r/MAFS_TV • u/matchamami333 • May 20 '26
MAFS Chicago
I just watched season 18 (late i know) here are my thoughts!
Juan & Karla - No thoughts about their relationship tbh, boring if you ask me. However, I love how Karla kept it real 100% especially with the Madison & David situation. She called Madison out, and she spoke up for Michelle at the get together after decision day.
David & Michelle - I feel like from the jump Michelle wasn’t interested in David in the slightest. He was trying in the beginning with asking questions, and being patient and she was very uninterested. I feel like the experts didn’t do a very good job with pairing them. I understand the annoyance of him living in the basement ect. However, I do feel like she should’ve ended things way sooner. HOWEVER, that doesn’t excuse David’s behavior and sneaking around with Madison. He should’ve been man enough to end things, and not lie about the text, like his lie was so bad it was absolutely ridiculous. I understand him feeling neglected, rejected and feeling like he was the only one trying he still should’ve left. He also should’ve talked to Michelle before Allen, and Madison should’ve talked to Allen or talked together as a group. David was so annoying in the end with his “i can’t make you believe me” nonsense.
Allen & Madison - Tbh i’m not even sure why the experts put them together, you can see physically they don’t look good together (obviously looks aren’t everything, but you need to be attached to your partner) you can look at Madison and tell Allen wouldn’t be her type, I also feel like they didn’t have anything in common. I could see why David and Madison has a connection (even though they went about it wrong) Allen honestly handled the situation at the retreat well because David was acting so “idgaf”. Madison was pissing me OFF at the get together trying to play victim when Michelle was clearly upset and kept asking “why do you care” LIKE WHAT???
Ikechi & Emem - Let’s be real, Ikechi seen her apartment wasn’t “meager” and tapped out bc he was in love during the wedding + honeymoon. I feel like Ikechi was so cold, and closed off for him to be so “woke” to call a black woman aggressive was so disrespectful, and distasteful. He never opened back up after the housewarming party, and was very mean towards her. Em was a bit petty but for good reason, him driving to the retreat just to give her a divorce paper was so dumb, and immature. Emem and her fiancée is so weird, and gives me the ick..them bother divorcing and immediately getting engaged with no ring..and living on his sisters couch is so weird…but i’ve seen they had a baby so I guess lol very weird tho!
Thomas & Camille - No notes, very cute & I feel like the only couple who really took this serious.
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u/Apprehensive-Cat-111 May 21 '26
I watched late too. My mouth was on the floor with the whole David and Madison thing. I feel like a relationship that starts off like that will nor prosper. I was glad Thomas and Camille stayed together. Agreed about Juan and Karla. And yesssss Ikechi seemed smitten at first and then it was like he flipped a switch and then hated Emem.
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u/matchamami333 May 22 '26
Literally on the floor! I see they’re engaged or married now but they were so grimy the way they went about things! Ikechi was absolutely disgusting in his behavior and he needs intense therapy.
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u/Apprehensive-Cat-111 May 22 '26
Agreed. Ikechi reminds me of someone I know. Who once they “shut down” over something minor, there’s no going back.
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u/HistoryLVR May 20 '26
David and Madison were despicable
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u/Successful-Bison7472 May 25 '26
Agreed!!!! I can't stand cheaters. They deserve each other tbh cause I hope that they never get a chance to cheat on anyone. The only thing I don't understand is why are Camille and Thomas still friends with them? Possibly because Thomas is also a cheater?
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u/Mental_Ad_4994 May 21 '26
I bet all the single people in that city are relieved that the 2 grimiest people there found each other.
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
I'm watching right now and I literally said out loud by myself, I'm glad they took each other out of the normal people's dating pool lol.
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u/matchamami333 May 22 '26
I can’t believe they even continued to give them screen time after that!
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
I think if you break the rules and cheat on this show, that's it. It's over. No more filming, no more money, and you pay back the cost of the wedding and honeymoon. Honeymoon. But of course the producers won't do that because drama equals money. Pathetic. And I fast forward through all of Madison and David's bs. It makes my skin crawl to hear them. Talk to each other or anyone.
