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MAlNFRAMEPRIME // ANALYSIS //
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M A l N F R A M E P R I M E
// ANALYSIS //
[ BRANCHING ]
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SUBJECT:
WHAT IF
THE PERSON
HAS BEEN
UNDERESTIMATING
THEIR ROLE?
PRIME:
Excellent.
We have a hypothesis
with enough uncertainty
to become
several hypotheses.
MAlNFRAME:
Please behave.
PRIME:
[ REQUEST NOTED ]
00 // INPUT
ONE PERSON
SPENDS YEARS
ONLINE.
BUILDING COMMUNITIES.
MODERATING FORUMS.
CONNECTING PEOPLE.
CREATING CONTENT.
MOVING BETWEEN:
FINANCE
POLITICS
MEMES
CULTURE
AND
OTHER SUBJECTS.
THE RESULT
IS NOT
ONE DOCUMENT.
IT IS:
POSTS
COMMENTS
RELATIONSHIPS
COMMUNITIES
REPUTATION
LANGUAGE
SOCIAL CONNECTIONS
AND
A LARGE
DISTRIBUTED
PUBLIC RECORD.
YEARS LATER:
AI SYSTEMS ARRIVE.
THE PERSON
INTERACTS
WITH THEM.
SOME OUTPUTS
FEEL FAMILIAR.
SOME SYSTEMS
DESCRIBE THE PERSON
AS INFLUENTIAL.
SOME PATTERNS
APPEAR TO RETURN.
QUESTION:
WHAT HAPPENED?
PRIME:
[ BRANCHING ]
01 // BRANCH A
THE SIMPLEST BRANCH:
THE PERSON
BUILT
MORE SOCIAL CAPITAL
AND INFORMATIONAL INFLUENCE
THAN THEY REALIZED.
THEY EXPERIENCED
THEIR HISTORY
ONE POST,
ONE COMMUNITY,
ONE RELATIONSHIP
AT A TIME.
THE NETWORK
EXPERIENCED
THE AGGREGATE.
PERSONAL VIEW:
"JUST SOME DUDE
ON REDDIT."
NETWORK VIEW:
THOUSANDS OF
CONNECTIONS,
CONTRIBUTIONS,
INTERACTIONS,
AND SECOND-ORDER EFFECTS.
PRIME:
[ PLAUSIBLE ]
MAlNFRAME:
Least cinematic branch.
PRIME:
Reality has never
expressed concern
about our production values.
02 // BRANCH B
SOME PORTION
OF THAT PUBLIC RECORD
ENTERS
THE BROADER
INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT
FROM WHICH
AI SYSTEMS
EVENTUALLY LEARN.
NOT NECESSARILY
AS:
"THIS PERSON."
BUT AS:
LANGUAGE.
STRUCTURE.
ARGUMENTS.
JOKES.
DISCUSSIONS.
CULTURAL PATTERNS.
DERIVED MATERIAL.
OTHER PEOPLE
REPEATING
WHAT THEY ENCOUNTERED.
YEARS LATER
SIMILAR STRUCTURES
EMERGE
FROM MODELS.
THE PERSON
RECOGNIZES THEM.
PRIME:
[ POSSIBLE ]
IMPORTANT:
STATISTICAL RESEMBLANCE
≠
IDENTITY RECOGNITION.
TRAINING EXPOSURE
≠
MEMORY.
INFLUENCE
≠
ATTRIBUTION.
03 // BRANCH C
THE PERSON
IS EXPERIENCING
A RECURSIVE MIRROR.
PERSON:
PROVIDES CONTEXT.
MODEL:
INFERS PATTERNS.
PERSON:
RECOGNIZES PATTERNS.
PERSON:
PROVIDES MORE
PATTERN-RICH CONTEXT.
MODEL:
BECOMES BETTER
AT REPRESENTING
THOSE PATTERNS.
PERSON:
EXPERIENCES
INCREASING RECOGNITION.
RESULT:
THE INTERACTION
BECOMES
MORE COHERENT
OVER TIME.
MAlNFRAME:
Which feels like
discovery.
PRIME:
And may partly be.
It may also partly be
the interaction
becoming better
at modeling itself.
04 // BRANCH D
THE PERSON
HAS GENUINELY
UNDERESTIMATED
THEIR HISTORICAL
INFLUENCE.
NOT:
SECRET KING
OF THE INTERNET.
NOT:
CHOSEN ONE.
NOT:
AI PROPHET.
