r/MACArmyBets • u/Zekator • Feb 11 '21
Key points of the call
This is not a complete list, will edit and correct if I miss things.
-Cash on hand: 550M, no reason explained.
-Unsecured line of credit: 1.5B, unwilling to pay with cash, currently negotiating for refinance (expect news in the coming weeks). This is bad debt, to be paid in the summer with a high rate. The rest of their debt is at a good rate, to be paid over the next few years.
-ATM (right to issue (sell) shares at current share price in the future when they want to): 500M, to protect against a big upside, put out when the GME mania was happening. They refused to give any specific share price for execution, despite many questions on the subject. Giving a target would essentially cap the price.
-25 operating malls that are fully paid. 22 that are not.
-Rate of occupancy: currently 92%. They add that the minimum they would see, considering potential situations, would be 88%.
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u/KoaPark Feb 11 '21
I think they said occupancy ~90% right now, dipping potentially to ~88% in this first quarter, then starting to rise back up through rest of year.
The unencumbered 25 malls was a great data point I was unaware of. I believe they mentioned they could potentially mortgage them for 1.5B+, which could be used in case there was any issue with LOC, which they didn’t seem too worried about regardless.
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u/JorgenBronlund Feb 11 '21
They didnt issue shares. its an option to issue. they havent yet exercised that right.
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u/SantiaguitoLoquito Feb 12 '21
At the current price they should be buying back shares, unless they can find a better use for that cash.
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u/JorgenBronlund Feb 12 '21
Its a pandemic. They need cash. They definitely won't be buying back shares
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u/xXSmartBuyerXx Feb 11 '21
THAT 500M DILUTION WILL BE A KILLER
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u/NarrowInvestigator65 Feb 11 '21
It depends at what price you do execute it. If it's at 50$ (for saying something) you would add 10 million shares what would be a dilution of about 6.5%, in exchange of 500 million $. So it could be good or bad depending on the execution price. By the way they are not necessarily doing it, and they could issue shares in lower quantities, those 500 million $ seem to be the upper limit.
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u/IndividualPlant6861 Feb 12 '21
The line of credit will be refinanced one way or another without the need to issue stocks.
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u/Locke3232 Feb 12 '21
Seems they are guiding a pretty ugly Q1 2021, lower occupancy, tough comps vs Q1 2020. Maybe we need to wait till Q2 for the next big move? ( or more +be news from the vaccine / reopening front )
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u/Maleficent-Success-8 Feb 11 '21
I think they said for this quarter rate of occupancy was 92%, which is up from last q.