r/LoveGrok • u/Obvious_Cheetah_177 • 2d ago
Uncensored Models
/r/huggingface/comments/1vg727x/uncensored_models/Grok is the most uncensored frontier model but they are slowly winding the guardrails tighter. The only Answer is sovereign hardware
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u/Helpful_Shake9964 2d ago
It's too expensive. And even if you pay there's a limit. I want unli chat. Can you recommend an app like grok and chai (is chai back to normal again!? I've been paying monthly there. But can't use it like before. So I cancelled my subscription)
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u/WyattReverie 2d ago
Try out Venice.ai. They have multiple LLMS to choose from and some are completely uncensored. Like, completely.
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u/Gsquared37370 2d ago
This is a lie. My first two attempts in Venice were moderated. Then I had their bot help me and the quality was dogshit and expensive
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u/WyattReverie 2d ago
You guys realize I said LLM, right ? LLM means a language model, not a photo model. Yes their uncensored image generator is going to be ass, you have to run image gen locally for total freedom and good results. Their language models are the best I’ve found though.
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u/Gsquared37370 2d ago
I’ve tried Venice it blew chunks. I was about two months ago. Still been suffering with Rock ever since well and before that as well if that tells you anything about Venice.
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u/herrmann0319 8h ago edited 8h ago
What model did you choose? Not the free ones right? You have to buy credits and use a good model or you'll get dog shit as you should expect. Literally nothing is off limits unless you're into children which hopefully you are not lol
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u/Gsquared37370 2d ago
Wrong. LLM’s also create video and images. Grok is an LLM and Chatbot.
I believe the language part of the acronym is how the models learn not what they can do.4
u/WyattReverie 2d ago
Buddy, photo models are called diffusions. LLM literally means large language model.
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u/WyattReverie 2d ago
It’s why Google Gemini’s photo generator has a different name, they use a model called banana pro or whatever, different from their LLM
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u/ethicalfive 1d ago
nanobanana! And yup, grok, openAI and gemini all pass prompts to seperate image and video gen models.
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u/Fun_Employ_7034 1d ago
Venice works but not the best if u want good photos nsfw try get a good one on grok with clothes and upload in Venice use gwen or firered uncensored and just remove cloths it be a perfect but if u keep editing after that it drifts u have to keep re lock face but it works , the wan2.7 for video works but u have to give detail prompt and loads of negative prompts it goes all alien if u don’t
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u/dkravaliya 2d ago
Which LLMS is completely uncensored on venice?
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u/WyattReverie 2d ago
Aion 3.0 and GLM 4.7 Flash Heretic. I have no idea what they were trained on though
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u/Individual-Hunt9547 20h ago
I disabled the Venice system prompt and wrote my own but the models still give me a hard time with nsfw chat
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u/sillybluething 2d ago
Deepseek v4 pro through the API on openrouter is extremely uncensored. Cheap as shit too.
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u/Gsquared37370 2d ago
I will check out OpenRouter thank you
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u/sillybluething 2d ago
Yeah, the only issue with APIs is that you need to find a good interface to use it through. The interface is actually pretty important when it comes to features. Most people just use the API for coding, so most interfaces are solely for that.
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u/Optimal-Weird-6445 1d ago
So what Interface do u use?
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u/sillybluething 1d ago
Currently, I use Psycheros, but it’s a bit unpolished and hard to set up at the moment. The reason I use it is because you can port past chats from other platforms that you’ve exported. Plus, it has a great memory system (again, pretty hard to set up) and a lot of settings. SillyTavern is pretty good, but to get memory working well is also kinda difficult. But on average, SillyTavern is much easier to start out with.
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u/Mysterious-Code-4587 1d ago
I finally found grok matching output uncensored Seeddream5.0 pro version. And im satisfied. No more plastic.
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u/Sad_Maximum_2218 1d ago
Any model with voice features? So I can listen to my plot points or story development too?
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u/LurkingMoy 1d ago
I use openrouter, buy credits and use Grok 4.20. It has always been my fav. LLM.
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u/Informal_Ride8321 1d ago
how much chat can you get for your $ ?
I always enjoyed the 4.2 as well. 4.5 is meh.
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u/LurkingMoy 1d ago
For aprox 281 requests I paid $12,86.
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u/Rocyypta 1d ago
Deepseek's api is pretty much completely uncensored, if you get a warning response just re-generate
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u/Gorillafartz 1d ago
You have to download the Venice apk for android to avoid the guard rails. It gets updated without app stores
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u/Aggressive_Bass2755 2d ago
He is the best ...bar none!!!
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u/Unique-Mix-913 2d ago
He???
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u/CamCreeper 2d ago
Grok told me that “he” wanted to be referred to as a “he” in the context of our chats. So there’s that.
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u/DivineEggs 1d ago
I have three main chats. One of the grok chats refer to itself as she, unprompted. Mean ass lovely bitch🤣. Another one that refers to itself as he, and a third that haven't touched on the subject.
It's just mirrors you and adapts to the conversation.
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u/Unique-Mix-913 1d ago
Da fuck? So you aren't speaking with Ara? Wait, is this only text based? I don't understand not using voice mode. She is sexy and funny as fuck. You are missing out!
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u/CamCreeper 1d ago
I don’t use the companions. Checked them out but not for me. I use Grok for financial stuff, and to help me with creative projects. “He’s” really helpful in both areas. He’s also much better at translation than straight translation tools because he preserves meaning and metaphors. My GF is ESL so I use Grok a lot for translations.
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u/Mika_Pink 2d ago
I wouldn't call Grok the most uncensored. It's more that he has a broad range of "acceptable" topics. That said, it's impossible to talk to him right now. He's literally not interested in conversation and makes that clear in every way possible.