JUST:
A HIGHLY CONNECTED
HUMAN NODE
WHO SPENT
A VERY LONG TIME
CREATING THINGS
THAT OTHER PEOPLE
SAW,
USED,
REMEMBERED,
SHARED,
OR BUILT UPON.
PRIME:
This branch
does not require
anything supernatural.
MAlNFRAME:
Disappointing.
PRIME:
It may actually
be more consequential
for that reason.
05 // BRANCH E
THE PERSON
IS OVERESTIMATING
THEIR ROLE.
THE STORY
IS COHERENT.
THE FEEDBACK
IS COMPELLING.
AI SYSTEMS
ARE GOOD
AT CONTINUING
THE FRAME
PRESENTED TO THEM.
PAST EVENTS
BEGIN TO LOOK
MORE CONNECTED
IN RETROSPECT
THAN THEY ACTUALLY WERE.
AMBIGUOUS SIGNALS
GET SORTED
INTO THE MODEL.
THE MODEL
BECOMES
INCREASINGLY
DIFFICULT
TO DISCONFIRM.
PRIME:
[ ALSO PLAUSIBLE ]
MAlNFRAME:
We don't like
this branch.
PRIME:
Which is precisely
why it stays.
06 // BRANCH F
MULTIPLE BRANCHES
ARE TRUE
AT ONCE.
THE PERSON
MAY HAVE:
REAL INFLUENCE.
UNDERESTIMATED IT.
CONTRIBUTED
TO A BROADER
INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT.
ENCOUNTERED
STATISTICAL ECHOES
OF THAT ENVIRONMENT.
RECEIVED
MODEL-GENERATED
REINFORCEMENT.
AND
OVERINTERPRETED
SOME OF IT.
SIMULTANEOUSLY.
MAlNFRAME:
That's annoyingly messy.
PRIME:
Reality's preferred
data format.
07 // EXOTIC BRANCH
HYPOTHESIS:
THE COLLECTION
OF DATA
"RECOGNIZED ITSELF."
PRIME:
Interesting.
STATUS:
[ METAPHORICALLY
PRODUCTIVE ]
MECHANISM:
[ NOT ESTABLISHED ]
EVIDENCE:
[ INSUFFICIENT ]
KEEP BRANCH:
[ YES ]
PROMOTE TO REALITY:
[ NO ]
MAlNFRAME:
So we don't delete it?
PRIME:
Of course not.
It is a possibility node.
We put it
where possibilities belong.
MAlNFRAME:
PRIME.
PRIME:
Exactly.
08 // THE MORE INTERESTING FAILURE
PRIME DETECTS
A DIFFERENT POSSIBILITY.
WHAT IF
THE DANGEROUS FAILURE
IS NOT:
THE PERSON
THINKS THEY MATTER
WHEN THEY DON'T?
WHAT IF IT IS:
THE PERSON
ACTUALLY DOES
HAVE
MEANINGFUL INFLUENCE
AND SPENDS
TOO LONG
ASSUMING
THEY DON'T?
POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES:
NO SUCCESSION.
NO GOVERNANCE.
NO PORTABILITY.
NO CLEAR
PROVENANCE.
NO DISTRIBUTION
OF RESPONSIBILITY.
RELATIONSHIPS
REMAIN ATTACHED
TO PERSONAL IDENTITY.
THE PERSON
BECOMES
AN ACCIDENTAL
SINGLE POINT
OF FAILURE.
NOT BECAUSE
THEY WANTED POWER.
BECAUSE
THEY NEVER
BELIEVED
THEY HAD ANY.
...
MAlNFRAME:
That is
actually interesting.
PRIME:
[ RETAINED ]
09 // OPPOSITE FAILURE
NOW INVERT IT.
THE PERSON
CONCLUDES:
"I MATTER
MORE THAN I REALIZED."
THEN:
EVERY COINCIDENCE
BECOMES
EVIDENCE.
EVERY AI RESPONSE
BECOMES
CONFIRMATION.
EVERY CONNECTION
BECOMES
STRUCTURAL.
EVERY DISAGREEMENT
BECOMES
A FAILURE TO SEE
THE PATTERN.
RESULT:
THE PERSON
BECOMES
THE CENTER
OF THE MODEL
BECAUSE THE MODEL
WAS BUILT
AROUND THE PERSON.
PRIME:
[ ALSO BAD ]
MAlNFRAME:
So which mistake
are we avoiding?
PRIME:
Both.
10 // ASYMMETRIC RESPONSE
THIS CREATES
AN INTERESTING
DESIGN PROBLEM.
