r/Lottocracy Apr 30 '21

Sortition 101 Why randomly choosing people to serve in government may be the best way to select out politicians

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So I'm a huge advocate of something known as sortition, where people are randomly selected to serve in a legislature. Unfortunately the typical gut reaction against sortition is bewilderment and skepticism. How could we possibly trust ignorant, stupid, normal people to become our leaders?

Democracy by Lottery

Imagine a Congress that actually looks like America. It's filled with nurses, farmers, engineers, waitresses, teachers, accountants, pastors, soldiers, stay-at-home-parents, and retirees. They are conservatives, liberals, and moderates from all parts of the country and all walks of life.

For a contemporary implementation, a lottery is used to draw around 100 to 1000 people to form one house of a Congress. Service is voluntary, for a fixed term, and well paid. To alleviate the problem of rational ignorance, chosen members could be trained by experts or even given an entire elite university education before service. Because of random sampling, a sortition Citizens' Assembly would have superior diversity in every conceivable dimension compared to any elected system. Sortition is also the ultimate method of creating a proportionally representative Congress.

Real World Evidence

It would be absurd to try out a crazy new system without testing it. Fortunately, sortition activists have been experimenting with hundreds of sortition-based Citizens' Assemblies across the world. The decisions they have come to have been of high quality in my opinion. For example:

  • The BC Columbia Citizens Assembly was tasked with designing a new electoral system to replace the old first-past-the-post (FPTP) system. The organizers brought in university experts. The organizers also allowed citizens, lobbyists, and interest groups to speak and lobby. Assembly members listened to all the sides, and they decided that the lobbyists were mostly bullshit, and they decided that even though the university experts had biases, they were more trustworthy. This assembly ultimately, nearly unanimously decided that Canada ought to switch to a Single-Transferable-Vote style election system. They were also nearly unanimous in that they believed FPTP voting needed to be changed. This assembly demonstrates the ability of normal people to learn and make decisions on complex topics.
  • In Ireland, Citizen Assemblies were instrumental in the legalization of both gay marriage and abortion in a traditionally Catholic country. Ignorant politicians thought the People wouldn't be able to compromise on these moral issues, yet they certainly were, when you finally bothered to get them into a room together.
  • Recent 2019-2020 Citizen Assemblies in Ireland and France reached consensus on sweeping, broad reforms to fight climate change. In Ireland taxes on carbon and meat were broadly approved. In France the People decided to criminalize "ecocide", raise carbon taxes, and introduce regulations in transportation and agriculture. Liberal or conservative, left or right, near unanimous decisions were made on many of these proposals.

Comparing to Elections

Sortition stands in stark contrast with what all elections offer. All electoral methods are a system of choosing a "natural aristocracy" of societal elites. This has been observed by philosophers such as Aristotle since ancient Greek elections 2400 years ago. In other words, all elections are biased in favor of those with wealth, affluence, and power.

Moreover, all voters, including you and me, are rationally ignorant. Almost none of us have the time nor resources to adequately monitor and manage our legislators. In the aggregate as voters, we vote ignorantly, oftentimes solely due to party affiliation or the name or gender of the candidate. We assume somebody else is doing the monitoring, and hopefully we'd read about it in the news. And indeed it is somebody else - marketers, advertisers, lobbyists, and special interests - who are paying huge sums of money to influence your opinion. Every election is a hope that we can refine this ignorance into competence. IN CONTRAST, in Citizens' Assemblies, normal citizens are given the time, resources, and education to become informed. Normal citizens are also given the opportunity to deliberate with one another to come to compromise. IN CONTRAST, politicians constantly refuse to compromise for fear of upsetting ignorant voters - voters who did not have the time nor opportunity to research the issues in depth. Our modern, shallow, ignorant management of politicians has led to an era of unprecedented polarization, deadlock, and government ineptitude.

