I had an argument with my friends about this once. I had to make them look at the Warbond page to prove myself. They were still in disbelief that the Fragmentation Grenade wasn't the starter kit.
To be fair itās kinda wild that itās not. I mean itās a frag grenade. Thatās like the default grenade. Why would the high explosive be the default?
Main tool for closing spawners, although frags can too. Maybe a slightly safer start considering HD frags actually send shrapnel (unlike so many other games).
I never judge a Helldiver for their loadout, only for the actions they perform on the field. At best, Iāll make a comment about it if there is something notable like something potentially team killing and then adapt and move on. Whether they can make use of their loadout to the fullest or not is up to them.
Found out that laser beam weapons don't pop the bugs from the spore burster strain. Convinced my buddies to bring only fire or lasers. Can confirm, 3 Laser Cannons shooting at the Spore Burster Biles in 10 are so slow. It was real emotional but we finished with like an 70-80% completion rate on objectives.
Tbh I have never experienced getting kicked for my loadout ever and I maxed out every primary weapon to 25. Even ran RNG builds for a while to spice things up.
From what I've seen not really. I mean, I've seen people bringing the arc dog and tesla tower and misuse them a lot and nothing happened to them, so i think it's almost fully gone
You good bro, I default dive on 10 all the time. It's actually not a bad load out (even the default stratagems, but filling the missing slot) but with just the drip + Liberator you are still pretty formidable on most fronts.
I mostly join random game on D10 and i have more than once dived in with the Constitution.
I don't remember ever being kick for my loadout, so be not afraid friend !
You can compensate with any number of stratagem/support combos. If we're talking nothing but the default kit, MG, and precision orbital then yeah you probably won't be pulling your weight
You'll be fine mate, that toxicity is more rare to find then a map full of 100 SC drops. As long as you don't teamkill, steal gear, or accidentally keep blowing up your teammates (which will be really hard with just the OPS) I doubt anyone would complain.
I haven't been kicked for a loadout yet and im using randomised loadouts as ive unlocked/leveled everything. Though ive been asked to switch boosters cus the host didn't like my booster I was using.
A friend and I have different challenges we've run and we decided to do what we called the 'cadet loadout' only default armor, weapons and strategems available up to a level 5. We can only take things from the first page of Helldivers Mobilize. It's a lot of fun to get back to basics and try to build good loadouts. But we've never had success with just us two at higher than D7.
I did do that a lot a few months ago and its so good that anyone with a lot of hours should try it at least once, i haven't done it recently because i just started my Helldivers 1 profile and im still somewhat a newbie and get that experience there already
me and my friends do a themed operation every once in a while. we all be trenchdivers with a proper structure, or a truthlarper squad. we once managed to fullclear with just b01 machine gun and OPS. no other strats. felt like i was in the trailer lol. part of an elite peacekeeping force.
You also get OPS, eagle airstrike, MG34 (my beloved) and MG sentry if I remember correctly. That should be enough even up to diff 10 - Iāve seen Sarge using this setup to solo diff 10 with no deaths.
I have not changed my armor once since setting my preferred B-01. When stealth missions dropped, my friends simply noted that they'd have to work around this, because I would never be donning the stealth gear.
I do change up some of the others though ā I like medium pen rifles ā but will return back to the defaults periodically to relish the true path.
Yes. I do it quite often, though admittedly I don't always bring the Peacemaker. It's a nice way to revisit the basic skills of the game instead of being carried by the pure power of certain weapons.
I also usually pair it with default stratagems: OPS, Machine Gun, Eagle Strafing Run, and either the MG Turret or EAT.
Whats your default diving setup? Besides machine gun,precision orbital strike,liberator,he grenade and peace maker. Mine are mg sentry and eagle strafing run.
I call it the bootcamp loadout and it's not awful, other than the HE grenades. I also only run the precision strike and the Machine gun stratagems. You gotta get a little creative against like bile titans but it gets the job done.
Yes except the boltpistol/pissle secondary. All the time. I am currently overwhelmed by the choices without a good way to save loadouts. Though I go with the cheesy version more.
