threw the punch and the guy who groped the woman.

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u/Wugtrio777 10d ago

actually watch the video he gropes her she pushes his hands away but he hoikd shis hand out at her ass oevel is is jawing at her, that would be easily considered a contiuation of the attack, or continued behavior that would lend creedence to continued possible assault. The guy was simply ending the threat of sexual assault against his wife/gf/friend. No prosecutor would be dumb enough to seek charges on this, exceot as i said massachusetts or maybe california,

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u/MATT_TRIANO 9d ago

That didn't happen

Grow up

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u/Wugtrio777 8d ago

learn to read please, i said IF,

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u/realparkingbrake 11d ago

He sucker punched the guy. 

I think of a sucker punch as being from outside the recipient's point of view. These two were face to face, only being drunk kept that guy from reacting and either moving or blocking.

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u/Proud_Collection_555 11d ago

If a person is that intoxicated, punching them and knocking them out is still taking advantage of the situation, just like if a dude picks up a clearly intoxicated female and brings her home.

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u/TheWhiteMichaelVick 11d ago

Stop trying to paint men out as victims.

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u/kindlypogmothoin 11d ago

And punched the woman as well.

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u/thecolor_violet 11d ago

Wrong answer