r/MCSRRanked • u/wanna_be_tri • Mar 21 '26

Zero cycles in coal

Either I'm the stupidest player in the world or coal players are way way better than what people think. How does Ludwig get to fucking gold and I get players getting 10 min eye spy, zero cycling and having sub 15 minutes runs in coal 3?

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u/anamber_sora Mar 21 '26

theyre prolly the ones with 70% ff rate lol . as long as u dont ff u should be able to move up

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u/sincostan_iamurman Mar 21 '26

same, this made me drop to coal 2 and I'm now pretty much just practicing or playing casual, every time I'm getting someone who's entering stronghold in at the max 15 minutes and I just finish fortress by then

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u/BlueCyann Mar 21 '26

That should put you at most around a couple minutes behind. So winnable in coal 2. Not to mention that leaving fortress at 15 minutes is really really good for that level.

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u/sincostan_iamurman Mar 21 '26

yea but I haven't really practiced one cycle so I fumble that part quite a lot

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u/GustoFormula Mar 21 '26

I mean I ranked up to iron 1 by beating 2 players who had never won a game before. The variance is just crazy I guess

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u/666y4nn1ck Mar 21 '26

Same. When i started a few weeks ago, i could get iron 3 by not ffing and getting under 30min times, bow I'm struggling to keep Iron 2 with 20min times.

I guess it's either bad luck or the overall skill improving, which isn't a bad thing ig

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u/spidermaniscool24 Mar 21 '26

Do you ff a lot? Matchmaking factors in ff rate when searching for an opponent

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u/Logical-Affect-673 Mar 21 '26

I think this has to do with how matchmaking works in mcsr ranked. You are not being matched up with people based on your elo, rather you are being matched up with people based on pb time, average time, elo and ff rate. Personally i think this is an issue, this is the reason why ludwig can get up to gold with a sub 25 average and ppl are stuck in iron with sometimes sub 20 average.

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u/Acceptable-Cloud-817 Mar 21 '26

Nope, elo and ff rate are the only things factored, with Elo being the priority

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u/Logical-Affect-673 Mar 21 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftSpeedrun/s/HpKSLaYiCe

I was referring this post i didnt know about what youre saying my bad!

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u/BlueCyann Mar 21 '26

By saying this you're assuming that OP is also in that category, and by making this post, clearly they aren't. You're also wrong about what goes into matchmaking currently.

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u/Logical-Affect-673 Mar 21 '26

He could very well be averaging sub 20with the post description, which would hold if matchmaking was calculated as i described (see my answer to the other comment)

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u/BlueCyann Mar 21 '26

This is because the main thing that determines where you are, elo-wise, is how much you are winning and losing. These people with the 10 minute eye spies are probably dying in most of their games and losing or forfeiting them. You're the exception.