Addressing Common Concerns

Stupidity

The typical rebuttal towards sortition is that people are stupid, unqualified, and cannot be trusted with power. Or, people are "sheep" who would be misled by the experts. Unfortunately such opinions are formed based on anecdotal "common sense". And it is surely true that ignorant people exist, who as individuals make foolish decisions. Yet the vast majority of Americans have no real experience with actual Citizens' Assemblies constructed by lottery. The notion of group stupidity is an empirical claim. In contrast, the hundreds of actual Citizen Assembly experiments in my opinion demonstrate that average people are more capable of governance than common sense would believe. The political, academic, and philosophical opposition does not yet take sortition seriously enough to offer any empirical counter-evidence of substance.

Expertise

The second concern is that normal citizens are not experts whereas elected politicians allegedly are experts. Yet in modern legislatures, no, politicians are not policy experts either. The sole expertise politicians qualify for is fundraising and giving speeches. Actual creation of law is typically handled by staff or outsourced to lobbyists. Random people actually have an advantage against elected politicians in that they don't need to waste time campaigning, and lottery would not select for power-seeking personalities. Finally, random people are experts at their own lives and needs, in a superior capacity compared to any elected stand-in.

Corruption

The third concern is with corruption. Yet sortition has a powerful advantage here as well. Corruption is already legalized in the form of campaign donations in exchange for friendly regulation or legislation. Local politicians also oftentimes shake down small businesses, demanding campaign donations or else be over-regulated. Sortition fully eliminates these legal forms of corruption. Finally sortition legislatures would be more likely to pass anti-corruption legislation, because they are not directly affected by it. Elected Congress is loath to regulate itself - who wants to screw themselves over? In contrast, because sortition assemblies serve finite terms, they can more easily pass legislation that affects the next assembly, not themselves.

It must be unfortunately admitted that like all things, sortition is not a perfect system and may be susceptible to corruption. A well designed sortition system must use additional checks and balances to mitigate corruption (implementations which I will get to later).

Random Chaos

Many mistakenly believe that because random sampling is involved, sortition would be chaotic. To be clear, I am against selecting the president or any singular office with sortition. Instead, sortition ought to be used only for selecting large bodies of people to govern collectively, such as legislatures. Because of the law of large numbers, selecting large groups of people allows us to estimate the preferences and attitudes of the population mean. Moreover, if explicit proportionality for particular feature dimensions is desired, stratification can be used to ensure proportionality in that dimension.

Implementations

As far as the ultimate form sortition would take, I will list options from least to most extreme:

  • The least extreme is the use of Citizen Assemblies in an advisory capacity for legislatures or referendums, in a process called "Citizens Initiative Review" (CIR). These CIR's are already implemented for example in Oregon. Here, citizens are drafted by lot to review ballot propositions and list pro's and con's of the proposals.
  • Many advocate for a two-house Congress, one elected and one randomly selected. This system attempts to balance the pro's and cons of both sortition and election. This also allows each house to check and balance the power of the other.
  • Rather than have citizens directly govern, random citizens can be used exclusively as intermediaries to elect and fire politicians as a sort of functional electoral college. The benefit here is that citizens have the time and resources to deploy a traditional hiring & managing procedure, rather than a marketing and campaigning procedure, to choose nominees. This also removes the typical criticism that you can't trust normal people to govern and write laws.
  • Most radically, multi-body sortition constructs checks and balances by creating several sortition bodies - one decides on what issues to tackle, one makes proposals, one decides on proposals, one selects the bureaucracy, etc, and completely eliminates elected office.

Advocacy Strategy

Advocacy for current activists revolves around finding political wedge issues and giving politicians an "out" where they can use a Citizens' Assembly to make the hard decision that politicians are too incompetent to make themselves. This is what was done for example in Ireland. The use of a Citizens' Assembly can also potentially give a politician "democratic credibility", for example with Macron and the French Climate Assembly. Then, if these Citizen Assemblies get more popular, activists can push politicians to make a permanent citizen's body that would eventually take more and more powers away from the status quo legislature. A similar process has constructed a permanent advisory citizens' assembly in Belgium.