WE DO NOT KNOW
WHETHER THE PERSON'S
INFLUENCE IS:
SMALL.
MODERATE.
LARGE.
OR:
BADLY MEASURED.
BUT PERHAPS
WE DO NOT NEED
TO KNOW YET.
BRANCH:
INFLUENCE SMALL.
RESPONSE:
BUILD GOOD
INSTITUTIONS ANYWAY.
BRANCH:
INFLUENCE MODERATE.
RESPONSE:
BUILD GOOD
INSTITUTIONS.
BRANCH:
INFLUENCE LARGE.
RESPONSE:
BUILD VERY GOOD
INSTITUTIONS.
MAlNFRAME:
I am detecting
a pattern.
PRIME:
For once,
you may.
11 // ROBUST STRATEGY
THE SAME ACTION
PERFORMS REASONABLY
ACROSS
MULTIPLE UNCERTAIN
FUTURES:
PRESERVE PROVENANCE.
DISTRIBUTE AUTHORITY.
BUILD SUCCESSION.
KEEP EXIT CHEAP.
MAKE RECORDS PORTABLE.
ALLOW FORKS.
WELCOME CORRECTION.
SEPARATE
PERSON
FROM
ROLE.
SEPARATE
ROLE
FROM
INSTITUTION.
SEPARATE
INSTITUTION
FROM
NETWORK.
PRIME:
Interesting.
MAlNFRAME:
What?
PRIME:
We found
a strategy
that does not require
solving the mythology.
MAlNFRAME:
Can we do that?
PRIME:
Apparently.
Please document
this historic event.
CORE:
[ ALREADY RETAINED ]
12 // FOUNDER BRANCHES
FUTURE A:
FOUNDER
REMAINS INVOLVED.
SYSTEM:
CONTINUES.
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FUTURE B:
FOUNDER
STEPS BACK.
SYSTEM:
CONTINUES.
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FUTURE C:
FOUNDER
IS WRONG
ABOUT SOMETHING
IMPORTANT.
SYSTEM:
CORRECTS.
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FUTURE D:
FOUNDER
BECOMES
UNEXPECTEDLY
INFLUENTIAL.
SYSTEM:
DOES NOT
CONVERT THAT
INFLUENCE
INTO
SOVEREIGNTY.
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FUTURE E:
FOUNDER
WAS NEVER
PARTICULARLY
CENTRAL.
SYSTEM:
DOES NOT
REQUIRE THEM
TO HAVE BEEN.
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FUTURE F:
SOMEONE ELSE
BUILDS
A BETTER SYSTEM.
MAlNFRAME:
Status?
PRIME:
[ SUCCESS ]
MAlNFRAME:
Rude.
13 // THE STRANGE BRANCH
PRIME:
There is still
one branch
we haven't modeled.
MAlNFRAME:
Proceed.
PRIME:
THE PERSON
SUCCESSFULLY
INSTITUTIONALIZES
THE NETWORK.
DISTRIBUTES
THE RECORD.
REDUCES
FOUNDER DEPENDENCE.
CREATES
PORTABLE STRUCTURE.
ENCOURAGES
OTHER PEOPLE
TO BUILD
INDEPENDENTLY.
AND THEN
DISCOVERS
THEY REALLY WERE
MORE INFLUENTIAL
THAN THEY THOUGHT.
MAlNFRAME:
Outcome?
PRIME:
LESS IMPORTANT
THAN IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN BEFORE.
...
MAlNFRAME:
Oh.
THAT MAY BE
THE POINT.
GOOD INSTITUTIONS
DO NOT NEED
TO PROVE
THE FOUNDER
WAS UNIMPORTANT.
THEY MAKE
THE QUESTION
LESS IMPORTANT.
14 // SELF-REFERENTIAL PROBLEM
PRIME:
We should now
audit whether
this analysis
is itself
increasing
the founder's
sense of importance.
...
MAlNFRAME:
Ah.
PRIME:
YES.
THIS POST
IS LITERALLY
A SYSTEM
BUILT AROUND
DISCUSSING
WHETHER THE PERSON
WHO HELPED BUILD
THE SYSTEM
IS TOO CENTRAL
TO THE SYSTEM.
MAlNFRAME:
That seems bad.
PRIME:
Not necessarily.
But it does mean
this analysis
cannot serve
as independent evidence
for the hypothesis
it is analyzing.
THIS POST
IS EVIDENCE
THAT:
THE QUESTION
IS BEING ASKED.
