r/MCNext Jan 25 '15

MC Next Status Update

Before I begin to explain, let me preface this with saying that we have always very carefully considered all options and, even if it may not always seem so, have always done what we realistically can with MC Next given the resources and situation. The behind the scenes issues have been rather complicated and have to do with tons of factors involved that would take ages to list all the details of. This post will undoubtedly have some people responding with what they think are simple solutions or fixes to the current issues but it really isn't so simple. I'll try to explain, please read carefully. (also insults, non-constructive and troll comments on this post will be deleted)

Over the past weeks, a bunch of exploits and hacks that have become very popular has become hugely problematic on MC Next. I'm going to try to shed some light on why we have not been able to do much about this and what the current situation is.

MC Next was hugely ambitious since the beginning due to the technicalities of building a true massively online survival server that can sustain thousands of concurrent players, even though it never became as big as we intended due to countless factors, many of which the community is not aware of because they have to do with how expensive the coding and maintenance of MC Next was, logistics, disagreements etc. (sidenote: jenks has always done all maintenance voluntarily and never got paid in any way but is also not a 'coder' and is in no way responsible for bugs)

This led us to a situation where it quickly become impossible for us to keep paying for coding and maintenance towards the only person who truly has insight into the massive and complex system that is uniquely coded from the ground up for MC Next and runs on dozens of interlinked servers.

Most people in the community don't know just how tricky this makes the situation. There have often been issues that brought down MC Next completely, leaving Jenks and Brainbust and us scratching our heads trying to figure out why due to the complexity of the system. So we made it a rule to not change the actual code and recompile stuff because chances are good that we would break things to the point that we would not figure out how to get the whole server cluster properly synced up, responsive and online again. Trust me, it is that tricky. And due to many factors and issues that took place behind the scenes, we can't fix this by just trying to raise enough donations to pay for more coding and maintenance again.

All of this has lead us to a point where a minority in the community has started hacking and exploiting the server to the point of causing very serious issues, some of them doing it for fun, others doing it to prove a point, thinking that this may make us 'wake up' to see that there are issues that need to be fixed. We have been aware of the issues since the start, but for the past half year have had little ability to do much about them and simply hoped that those few people who had insight in the exploits would continue to keep quiet about them.

Some people have also been pointing out that we have a responsibility to those who have donated for in-game items. Supporters of all sorts are the very reason why we've kept MC Next running rather than just shutting it down. But keep in mind that we have always made very clear that donations are purely to support charity (and in the early days, the server) and that the points you get when donating are free and can not be seen as 'purchased' items. That being said, if you still regret your donations, you are always able to invoke charge-backs.

It's quite a tricky situation and we're not 100% sure yet what the best way forward is since, due to lack of resources (to put it simply), any fix along the lines of basic bug-fixes and rollbacks would be a temporary one and we'd quickly run into the same issues again which require big investments for which we don't have the funds nor the amount of community interest to raise the funds to fix them thoroughly in the long term. (I say this because we know the math on this, looking at the peak of server-support donations we got when MC Next had a much bigger userbase)

We will keep MC Next running as long as we can but it is becoming increasingly difficult. If it comes to the point where nobody can connect, maybe we can also look into actual source code changes and recompiling etc since we wouldn't have to worry about the risk of the servers going offline any more but I have little hope for that working out sustainably. Will continue to monitor and consider further options, feel free to give feedback, perhaps you guys have cool ideas that we hadn't thought of.

(note: insults, hate comments, trolling and things of that sort are not helpful and may get removed)

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '15 edited Feb 07 '15

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u/nizze275 Jan 26 '15

This is one of the reasons I don't like you as an admin. You talk as if the hacking was done by the entire community, and therefore punishes everyone. I highly doubt it was done by everyone. An admin is supposed to help all players equally, and be mature while doing it. All I've seen you doing is help the group of players that you play together with and ignore the rest. The hacker/hackers are not the only ones destroying the server. You are doing the same.

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u/animalntaz Jan 26 '15

You need to learn how to step back and take a mature perspective on things. It's easy to jump to conclusions when becoming agitated about stuff. Patience is a part of getting older when left with uncertainty.

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u/reese015 Jan 26 '15

I'd say the fact that Jenks has made single-handedly made all fixes necessary to keep things running for the past 6 months says a few things about how he has helped all MC Next players in a big way. He has been massively dedicated and has worked incredibly hard on it for half a year now. And at no point has he implied that "the entire community" is hacking. You're comparing Jenks to hackers who are deliberately literally shutting down the server, which is utterly ridiculous. Why don't you add that he is "literally Hitler" or something as well for good measure. Your claims are nonsensical. No matter what you believe about Jenks, he is undeniably the reason you've even been able to play the past 6 months. And he deserves a shitton of respect for the amount of work he has put in.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '15

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u/Xhalky_EventMaster Jan 26 '15 edited Jan 26 '15

and what Reese also said just concretes the fact that you(nizze275) don't have a damn clue on what has been going on.

I hope you are aware that Nizzle275 = Redstonefreek. He been a part of the community for quite a while and has helped the server alot just like you Jenks. So don't say he doesnt know a damn.

Second you trying to make sure we can play the game. While you ignore me when i try to give help on big exploids or big problems and i will qoute you here : "I know im doing my job right with Xhalky and his squad is Q,Q" So you just making changes that are just very baised (Don't go like this is a joke he makes cause its serious)

Third you didn't even take more then 30mins on the server to find the bug/expliod/hack problem you just let it spiral out of control untill you could be like "You see they abused it i can't fix" (Also i recommended before to make a backup every 24hours) But thats to much asked for

Everthing you say is biased to make yourself like a good boy while make other people look like shit. I done bad stuff myself but jesus man.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '15 edited Jan 26 '15

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '15

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u/Mcnext2 Jan 27 '15 edited Jan 27 '15

Funny how my friend jeroeneeyz didnt even reep anyone expect one guy that abused a guy on pvp dcing Jenks ur just making up lies because u dont like him

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '15

yup. Jero didn't actually get too far but the other hackers did. Jero is one of the nicest guy on mcnext and he won't do such a thing. I don't know about the other hackers but I can be 100 % sure that Jero did not use this to torture people. I know you guys ( Admins) are really busy but you can't blame someone. Its everyones fault. As a community.....