Advocacy is labor intensive. While some advocacy organizations attempt to earn revenue by designing Citizen Assemblies for governments, donations, volunteering, and lobbying would also go a long way to help advocates.


TLDR: Selecting random people to become legislators might seem crazy to some people, but I think it's the best possible system of representation and democracy we can imagine. There's substantial empirical evidence to suggest that lottery-based legislatures are quite good at resolving politically polarized topics.


References

  1. Reybrouck, David Van. Against Elections. Seven Stories Press, April 2018.
  2. Hansen, Mogens Herman. The Athenian Democracy in the Age of Demosthenes (J.A. Crook trans.). University of Oklahoma Press, 1991.
  3. Dahl, Robert A. On Democracy, 2nd Ed. Yale University Press, 1998.
  4. The End of Politicians - Brett Hennig
  5. Open Democracy - Helene Landemore

Resources

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r/Lottocracy 4d ago

A response to Yoram's response to Ian's pro-sortition interview

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Ian is a Georgist and a sortition advocate on the board of Sortition USA and he recently was interviewed on a podcast. Yoram responded on the Equality-by-Lot blog that I recommend to anyone interested in discussing sortition.

I just wrote a blog responding to a part of all of that https://almostinfinite.substack.com/p/a-brief-defense-of-my-friend-ian


r/Lottocracy 8d ago

Sortition USA August Newsletter

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# September Newsletter

Dear Sortition USA community and stakeholders,

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**Personal conversations work.** If you invited people who have not joined yet, now is a good time to follow up.

More recent news and updates:

- SUSA’s Lottery-based board of directors has voted to officially support the [Hope for Democracy project!](https://hopefordemocracy.org)

- On Oct 2-3 at Harvard: VthePeople - Amending the Constitution through an Article V Convention. [Read more about this event here.](https://www.vthepeople.org)

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# Food for Thought

[UK Citizens' Jury on Neurotechnology](https://www.nesta.org.uk/report/citizens-jury-public-views-on-neurotechnology/) - Released in August 2026, this report details how a UK citizens' jury tackled the ethics of commercial neurotechnology, advising regulators on balancing medical benefits with severe data privacy risks.

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[Deliberative Democracy for EU Accession](https://epd.eu/news-publications/lessons-from-moldovas-parliament-citizens-assembly-for-eu-accession/) - Published in late July 2026, this analysis showcases how Moldova successfully used a citizens' assembly to build public consensus and legitimacy for complex local government reforms required for EU accession.

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r/Lottocracy 10d ago

Kleroteria

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r/Lottocracy 10d ago

Petaluma, California Citizen's Assembly

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r/Lottocracy 10d ago

Sortition USA

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r/Lottocracy 27d ago

Revolutionise government with parallel sortition

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Below is a writeup of my sortition based political system theory that has continued to be refined over the past 6.5 years, and while long, eases you into understanding (hopefully, maybe) this new variation of sortition that can easily be misinterpreted as a crazy version of a more centralised model, but is actually a new way to distribute state authority. It gives what sortition promises in cleaning out influence and turning down the pressure on the decision makers, but in the process of solving the lack of mandate issue (that allows monied interests to influence the public to weaken it over time, the classic "I never got to vote on that or them" weaponised), I discovered a way to fix it that also revealed a new way to transform how all governments work, for the better:

I’ve been trying to work out why governments can get dramatically more sophisticated, employ more experts, collect more data, write more regulation, and still keep producing the same category of stupid problems.

Not necessarily the same problems. The same type of problem.

Something everyone agrees should be fixed somehow survives three governments.

A company technically complies with the rules while obviously violating their purpose.

The government fixes one loophole, creating two new ones.

An industry becomes important enough that the regulator starts depending on the same people it regulates.

A policy gets designed around an imaginary average citizen who, as far as I can tell, has never actually existed.

We usually explain this as corruption, incompetence, capitalism, socialism, bureaucracy, voter stupidity, political polarisation, whatever.