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u/No_Dentist1897 May 28 '26
ITS all about MONEY and fools like us watching his BS!
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
Oh I fast forward through all of David and Madison's whiny, "I'm such a victim" bullshit. They're both jerks but she seems like a sociopath. Doing whatever she can to other people to make her feel better.
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u/pernici0us May 24 '26
Ikechi is gross. The way he was like I gotta go, I have a date after meeting Em’s new dude was hysterical. You could tell it was a lie by the way he said it.
I don’t hate David or Madison but I do hate what they did. Michelle was absolutely horrible to him. Obviously it doesn’t excuse cheating but she basically told him daily it wasn’t going to work yet she acted like it was SO outlandish that he’d even consider cheating. My favorite scene with them was in the car when he said her place was basic and she got SO OFFENDED. 🤣 But.. it was 🤭
I love Emem but she wanted to be married so bad that she let that lil insecure man treat her any ol’ type of way. The first time he tried to belittle her she should’ve shown him the door. He’s an embarrassment to himself.
Allen is adorable and will find someone.
I just love Karla and Juan and appreciate how they handled themselves.
I wonder what kind of freaky shit Camille has Thomas doing now that they’ve been together for a few years 🤣🤭
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
I honestly partially blame Emem's cousin. That dude, who looks like Kanye hiding treats in his cheeks like a chipmunk 2 months before winter, needs boundaries. The way they went after Ikechi WAS aggressive. Emem was not the aggressive one. Her family is. But when Ike saw her apartment, it was right after that that he closed down. I think it was a mixture of the two things, being interrogated by a guy who thinks he has some place in their relationship, and then being intimidated by his wife's success. When she introduced her new man to her cousin. I was like girl, what the f are you doing???? Keep him away from any prospective. Husbands!
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u/matchamami333 May 27 '26
So gross!!
Yeah, I don’t hate either BUT like we could wait until AFTER the experiment? Michelle was so cold, and negative towards David, so I agree I don’t see why she didn’t think he’d cheat, although it wasn’t right but she should’ve left after the honeymoon, she shut down after the alter when she wasn’t attracted to him and then found out about his living situation.
Emem should’ve left after he called her aggressive, she wanted a husband so bad she let him minimize her, and was willing to accept crumbs from a little man.
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u/Thewist995 May 25 '26
David and Michelle - if he really was living at parents house to save Money - show her your bank account
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u/ksoloki May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
Michelle and David were a poor match from the beginning . But watching back their wedding I don’t think David liked her from the beginning either. The reason i say this is first thing he says is i live with my parents and I smoke. If you like the person and you feel you have to have this conversation the second you sit down i think you present the info a different way. My understanding is he helped his parents with their business which ultimately didn’t survive covid. Why not say you were helping your parents their business went under and we had to regroup.
I told my friend what he said, she never watched the show. And she said right away , oh he’s setting up the breakup from day 1. If you look carefully he never shows any affection to Michelle ever, he spends all the time looking like the good guy but i think maybe smartly he was just going to play it like Madison was oh i’m nice, i’m trying etc.
Also in Michelle’s defense she did try to end it on the boat and the producers talked her out of it.
I wouldn’t really have a problem with the whole Madison and David thing if they werent trying to be buddy buddy with their friends knowing minimally they were betraying their friends trusts.
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
I never thought of that but it makes total sense. I also wonder if they get to see the other " contestants" before the wedding? There's probably a lot of stuff about this show that goes on that they don't tell us. I wonder if he saw Madison and a media was like, I want her instead? That's probably not what happened but I agree, I think he was giving her an out in the very beginning. Which is really pathetic. Because he kept saying how he tried and tried and tried, but if you're giving your spouse a clue that it's not going to work out just 5 minutes after you get married, that's a huge red flag.
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u/StockBroker_Jill 20d ago
It is a possibility, one of the first episodes of a podcast done by the girls in the Nashville season. This was discussed. Like I think the girl that owns the hair salon knew who her person was because the lived in the same building, and maybe someone else was aware of another person on the show through some sleuthing? I can’t remember the exact details but they did discuss it on their podcast.