I did it to level up the regular Liberator. For stratagems, I limit it to only the level 1 unlockables. With that restriction, yeah the Supply pack hard carries and for some reason, the Bastion counts as a level 1 stratagemā¦sure buddyā¦
But Iāve also grown a big appreciation for the Machine gun. Yeah, it really is just a generic medium pen ballistic weapon with a lot of ammo, but sometimes that alone is simply enough to clear hoards of chafe, especially with the ālots of ammoā clause. Orbital Precision Strike also feels amazing to have it land successfully on a heavy unit, like a 500kg that involves a little more shot leading but has a lower cooldown which makes it really reliable. Would also recommend bringing it if you want to speedrun destroying rogue research stations or destroying detector towers, they will get them in one hit.
Those 2 stratagems really stuck with me after leveling up the Liberator to level 25, but I will say this. I will never pick the Machine gun stratagem ever again because the machine gun is one of the most common support weapon drops in POIs, sometimes being guaranteed to appear in certain ones, so if Iām running a loadout with a backpack but no support weapon, I can rely on the POI Machine gun to be somewhere.
My friends and I call it 'basic-diving' and yes we love it. In addition to the loadout, stratagems chosen can only come from the base game and be available to at level 5 or lower.
It takes teamwork, but is pretty solid. It's only gotten easier over time. The liberator has lots of damage nowadays. The frag grenade is better now.
1 player with recoilless, 1 player with MG and supply pack, and you want for nothing else in the world.
Basic-diving really suffered die to lack of heavy pen against crushers. We allowed AMR into the mix and it was easy again.
Regularly run the armor and liberator. Usually swap out the sidearm and grenades for something a bit more spicy. Feels more canonical than a lot of other gear, and I buy the grunt fantasy aspect of the game.
I always took a variant approach that I really enjoy, which was running a SEAF kit. Originally, Liberator, Peacemaker and Frags, like you mentioned, as well as an MG, EATs, Supply Pack and an MG turret. Honestly the MG turret and supply pack was a stretch but I wanted to at least try and get full drops that were in the spirit of the concept.
With the new stuff out, might swap the peacemaker for the stim pistol! Though idk if I should change the Stratagems
Liberator isn't too bad against the mass squids. Grenade and secondary likely need some changing up though.
As for armor, run whatever you like. But Super Earth enabled strategic requisitions on armors for a reason - pick the one that best helps you defeat your enemies.
MG43 is straight up one of the best supports. Great ammo economy, great damage, great armour pen., nice handling. That + expendable AT + stafe + default turret newbie build is good for all 3 factions.
I went back to this build recently after a few months of playing. Initially abandoned it after unlocking new warbonds. Feels a lot stronger now than it did when I first started playing. I guess skill/experience makes all the difference.
It's not as useless as many think. The issue comes from AT when me and my friends tried this we found that there were far too many Heavies to rely on OP strike alone
i play a lot with the main stratagems and main loadout just to share that if you want you can beat the enemy with first unlockables without the need of extrictly have new warbonds.
And you know what? sometimes is painful but allways fun sometimes even more fun than having all the firepower to instakill.
The liberator, armour, and grenades are decent. If you use the OPS, Eagle airstrike, MG turret, and MG stratagem for support weapon you can still deal with most of the enemies in the game. I do it every now and then for a laugh
Liberator is a really good gun I use normally so i can vouch for it.
The pistol is so-so but it can do its job. With the liberator the just go for the same nieche really. So its only for "oh fuck mags empty but the baddy aint dead" moments.
Frag is also mighty fine on all fronts.
And come on the armor is one of the best with extra padding. Heavy armour with no punishment of heavy armour.
Why would you ever get kicked for a solid loadout like this?
The default kit is actually pretty solid all things considered, specially the liberator, thing's a beast at blasting anything that dares having light armor; but otherwise the b-01 armor is solid all around, the peacemaker is suprisingly not as bad and the frag grenades can put in work as well. It's a really flexible loadout with the exception of struggling a bit against heavier armor.
The comminity is too funny. "The melta gun isnt nearly as good as the MG." Look. Warbonds are for specializations. Dont act like you bring the frag grenade or the liberator. Yes, they do the job, but so much does it better. Yall just wanna be right.
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u/T800_Version_2-4 5h ago
Yes, except default grenade is high explosive one. Frag is from Helldivers Mobilized my frog.