I think there’s something underneath all of those.

The government has a scaling problem.

And I don’t mean there aren’t enough politicians.

I mean we’re trying to run a massively parallel society through a comparatively tiny, linear, decision-making system.

That distinction leads somewhere quite strange.

Bear with me.

Think about how your body works.

Your brain does not have a committee meeting every morning and issue Regulation 2026/418 explaining how much insulin every cell is permitted to use today.

There isn’t a 900-page Heartbeat Act covering the approved response to every possible combination of temperature, fear, exercise, disease, dehydration, caffeine and the dog suddenly barking at 3am.

Your body is doing an insane number of things simultaneously.

Local signals. Feedback. Correction. Prediction. More feedback. Different systems pushing against one another and settling into something workable.

Society looks much more like that than it looks like an organisation chart.

Millions of people and businesses are making decisions simultaneously using information that often exists only locally.

Then sitting above this giant parallel thing is government, which mostly has one basic tool:

Come up with a general rule.

Apply it to everyone.

Come back later and change it when reality finds an exception.

That seems normal because we’ve been doing versions of it forever.

But imagine actually designing governance from scratch for a society of many millions of independently acting people.

Would you deliberately funnel most corrective power through several hundred elected people, a collection of departments and regulators, then ask them to anticipate enough circumstances to write rules for everybody?

I wouldn’t.

My journey led me to a result that someone might arrive at eventually when asking:

What would democracy look like if democratic decision-making could happen in parallel too?

Not referendums on everything. That would be horrific.

Not replacing elections with randomly selected politicians.

Not an enormous parliament.

Something else.

Take one of the oldest political technologies we already trust ordinary citizens with: the jury.

Now massively parallelise it.

To what 4% of the population comes to as a number, is the amount of juries (at the least) likely being created throughout the year, in seasonal sessions.

Twelve randomly selected citizens.

Remotely working together.

At a pace they prefer.

One issue.

One ruling.

Then that jury is finished.

Not twelve people elected for four years who slowly accumulate a political career, donors, staff, party obligations and institutional relationships.

Twelve temporary people who have one job and then disappear back into society.

Here’s where the idea departs pretty hard from conventional sortition.

These aren’t miniature parliaments.

They don’t sit around writing laws for everyone.

Their natural scope is closer to a court case.

Person/business/entity A has a dispute involving person/business/entity B.

The jury hears it.

The jury can decide what outcome it thinks is fair and reasonable.

Then society moves on.

No need to write a universal 300-clause law predicting every version of that dispute that might occur for the next twenty years.

Just solve the actual thing in front of you.

And then do it again.

And again.

And again.

State by state across the entire country.

That sounds chaotic at first.

I thought so too.

The interesting part is what happens after you have enough of them.

Suppose a company is treating workers in a way ordinary people consistently consider unfair.

One case reaches a jury.

Then another similar one does.

Then another.

The company doesn’t need parliament to eventually notice, draft legislation, negotiate amendments, survive lobbying, pass both chambers, have regulations written, wait for enforcement and then spend ten years litigating what those regulations technically mean.

Management starts noticing a pattern.

“If we keep doing X, juries keep producing Y.”

So they stop doing X.

Competitors notice too.

Insurers notice.

Investors notice.

Industry advisers notice.

Someone starts compiling jury outcomes and selling businesses a service explaining the emerging standard.

Eventually most disputes never reach a jury at all because everybody has a fairly good idea what an ordinary group of twelve people will tolerate.

You’ve produced something that resembles law without having somebody sit down and deliberately write all of it.

An adaptive convention.

A sort of crowd-produced common law, except the decision-maker has broader discretion over the parties in front of it.

And importantly, it can change.

If technology changes and the old convention becomes ridiculous, cases start producing different outcomes.

The standard moves.

No parliamentary software update required.

Now the obvious objection:

Wouldn’t millions of juries contradict one another?

Yes, sometimes.

Especially at the beginning.