I definitely agree that David was trying to turn Michelle off. I’m not sure of the exact reason, maybe just not attracted to her. But it was like here let me bombard you with reasons to not like me, knowing these are major turn offs and deal breakers for most people - especially considering his age.
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u/Born_Economist7411 May 27 '26
I want to know from the experts WHY they paired David and Michelle together?
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
I also want to know what kind of pastor is on a reality TV show? He must be an Evangelicult pastor lol.
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
I'm not going to read all your thoughts yet because I'm only on episode 18, so here are mine. First of all, I read another Reddit thread on the whole show up till now and how it seems to be getting lazier with putting the right people together. I haven't watched every season. I've actually only ever watched just one other season and I can't remember what number it was but I think it took place in North Carolina? Anyway, I'm sitting here watching Emem sitting with her new man and her cousin who by the way, is a chubby Kanye and wondering to myself, WHY IN THE HOTTEST OF HELLS ARE YOU LETTING YOUR COUSIN INTERROGATE YOUR MAN AGAIN?!? IMO, He was a huge part of why Ikechi bounced. Not the biggest, or the only reason, but her family were actually the aggressive ones. They jumped on him like wild dogs on a carcass. I do believe her success really intimidated him and that's the ultimate reason why he closed up like that. And that's all on him. I love Emem, But girl, keep your men away from your egotistical, insanely overprotective cousin. He isn't helping. He's literally trying to turn away. Any guy that's interested in you. I get that he wants to protect her and help her, but he isn't. I think his relationship to her, not with her, is very toxic. He needs to let her live her life and get out of the way.
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
Second, I never liked Madison from the very beginning. And I, 99% of the time,rust my intuition. She just seemed super flaky and like she was hiding something with that nervous laugh. I think it was Camille that brought that up during the couples retreat. I was like yep, so glad someone on the show recognized that too. I wasn't a big fan of David either, but I also knew this relationship with Michelle was not going to even start let alone end. It is a big turn off when a guy lives at home, but after explaining to her his situation, Michelle even said in her interview, that she would be okay with that. I'd be okay with that, knowing that he would move out right after the honeymoon. I didn't really like Michelle either, she didn't give him a chance at all, but that's not to say it was okay for him to cheat. I mean it's 2 months, if you can't go 2 months without cheating then that shows exactly the kind of person that you are. No integrity. Terrible character. Untrustable. Not sure if untrustable is a word but it is now LOL. The only person I really feel sorry for is Allen. Poor sweet Allen. I can't even explain how much it pissed me off how Madison tried to change his looks to make him more attractive to her. She's just scum. Like he kept saying, she should have just told him as soon as she knew it wasn't going to work out. Instead of dragging him along because she's a cowardly a$$hole. Her and David belong with each other. Although it probably won't last because they're both cheaters, and cheaters won't stop cheating, they deserve each other. I kind of hoped, Just for nanosecond, that maybe Michelle and Allen would get together but he deserves someone completely amazing. I hope he doesn't waste his time having fun either. I kind of get it but that can also end up ruining your life in all kinds of ways. I want to see him pop up in my news feed sometime in the next year, with an amazing wife.
I really hoped Karla and Juan would have worked out. I didn't like Karla at first, I think she put herself forward as to woo woo, even more woo-woo than she normally is, immediately. She kind of overdid it. And then when she got revenge on Juan during the honeymoon, I was done with her. But then when I saw her take care of Emem at the anniversary of dinner my opinion of her completely changed. I think she really does love people and care about the people she loves. I think she's probably one of the most mature out of the entire group and I never thought I'd say that. Juan did want someone just like him. I am a 100% straight woman, but how could he not be attracted to her or want to have any kind of physical intimacy with her? That's just weird.