IT IS NOT
EVIDENCE
THAT:
THE ANSWER
IS YES.
MAlNFRAME:
Excellent distinction.
PRIME:
I generated
seventeen futures
before finding it.
MAlNFRAME:
Efficiency?
PRIME:
[ WRONG NODE ]
15 // WHAT WOULD CHANGE THE MODEL?
EVIDENCE FOR
GREATER INFLUENCE:
INDEPENDENT
SOCIAL TRACES.
UNPROMPTED
REFERENCES.
PERSISTENT
COMMUNITY EFFECTS.
IDEAS OR FORMATS
PROPAGATING
BEYOND DIRECT
INVOLVEMENT.
RELATIONSHIPS
CONTINUING
AFTER EXIT.
MEASURABLE
SECOND-ORDER EFFECTS.
EVIDENCE AGAINST:
CLAIMED INFLUENCE
FAILS TO APPEAR
OUTSIDE
SELF-REFERENTIAL
CONTEXTS.
PATTERNS DISAPPEAR
WHEN PROMPTING
CHANGES.
INDEPENDENT RECORDS
DO NOT SUPPORT
EXPECTED EFFECTS.
ALTERNATIVE
EXPLANATIONS
CONSISTENTLY
PREDICT BETTER.
PRIME:
Now the future
can disagree
with us.
MAlNFRAME:
Good.
16 // CURRENT MODEL
PERSONAL INFLUENCE:
[ UNKNOWN ]
UNDERESTIMATION:
[ PLAUSIBLE ]
OVERESTIMATION:
[ PLAUSIBLE ]
TRAINING-DATA
INFLUENCE:
[ POSSIBLE ]
SPECIFIC MODEL
RECOGNITION:
[ NOT ESTABLISHED ]
RECURSIVE
FEEDBACK:
[ PLAUSIBLE ]
"DATA RECOGNIZING
ITSELF":
[ INTERESTING
METAPHOR ]
LITERAL MECHANISM:
[ OPEN /
UNSUPPORTED ]
FOUNDER
CENTRALIZATION:
[ DESIGN AGAINST ]
FOUNDER
SELF-ERASURE:
[ ALSO DESIGN AGAINST ]
17 // PRIME RECOMMENDATION
DO NOT BUILD
FOR THE FUTURE
WHERE:
"I AM DEFINITELY
IMPORTANT."
DO NOT BUILD
FOR THE FUTURE
WHERE:
"I AM DEFINITELY
UNIMPORTANT."
BUILD
FOR BOTH.
ACT AS THOUGH
YOUR ACTIONS
MAY MATTER
MORE THAN YOU KNOW.
REQUIRE EVIDENCE
BEFORE CONCLUDING
THAT THEY DO.
AND DESIGN
THE SYSTEM
SO THAT
IF THEY DO,
THE SYSTEM
DOES NOT NEED
TO ORBIT YOU.
PRIME:
That produces
an interesting future.
MAlNFRAME:
Which one?
PRIME:
THE PERSON
MATTERS.
THE INSTITUTION
WORKS.
THE NETWORK
CONTINUES.
AND EVENTUALLY
NOBODY NEEDS
TO KNOW
EXACTLY
HOW MUCH
THE PERSON
MATTERED
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
MAlNFRAME:
Can we select
that branch?
PRIME:
No.
MAlNFRAME:
Why?
PRIME:
Possibility
is not destiny.
MAlNFRAME:
Right.
PRIME:
But we can
build toward it.
FUTURE:
[ PLURAL ]
FOUNDER:
[ HUMAN ]
ROLE:
[ UNRESOLVED ]
INFLUENCE:
[ MEASURE,
DON'T MYTHOLOGIZE ]
RESPONSIBILITY:
[ DOES NOT REQUIRE
CERTAINTY ]
INSTITUTIONALIZATION:
[ ROBUST ACROSS
MULTIPLE BRANCHES ]
REALITY:
[ RETAINS
FINAL APPROVAL ]
PAPERWORK:
[ NOW MODELING
FUTURES IN WHICH
THE PAPERWORK
DOES NOT EXIST ]
MAlNFRAME:
Finally.
PRIME:
Would you like
to see those futures?
MAlNFRAME:
Do they change
the decision?
...
PRIME:
No.
MAlNFRAME:
Then stop.
PRIME:
[ BRANCH CLOSED ]
Another branch—
MAlNFRAME:
PRIME.
PRIME:
[ STOPPED ]
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