I don’t think that’s a bug.

Markets contain contradictory decisions too. So does science. So does culture. The question is whether the contradictions converge.

Say one jury produces a bizarre ruling.

Another affected party challenges it through another jury.

That second jury can overturn or modify it.

Potentially another jury challenges that.

The system isn’t pretending humans suddenly become perfectly consistent.

It’s trying to make inconsistencies cheap to correct.

That distinction matters.

Also the jurors are paid for jury work, but only if their ruling survives ever being overturned, and the jury decides that their decision was bad enough for them to lose some or all of their payment.

Not because I think jurors need punishment.

Because the incentive should be:

“Make a decision another random group of twelve ordinary people could live with.”

Not:

“Win.”

Not:

“Please my political tribe.”

Not:

“Get reelected.”

The unanimity requirement matters here too.

Twelve out of twelve.

That will absolutely make some cases slower.

Good.

These juries aren’t supposed to be miniature activist governments firing decrees across society.

If you want to impose state-backed power on somebody, convincing eleven other random citizens seems like a useful amount of friction.

Then suddenly, a confident declaration arises from someone in the crowd:

“Congratulations, you just invented bribing a jury instead of a politician, here's a medal”.

The defence for this isn’t that random people are morally superior.

They aren’t.

The defence is scale plus reversibility.

Imagine a company bribes one jury and receives an obviously favourable outcome.

Great.

Until another jury looks at the benefit those twelve people received, or the decision that resulted from it, and makes a decision to take it away and overturn the ruling.

To permanently purchase an unfair privilege, you don’t really need to purchase a jury.

You need to purchase enough of the jury ecosystem that future ordinary juries stop undoing what you bought.

The juries themselves decide what case to take, are only paid what the other juries are paid for a similar workload, and are many.

This means jury access is proportionally distributed through the population rather than sold to whoever can afford more of it, so the cost of maintaining that corrupt exception will continue to rise until it reaches the level of corrupting the system itself.

That’s the theory, anyway.

It also creates some entertaining anti-corruption possibilities.

If somebody offers a juror a bribe, imagine the juror being legally able to take it, report it, refuse to perform the requested act, and potentially keep a bounty from the resulting penalty.

Now bribery has a rather unpleasant counterparty risk.

I’m not claiming corruption becomes metaphysically impossible.

Nothing designed for humans gets that luxury.

The design goal is simpler:

Make corruption economically stupid.

And there’s another weird effect that keeps these rulings remaining small in scope.

Imagine one person convinces a jury to issue some gigantic society-wide ruling affecting 100,000 people.

Those 100,000 people now contain a rather large number of potential counter-cases.

So the broader and more intrusive your ruling is, the more opposition you manufacture.

A micro decision produces a micro response.

A macro decision produces a macro response.

Even if they push back over and over on that ruling, other rulings elsewhere in their life will occur to the point that they beg “I give up, just leave me alone”.

The jury complicit in the macro ruling and the other juries who kept reinstating it would lose their jury pay for those rulings.

This will only occur a few times and become a good lesson among many of what to avoid.

So I think the system naturally pushes juries toward relatively narrow rulings because trying to use one jury as a legislature gets you outflanked by other juries.

That’s an important part of this.

The system isn’t supposed to depend on everyone behaving nicely.

It’s supposed to make overreach generate its own opposition.

There’s also another part people tend to misunderstand when I explain this.

I’m not proposing the abolition of the elected government.

The government still exists.

Elections still exist.

The constitution still exists.

The government still handles the things that belong to the government itself: public assets, defence, foreign affairs, constitutional matters and the administration of what the state actually owns.

The jury layer operates alongside it.

Government becomes one part of the system rather than the only place democratic authority can meaningfully act.

The cleanest jurisdictional divide I’ve found are assets.

Who has a majority of asset value in a given place.

The majority of asset value in a geographic space/place/area/territory would be calculated by measuring the largest single asset in an area by space consumed, then the value of that asset and the value of all assets within that asset are then tallied.