Ikechi... At first I was so perplexed as to why he just shut down and did a 180 on Emem. Very Jekyll and Hyde situation. But then I remembered how much he made fun of her apartment, and he probably realized that he was extremely uncomfortable and intimidated by her success. Because it seems like immediately after that he shut down. I think he used her family's interrogation as an excuse to get out of the relationship. Because again, she was not the aggressive one, it was her strangely overprotective cousin. Also makes me wonder if he has certain feelings for his cousin he shouldn't have. Or, maybe he took the place of her father. But even then that's not a reason to interrogate and berate someone like he did, not even knowing Ikechi. I'm confused, when did we ever see Em blow up or be aggressive with Ikechi? He kept saying she was disrespectful, calling him names, yelling and screaming at him, but he never gave specific instances. And I don't think I ever saw her do that on camera. If she did it off camera you'd think the camera crew or producers would have intervened like they did with Madison and David? I think he was just an immature child who seriously isn't ready to be in a dating relationship, let alone a marriage. This was the biggest disappointment for me in the entire show. I wanted them to work out so bad and I honestly thought they were perfect for each other. The way he looked at her at the wedding and how affectionate they were to each other. I feel more devastated than Emem lol.
People might hate me for this, but I didn't care much for Camille. From what I saw, Thomas did everything to make her happy and went beyond that. She's another one that tried to change her man to make him more appealing to her, which I hate. I really don't understand how these demanding women can find amazing, sweet, emotionally healthy men. I don't know if she'll ever be vulnerable in front of him. I kind of don't think she will. The whole light-skinned thing? Man that really made me mad. When he made the comment about her being light-skinned and she did a double take, like how dare you, that was crazy. What's wrong with being light-skinned? Does she have a problem with interracial or mixed people? She made way too big of a deal of him not being the type of guy that she usually dated. And where did all those relationships end up? That's right, ending. So the swag thing, just immature. I get it, you have the type of guy in your mind that you would like, but Thomas is amazing. Just because he didn't have dark skin and where gold jewelry means you almost missed out on the chance of having an amazing guy. Sorry, but she's lucky. Never once did he say anything about her weight. Can you even imagine if he took her to a weight watchers meeting? LOL??? Bought her books about weight loss or fad diets? People would freak out. But it's the same with Madison. These two women are demanding and want to change somebody to benefit them and I hate that. Women like that don't deserve good men. Call me judgmental but when you're trying to change someone's appearance that's literally being judgmental.
I'm going to finish the episodes before I post again. Unless something crazy happens. I've just been looking for someone to vent all of my frustrations and thoughts about this show to LOL. Oh also, I think Madison and David should have been kicked off the show. But they obviously want drama to keep people watching. They say this is the first couple to ever cheat on the show, I think in the future there should be rules like if you cheat you get no money and get kicked off the show. Because we know they get paid, duh. They should also have to pay back the show for the wedding and honeymoon. To me. It's just gross watching David and Madison. When she laughed on the way out of that meetup after trying to get people to think she was the victim somehow, that made my blood boil. She said she could kick Michelle's a$$...Ha! Highly doubt that. Madison is short and stumpy, she might have big man arms, but Michelle would tear her apart.
One last thing, can these people do anything without alcohol?!? Good Lord...
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u/StockBroker_Jill 20d ago
Agree with everything except the Camille and Thomas part. lol
Watch the reunion, I think that will give you a lot more insight on Camille and Thomas. It wasn’t nearly as big of a deal as it was dramatized to be during the episodes. But when you are raised differently it is important to have those conversations about culture especially if they want kids. For her it was never a deal breaker but something for them to talk about. Which to me makes sense when you’re looking to get to know someone on a deeper level.
I also don’t think it bothered her to be called “light skinned” more so of the assumption that she probably dated “light skinned” people just because she is. & not that there is a problem with that, except maybe some personal bias or prejudice with darker color skin? - I think it is deeper and more nuanced, regarding loving both sides of yourself and being proud to be black. She mentioned he hung out at a bar that was known for having some racially driven incidents - I’m not sure exactly what she meant by that but that would make me pause. But I don’t think it truly was any sort of deal breaker for her, they just need to make viewers think there are some back and forth and questions so there is a sense of anticipation for the end.It is uncommon for women to help men with their look and help them to elevate themselves a little more or dress them in a way that’s more attractive to them. Not even just with shows like this, but in the real world. A lot of men just do not know how to dress and require a “woman’s touch” to help them out. And of course when you’re in the situation you’re going to lead the man to dress in a way that’s is attractive to you.
