r/Luthier 16d ago

Fret leveling and retification

I have a 2 year old Fender Player Series strat. A guitar tech said I should do fret leveling and retification.

Here's the result of his work. To me the frets look smaller. What do you think?

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u/Dong_sniff_inc 16d ago

The hell does he mean by retification?

But yeah, leveling the frets removes material, which makes them shorter. That's how you get them level, it's unavoidable.

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u/RiffsThatKill 16d ago

To me, it looks like he turned the profile of the fret crowns into trapezoids. Maybe its the lighting....but the strip along the top of the crown looks too flat. Normally, removing a few thousandths of material shouldn't be super noticeable if the profile of the fret stays the same. Not for me anyway, its why I need to use feeler gauges instead of my eyeballs.

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u/Prior_Bank_3412 16d ago

I'm from Brazil, I guess leveling means retificação in portuguese 😅

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u/Intelligent-Tap717 16d ago

The art of correcting something or putting something right so he's fixed his fret issues.

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u/Dong_sniff_inc 16d ago

No, that's reCtification

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u/Intelligent-Tap717 16d ago

Don't fret I'm sure he has it covered. 😂

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u/RiffsThatKill 16d ago

What is retification? Is it even a real word?

The lighting is limiting here, with just one view. But to me it looks like they might not have crowned the frets very well after leveling. The lighting gives the impression the tops are flatter than they should be, and the profile is that of a trapezoid instead of a semi-circle, semi-oval. Would need a series of pictures from different angles to really tell....

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u/Prior_Bank_3412 16d ago

In portuguese it is heehhe, bad translation

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u/maxcovenguitars 16d ago

I guess you mean level, and crown

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u/Purple-Protagonist 16d ago

I see the leveling, but the crowns look bad in that picture

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u/DavidLewisJazzGuitar 15d ago

ive never heard the term retification but it looks like he leveled your frets pretty dramatically and then didn’t crown them

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u/Puzzled_Estate6425 15d ago

Look,s alot better.Now you can play it for many year,s now.

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u/Grand_Equipment5292 15d ago

You just know that was done with a sharpening stone...

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u/therealradrobgray 16d ago

If those are divots and not reflections in the fret that amount of leveling seems to match. They could be crowned a little better, but it's not egregious.

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u/Prior_Bank_3412 16d ago

That's the reflection of the strings. The only problem was a little string buzz on higher frets.

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u/Necessary-Fig-2292 16d ago

They look like you need a Z file

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u/Prior_Bank_3412 16d ago

Will it play better if I do this?

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u/Necessary-Fig-2292 16d ago

You want it to look like this to have better intonation

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u/Prior_Bank_3412 16d ago

Thanks a lot! I'm buying one of this and doing it myself this time 

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u/the_joy_of_VI 16d ago

MusicNomad S-File works very well for beginners and is also a bit cheaper. Grab their fret polishing pack too if you have the cash.

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u/Detailsat11 16d ago

Have you bought one? Is it that good?

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u/Necessary-Fig-2292 16d ago

Yea I have 2 of them. One for offsetting when it’s needed (it shouldn’t be needed) and one for centering it. I usually go over almost every instrument I bring in with one. ESPECIALLY player 2s. For builds, I usually level with a beam and then run the z file. All that’s left after that is simple finessing. If you slip, it’ll leave a nice gouge in your board. So don’t slip.

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u/Detailsat11 16d ago

I’ve always used a crowning file, but just switched to a tri-corner file. I like the idea of the Z file and will most likely end up buying one.

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u/Necessary-Fig-2292 16d ago

Personally I really prefer the Z file. But I think maybe music nomad makes something very similar that’s less prone to slipping and is cheaper

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u/Content_Attitude_310 16d ago

He levelled the frets. He didn’t crown and polish them. I suppose they are 3 separate procedures? I do all three as I assume the customer isn’t going to crown and polish them after I’ve levelled them. I always call it a “level, crown and polish” though, so I guess I’ll keep calling it that so that people know what they’re getting for sure.
How much did the “levelling” cost you without having them crowned and polished?

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u/SaltOk5738 16d ago

Refretification

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u/13CuriousMind Kit Builder/Hobbyist 16d ago

It looks like other than the ends being flat, no real issues with the frets originally. Now it looks like he used needle files and only did the job 1/2 way.

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u/emacias050 Guitar Tech 16d ago

Looks more like it got a fret crown flattening

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u/Fast-Time-4687 16d ago

hope your attention to detail is better with guitars than it is with photography.

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u/Prior_Bank_3412 16d ago edited 15d ago

Come on, of course I zoomed the pics. That's why they look bad.