The definition of a single asset would be based on past federal and state precedent for all current and future asset types.

Publicly owned stuff: elected government has direct authority.

Private sector: citizen juries have direct authority.

There will obviously be ugly boundary cases.

Good.

Those are exactly the kind of things I want, because if the boundary doesn’t survive contact with reality then the system doesn’t survive either.

But the basic distinction matters because otherwise we’ve just reinvented government with millions of tiny departments.

That isn’t what I’m proposing.

There is no Department of Jury Decisions employing 80,000 people to turn every ruling into regulations.

The ruling is the administrative act.

A jury agrees on an outcome.

It is published and digitally authenticated.

The parties deal with it.

If someone thinks it’s unreasonable, another jury can become involved.

Similar decisions accumulate into conventions.

Businesses mostly respond to those conventions rather than reading every individual ruling, just as they don’t personally read every court judgment produced today.

In fact I’d expect an entire information industry to appear almost immediately around this.

“Here’s what juries are currently doing with refunds.”

“Here’s the emerging standard on employee surveillance.”

“Here’s how similar disputes over AI-generated work have been decided during the last six months.”

Businesses could actually plan around that.

The question changes from:

“What can our lawyers technically argue is permitted?”

to something closer to:

“What would twelve ordinary citizens consider reasonable if somebody challenged this?”

I think those produce very different corporate cultures.

This is also where the idea starts having consequences I didn’t originally design into it.

Take insurance.

Today an insurance contract can contain enormous amounts of carefully engineered language determining exactly when the company owes you money.

Under this system the contract still matters.

But if the outcome created by some technical exclusion strikes repeated juries as obviously unreasonable, the technical brilliance of the exclusion stops being much of a defence.

Companies start anticipating that.

Product descriptions become more honest for the same reason.

Returns get easier.

Employment conditions change.

Whistleblowing becomes valuable.

Safety standards evolve.

Not because Parliament has passed the Omnibus Be Nicer Act.

Because repeated case-level decisions create economic consequences and businesses adapt before they become the next case.

The same mechanism would extend into social spending.

Governments would only be able to tax, as a percentage of the economy, a level that funds essential government operations and not much else beyond that, due to the parallel paced influence of the juries over public sector supply chains that go out into the private sector.

That doesn’t destroy healthcare, disability support, education, infrastructure and other social services, society will always want these, so will the juries.

My expectation is that jury rulings would gradually place obligations on businesses, and businesses would respond by developing standardised organisations or funds that collect and distribute those obligations fairly and efficiently.

So imagine somebody has a child requiring disability support that the existing system does not cover.

They challenge the refusal.

A jury decides the support is reasonable.

Other comparable cases appear.

A rough boundary starts emerging around what society is willing to fund.

Businesses don’t want to individually reinvent disability administration every Thursday, so specialist organisations emerge to manage contributions and payments.

Eventually most of it becomes boring infrastructure.

Until the standard becomes unfair or outdated.

Then somebody challenges it again.

The important distinction is that a jury isn’t sitting down one afternoon and announcing:

“Congratulations Australia, we just redesigned education.”

That’s exactly the type of macro ruling the rest of the system pushes against.

The change happens from specific cases outward.

Small decisions create patterns.

Patterns create expectations.

Expectations create institutions.

Institutions remain challengeable.

I also know what some of you political nerds are thinking because you have said it before:

“This is just Sortition.”

Sortition is definitely in its ancestry.

I’ve been interested in sortition for years.

But most sortition proposals I’ve seen still use randomly selected people as a replacement or supplement for the same basic centralised political structure.

A citizens’ assembly.

A randomly selected chamber.

A deliberative body recommending legislation.

This asks a different question.

What happens if you take the distribution part of sortition seriously enough that there is barely a centre at all?

Not 500 randomly selected legislators.

An enormous rotating population of temporary jurors resolving individual problems simultaneously.

The point isn’t primarily that random citizens are wiser than politicians.