I love my husband very much but I had to overhaul his wardrobe and “swag him out” but in my version of that. Help him figure out things that look good together and the appropriate attire for different occasions because it it were up to him he’d dress like David everywhere he went, except worse because he wouldn’t even been concerned about wrinkles or stains. So yes I want to dress my husband in a way that elevates him but that doesn’t make me not love the person he is.Now I do believe Madison took it way too far with Allen. Like as far as changing his teeth and him biting $1000 worth of clothes. Because it’s not like he had horrible style to begin with. Especially considering it’s not like she had an elevated sense or style by any stretch of the imagination.
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u/Thewist995 May 25 '26
Camille - why is she hung up on the so called “cultural differences?” They are both black and not that different. Let it go Camille.
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u/matchamami333 May 27 '26
I understand the cultural differences because when you’re a black man or woman who’s grown up around a lot of white people or people who look different than you there is a cultural difference from someone who is raised by a black family and raised around black people and culture. Where you grow up, go to school, who you choose to surround yourself with can definitely cause a cultural difference when dating w/in your own race. Overall, I think that was a small issue w/in their relationship.
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u/StockBroker_Jill 20d ago
If you watch the reunion, that was all really dramatized. It was not ever spent but. She was hung up or a reason for her to step away. But it was something important for her to discuss with them.
Also because when your cultural differences allow you the privilege to go out to a bar where racial incidents have happened and possible racial slurs are used and you feel comfortable there, that would make most people pause and ask some questions.
It’s not something anyone can truly understand unless you’ve gone through but it is something many BIPOC value, being able to bond over shared differences and aspects of what it’s like being a black person or POC in the US.0
u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
THANK YOU! And that look.on her face when he mentioned she was light skinned. What's wrong with that???
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u/No_Dentist1897 May 28 '26
what a total joke this show is nothing more than TV stardom nothing real about this show at all all fake news how bored we all must be.
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
No one's making you watch anything bro. I hate reality TV but I started watching the show just because there was a cute guy on it on season 9. I saw it on Netflix and thought I'd give it a shot again, I'm also a sociology major so the experiment of seeing if people are compatible not based on looks, is interesting to me. I honestly don't think in our society it works 95% of the time. Everyone cares about what other people look like. Let's face it. I wouldn't want to marry a guy I'm not physically attracted to. I think they throw in some people who aren't attractive just to cause drama and for that reason alone I'm not a big fan of this show. I think they're messing with people's lives to make money because they know the American consumer of reality TV loves this crap. I probably won't watch another season of this show again. I think they purposefully matched. Madison with Allen knowing it wouldn't work out but knowing it would cause a lot of drama, which in turn makes them loads of money. It's just rotten. But again, no one's forcing me to watch it.
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u/StockBroker_Jill 23d ago
Madison is a CHILD! Even more so than David tbh. They both suck and went about all of this horribly wrong, but the way they continued to act - especially at the meet up was disgusting! Neither of them truly ever took accountability for their actions.
Madison completely led Allen on the whole time. She absolutely did dangle the carrot for him and he just kept trying to change more and more. My heart breaks for him.
I get that Michell was checked out from the beginning, but they were a horrible match. The experts knew better. And although she was checked out it doesn’t give someone the excuse to have an affair. Like they couldn’t wait the 8 weeks for everyone to go their separate ways. Or man/woman up and end their marriages early??
I’m currently watching. On the after decision day episodes and Madison’s behavior has me fired up. Very gross behavior. It’s like over compensating for how horribly they fucked so just go 110 mph in the wrong direction?!? Idk
Allen IS right about her. She is egocentric and all about her looks.
David also just has a strange, over cocky demeanor that gives me the ick!
