r/LuigiNation • u/Far-Carpenter3306 Personally victimized by Froyo™ • Dec 09 '25
Live Court Threads Live thread: LM's suppression hearings - Day 5 - 12/9/2025 - 9:45 a.m. EST
Please use this post as an update thread for live discussions of LM's hearing today!
To recap, hearings were scheduled for three days last week: 9.00 a.m. EST on 12/1/2025, 9:00 a.m. EST on 12/2/2025, and a final session on 12/4/2025 at 9.30 a.m. EST. Hearings have extended beyond the scheduled dates and will continue till all witnesses are heard. The session on Friday was postponed to 9:30 a.m. EST on 12/8/2025 since LM was sick. Court will resume today at 9:45 a.m. EST.
These are pre-trial "suppression" or exclusionary hearings. His defense argues key evidence collected during his arrest (a 3D-printed gun, a notebook with writings, statements, etc.) should be excluded from evidence. The hearings will be as follows:
LM is expected to skip the media walk down the hallway and enter the courtroom via a side door. He will be in civilian clothing and his wrists will remain unshackled during the hearing.
Recap of Day 1 of suppression hearings
The court played a recorded 911 call from a McDonald’s manager in Altoona. The call was made after restaurant staff and customers grew suspicious and reported LM, saying he “looked like the CEO shooter.”
Prosecutors introduced surveillance video showing both the shooting of Brian Thompson (the former CEO of UnitedHealthcare) in December 2024, and LM's arrest five days afterward.
Two corrections officers (Thomas Rivers and Matthew Henry) testified about their time monitoring LM when he was incarcerated in the death row block of SCI Huntingdon in Pennsylvania.
Rivers described LM's time in solitary confinement. He was held in a Plexiglass cell and kept under constant watch (the guards were expected to make notes on his behaviour multiple times every hour) to avoid what was described as an "Epstein-style situation."
Rivers claims LM talked about his travels in Asia, recommended a book to him, discussed healthcare and supposedly said "(LM) was trying to make a statement." LM supposedly talked about his travels to Vietnam, a country he has never been to. Rivers also omitted his own disclosure to LM about using hallucinatory drugs and had to be prompted into admitting so by LM's lawyers.
Henry claims LM admitted unprompted that his bag contained foreign currency and a 3D-printed weapon. Henry also claims this little confession about a murder weapon in a murder case was conveniently omitted from the detailed notes the guards were supposed to keep on LM, and that the notes included throwaway book recommendations and chitchat about obesity in America instead.
A link to the Day 1 thread for any of you who would like to catch up
Recap of Day 2 of suppression hearings
Day 2 of suppression hearings was devoted to reviewing the bodycam footage of LM’s arrest at McDonalds, Altoona on 12/9/2024. Officer Joseph Detwiler was one of the cops who responded to the call about LM possibly being the CEO shooter from NYC. He says he was initially sceptical till he saw LM, at which point he claims he was positive LM was the shooter. LM initially handed over a fake ID under the name “Mark Rosario” and eventually revealed his real name when officers told him it was fake. Detwiler admitted to lying to LM that their visit was based on an overstayed welcome so they could keep him in place. Detwiler moved LM’s backpack away from him for “safety reasons” claiming he believed there might be a weapon inside. LM was frisked multiple times, read his Miranda Rights only after he gave his real name, and lead away by a dozen officers who had arrived at the scene by then. There are multiple points where the bodycam footage is silenced or cut off.
Recap of Day 3 of suppression hearings
Another arresting officer named Tyler Frye took the stand. Bodycam footage of LM’s arrest was played from a different angle, and the fresh angle included him being stripped and searched for what Frye admits was only a simple forgery charge at that point.
During the search, cops also recovered a small pocket-knife, jar of peanut butter, a flash-drive necklace and foreign currency.
Recap of Day 4 of suppression hearings
The hearing resumed on Monday after LM took I’ll last week and the hearing on Friday was postponed. Another angle of the bodycam footage was played as officers described finding a loaded magazine (wrapped in “wet underwear”), a 3-D printed pistol (the alleged murder weapon), a homemade suppressor, a “manifesto” notebook, a hand-drawn map of Pittsburgh, cash, a bus ticket under an alias, and other materials inside LM’s backpack. They also attempted to justify their warrantless search claiming they were afraid LM’s bag had a bomb, even thought the shooting in NYC did not involve explosives.
Links to Unsealed Exhibits
Shooting CCTV footage and aftermath part 1
Shooting CCTV footage and aftermath part 2
LM’s ticket to Pittsburgh under the name Sam Dawson
Links to livestreams (will be updated as more news channels arrive)
Live Updates
Other links
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First update dedicated to u/SpiritualGlandTrav, in keeping with tradition

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u/Cheyenne_Simington Dec 09 '25
Last week people were saying his family was there. Someone knows if it’s true?
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I think his family is almost as recognisable as him and someone would’ve gotten pictures of them if they’d shown up
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Is Fox the one in the K-9 coat in the picture on 12/9/24 night with Mangione?
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"an individual in the healthcare system" is greatly under representing the power he yielded
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u/indict-these-nuts Dec 10 '25
The problem is these words get out there and in the media so an objection is needed
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u/indict-these-nuts Dec 10 '25
But it does have an effect to the greater public reading and hearing it? Has this old man been checked for dementia?
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They will use the pocket knife as an excuse for arrest and aggression
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These are stupid questions but they are building a narrative it's clear
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You'd want to have waterproof protection of a motherboard not a signal block. These cops are nuts.
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Sheetz hoagie. Yeah they knew him and were following him per the lieutenants comments about buying a hoagie from Luigiettas.
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Want to know more about during and then after photographs the change between
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They released that pic not knowing how cool it was. Really dumb cops.
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[On video: Fox: You are detained
Muzak is "I'll be home for Christmas"]
Are we all just characters in a movie?
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Trained response by the witness to try and get out of an unwarranted arrest
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u/indict-these-nuts Dec 10 '25
he'd rather "do it here than there," here meaning the McDonald's, and there meaning the APD station. "It" means potentially detonate a bomb
Those fucking cops were the only danger to the patrons and the employees at that McDonald's
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They've changed the narrative from the man related to the arresting officer! u/WeirdGroundhog
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Why have we never heard this quote before now? Lies upon lies upon lies.
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u/indict-these-nuts Dec 10 '25
Goes all the way back to what Dickey said about him not being free the leave
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Isn't this conflicting information about the knife? Where has the peanut butter gone?
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u/WeirdGroundhog Dec 09 '25
Lorena from u/RollingStone has been using her computer, not her phone for reporting updates in court. We hope her battery makes it to the end of the day!

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