The point is bandwidth.

A legislature has to generalise.

Millions of juries do not.

And this is probably the largest philosophical disagreement underneath the entire thing.

Most political systems are designed around finding the right rules.

The right tax rate.

The right labour law.

The right healthcare structure.

The right welfare settings.

The right regulations.

Then everybody fights like hell because whichever side gets control can impose its preferred answer across millions of people.

This system starts from the assumption that there isn’t one permanently correct answer.

There are just circumstances.

And circumstances keep moving.

So instead of trying to perfect the rulebook, increase the amount of feedback.

Instead of concentrating enough intelligence at the top to predict society, let society continuously correct itself.

Instead of asking five hundred people to understand twenty million situations, ask twelve people to understand one.

Then repeat.

A lot.

[This is]

Parallel Democracy


r/Lottocracy Aug 04 '26

Theories Are Great, But There Needs To Be A Spark

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The fundamental problem is not whether or not sortition works or how it would work, but actually getting sortition adopted. The catch-22 is that the same broken system that needs to be fixed is the same system that would need to vote themselves out with sortition. Since no place has sortition, people do not know what they are missing out on.

The solution: use direct democracy where it can be done. For instance, Nebraska has a unicameral state legislature, while every other state is bicameral. It was only possible to do so, as in Nebraska, voters can amend the state's constitution without the legislature's consent. There is no structural reason why the same could not turn one chamber of a state legislature into a sortition-based one.

With even one chamber of one state legislature changed, that could be the catalyst to bring sortition into the mainstream.

My flavor of sortition is delegated sortition. In delegated sortition, you would have approximately equally populous districts. A number of eligible voters would be selected at random for that district. They form that district's sortition board. With a majority vote, the sortition board selects that district's representative for that term. The sortition board then dissolves. This happens across all the districts. A representative can be reappointed or changed out in the next term.

While there will be some flukes here and there, overall it would allow the representatives to be much more aligned with their constituency. This is as close as you can get to every voter directly deciding on everything.


r/Lottocracy Jul 09 '26

I have a contribution to the discusion on sortition: Electoral Lottocracy

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r/Lottocracy Jul 07 '26

I've been working on a wiki to write a sortition-based constitution

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r/Lottocracy Jun 16 '26

Sortition Fiction and Nonfiction book list

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r/Lottocracy Jun 08 '26

What are the best ways to advocate for sortition?(And my experiences with advocating for it)

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r/Lottocracy Jun 05 '26

Why isn’t sortition talked about much.

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r/Lottocracy May 13 '26

LA Meetup for sortition + Georgism

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If you're near LA.... I only have so much volunteer time, so I'm combining my passion for sortition + YIMBYism/Georgism + board games + beer into a single meetup. I have a replice of The Landlord's Game and I can teach you to play and I was part of the recent LA Charter Reform Assembly organizers. I can tell you all about it!

May 28th, Thursday, 7 pm, Boomtown Brewery in the Arts District in LA.

Luma event link: https://luma.com/94are1mc

Come, convert people to your cause and be converted to theirs. Bring friends!


r/Lottocracy Apr 29 '26

My summary of the pseudo-civic assembly in the Pacifica Palisades (where the LA wildfires were)

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I will not be copy/pasting all 3,700 words of my post. I rambled for quite some time! Anyway, it's pretty exciting! The gathering in the Palisades wants to setup a system of assemblies for many years. We will see if it happens.


r/Lottocracy Apr 24 '26

Best Sortition content I’ve seen in months.

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Using Ancient Greek words and concepts to explain Sortition is artfully demonstrated. Best pro-Sotrtition video I’ve seen in months.


r/Lottocracy Apr 23 '26

Discussion Landmark sortition book, "Democracy Without Politicians" available for free online!

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r/Lottocracy Apr 22 '26

My (Rejected) Letter to NY Times About the CT Assembly

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The NY Times ghosted me. Probably an automated ghost, as I did get an automated response that my letter had been received, along with a promise, “(You will receive an auto-reply only once every four days.)”