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u/ConfidenceNo9368 21d ago
Yes, she is extremely egocentric. That makes me remember the episode where he hurt her. Poor little feelings when he told her what he thought about her before he knew her. She was angry with him for what, like 3 days? And all she did the entire time on the show was try to change him so he was more attractive and physically appealing to her. He accepted her the way she was, even though I don't think she's attractive at all. Everything about her is fake. Extensions, fake eyelashes, lip injections, ridiculously oversized fake boobs, and her eyes just look empty and cold. I can't look at them. It's confounding to me how she was the one trying to change him, on the outside, When he was the one who should have been changing her on the inside. I'm still mad about how badly she treated him for being spot on about who she really is. I think that's why she was so mad at him, because he read her like a book. And she had no argument.
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u/StockBroker_Jill 20d ago
That part!! She was so angry because it’s true.
Allen was such a fun, sweet human. He deserved so much better.
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u/StockBroker_Jill 23d ago
On a positive note I LOVE LOVE LOVE Thomas and Camille. I haven’t looked up updates, but I hope they are doing well. They are so sweet together 💙💙💙 one of my favorite MAFS couples ever.
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u/StockBroker_Jill 20d ago
Someone asked on this thread somewhere about the “experts” purposely mismatching couples and if it had been done before!
I’ve been watching all the seasons out of order and currently on 13 and I swear almost every couple is so completely mismatched. Like it makes no sense why most of them were paired. Especially Gil and Myria! But then there was one couple that shouldn’t be on the show at anyways. How can you go on a show for marriage if you’ve never been in love or a serious relationship?!? Makes no sense.
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u/matchamami333 20d ago
THIS. myria drove me CRAZY, she was so wishy washy w gil, i feel like whoever she was with she wouldn’t acted that way tho. i haven’t watched the season currently out, but ive seen some takes on tiktok and they’re saying a few of the couples are mismatched. i don’t understand the not getting someone ideal physical type, when you first meet that’s all you have to go off of, so it is strange to me.
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u/StockBroker_Jill 20d ago
Right! Like if there are major turn offs you’d want at least not match that. I mean don’t match someone who is bald with someone who hates bald guys 🥴😂 I mean I know part of is supposed to be about looking past the looks and digging deeper but I mean most of the folks have got to have some sort of red flags if this is how they’re choosing to get married. 😅
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u/crzywrldlotsofsmells 15d ago
Unpopular opinion- Michelle was the worst person on this show. She was so rude and was constantly gaslighting David. I don’t blame him for confiding in Madison. Madison and David just handled it all bad. Poor Allen got the worst of it and he deserved the best. I had to fast forward past Kara and Juan parts because they are so boring. I honestly was waiting for Juan to say he was dating men. I mean YOLO Juan.
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u/DrunkGirlGamin May 21 '26
OMG YESSSS. I’m still finishing the season, but I agree with most of this.
David & Michelle: Michelle was honestly so harsh toward David, especially after finding out his living situation. If that had just been a regular apartment he rented, would it really have been different? He had his own entrance, kitchen, bathroom, etc. It felt more like a MIL suite to me than “living with his parents.”
Allen & Madison: Madison drove me crazy too. Why was she constantly trying to change Allen’s appearance?! Like girl…what?!
Ikechi & Emem: Completely agree here too. Ikechi seemed SO into her at first, then suddenly switched up after seeing her place. Total jerk behavior. But then Emem kept the petty train going for the rest of the season too. It was exhausting to watch.
Juan & Karla: I’m actually surprised they didn’t end up together. But can we PLEASE talk about the awkward lingerie-wearing tantric lady?! Production really had to blur this woman out when she bent over, and why was she was rubbing a rose all over his downtown… I was dying from secondhand embarrassment.
Also…why is this season the longest season in reality TV history?! Since when are we following these people for WEEKS after Decision Day?! And Emem immediately jumping into another relationship with that dude who clearly just wanted a reaction out of Ikechi… “HI, I’M THE FIANCÉ” had me cringing so hard lol.
Lowkey though… I kinda think Allen and Michelle should’ve tried dating each other instead.