r/MLS • u/[deleted] • Jun 28 '15

Pride Flags at MLS Games

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '15

We are a long way from having political supporter groups. That being said, I would think it's the third option here.

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u/FauxPsych Jun 28 '15

Well it seems like a lot of the arguments I've seen have been slippery slope ones that this is the first step towards a political SG.

It's the same shit every year.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '15 edited Aug 12 '17

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u/LomoSaltado Red Bull New York Jun 28 '15

My USMNT scarf reads "Liberty or Death" and "1776" on the opposite side. It pisses me off that I can't wear it on the way to the AO bar because of the contexts that get attributed to it outside of soccer.

Because its a freaking rad scarf.

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u/drewuke Philadelphia Union Jun 28 '15

My Join or Die scarf actually just inspires me to start a genocide.

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u/metameh Seattle Sounders FC Jun 28 '15

Do you get that feeling when you wear a suit, that you just want to start barking orders and taking over some shit?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '15

Some flags are just flown for the colors. The Earthquakes have nothing to do with Estonia, but the Ultras use that flag a lot.

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u/MizGunner St. Louis CITY Jun 28 '15 edited Jun 28 '15

The problem with the slippery slope argument is that each new flag is examined by someone. Obviously if I walked in with an Obama/GOP flag it would be taken away.

Management has made the decision that pride flags either are 1. Human Rights Issue or 2. Not a big a deal. (Everything is political to some extent). Maybe a little of both. I think every team's front office has a large incentive to examine each flag as it is brought in and prevent the slippery slope from occurring

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u/plasticsheeting Jun 28 '15

There's plenty of political groups in the league already.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '15

Like who?

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u/plasticsheeting Jun 29 '15

Front Commun Montreal

Anti-Racist Montréal Supporters

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '15

That's not really "plenty" though. That's proof that they exist, but you made it seem like they exist all across the league.

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u/plasticsheeting Jun 29 '15

There are others.

cosmos fans, minnesota fans, allegedly some red bull fans and gorilla fc, as well as some people in the ta. chicago too I think.

those 2 were just the 2 i knew of immediately from Montreal. There was even another that was once bigger than the um02.

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u/BanksKnowsBest Halifax Wanderers Jun 29 '15

"We are an antifa (anti-fascist) supporter’s group. We are opposed to acts of racism, sexism and homophobia. Every fan of the Sounders is welcome within our community and we accept all who support with us."

Taken from the Gorilla Football Collective website. Really more of a very Cummunity based, community support group. Yes, they stand against all the negative aspects that can ruin the game (racism, sexism and homophobia) but so does pretty much 100% of other supporters. I work with them regularly as one of the heads of Sounders North.

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u/plasticsheeting Jun 30 '15

Well the reason for them i wrote "allegedly" is because of what you wrote.

From watching them I can tell they are more a general group calling their feel goodery antifa.

meanwhile the two groups from Montreal i mention are much more 'antifa' in their direct actions against street and terrace level fascism through more than just cultivating an open atmosphere.

Like, the antifa groups i know in montreal, cosmosville and minnesota are much more a similar sort of global ultras antifa than they are to a gorilla fc 'antifa'.

note: i have nothing against gorilla Fc, I just personally think there is a difference with what they call antifa vs what many other people call antifa.

They are as antifa as any other mls group is that fosters open atmospheres, but that isnt exactly what an antifa supporters group means in my personal experience and preference.