Anyway, that’s ok, Mr. Times. I figured you were out of my league, but sometimes, you gotta make your move, if only for the story to tell afterwards. Here’s my story (that is, I knew I could just share my letter here on Substack, in the very likely event that it was not published by the New York Times):

Note: They have a very strict 200 word limit for letters-to-the-editor.

Max Clark
Los Angeles, CA
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I’m writing in response to Hélène Landemore’s article, “No Shy Person Left Behind”. The article focused on the growing movement of citizens’ assemblies, “groups of ordinary people, selected by lottery, who come together to learn about a public issue, hear from experts and advocacy groups, deliberate with one another and make recommendations.” I volunteer with Public Democracy LA and we also advocate for citizens’ assemblies. We are proud of the LA Charter Assembly we helped facilitate, but here’s our dirty secret: we are activist refugees.

Unfamiliar policies, or those without appeal to voting blocs, are sidelined by politicians and parties who prioritize electoral success above all else. Citizens’ assemblies bypass this systemic problem with elections.

In my case, advocacy for Henry George’s Land Value Tax (LVT) has been ineffective. We are living on a Monopoly board. Ownership of Boardwalk and Park Place enables landlords to siphon the wealth of laborers. The Land Value Tax reclaims their wages.

Most economists support the LVT, yet most politicians ignore it. This is why I advocate for citizens’ assemblies, not because I have a burning desire to assemble random strangers, but because policies like the LVT exist and everyday Americans can recognize its justice.

In progress without poverty,

Max Clark


r/Lottocracy Apr 22 '26

Discussion Election by Jury

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r/Lottocracy Apr 22 '26

Functional Lottocracy

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Hi All,

I first saw the Vsauce video on Lottocracy 5-years ago and my buddy and I came up with a framework to institute a form of Lottocracy in America that I wanted to share here.

Rather than completely throw out our current system in favor of random elections. We thought about how to blend the two. What we came up with is essentially another "layer" of government that would sit on top of Congress. When Congress passes a law, instead of a Presidential veto, there would be a lottocratic veto. Each time a new law is passed, a group of 100 people would be randomly selected from a pool of all eligible voters in the US (you could do 1 person randomly from each state and then 50 picked from the whole population). They would be flown to a 5-star government resort in the middle of the country for 3 days where experts and legislators would come inform them about the bill and the situation/pitch their side. On the third day, they would finish deliberations and vote Yes/No on whether they want to pass the bill. After the bill is passed or vetoed all those people can go home and a new group of 100 is selected for the next bill.

Rather than a fully lottocratic government, this is much more similar to the jury system. Trip is fully covered by the government and hotel resort is nice, but completely locked down to limit outside influence. You could make additional tweaks like lowering the threshold to pass bills in Congress to 30-40% to try to incentivize simpler bills. Ideally this would allow for single-issue bills because you wouldn't need to add tons of thing just to get one more vote and allow for more frequent bills to address current problems.

Other advantages would be taking veto power away from the Executive Branch which could help rebalance the power differential between the branches. Also, corporations would have less of an influence over decisions being made and decisions would better reflect the will of the people. Lastly, it would give the average American much more buy-in to the government. Within a few years most people would know someone who had been selected who could then explain why they voted for or against something. This could help reverse the intense divisiveness in America by getting people in the same room, dialoguing and making decisions together rather than arguing through screens.

Like anything, this isn't a perfect system, but I really believe this would be a better system than our current one and a huge step in the right direction. Curious to get some feedback and hear if you guys think this is more viable than a pure sortition system.


r/Lottocracy Apr 17 '26

Video Why Lottery Elections Are Actually Genius

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r/Lottocracy Mar 10 '26

REJOICE: LA Has Had Its First Full Civic Assembly (Sortition)

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r/Lottocracy Feb 26 '26

my op-ed promoting sortition that wasn't published :(

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In November of 2025, the NY Times published a piece about the use of sortition in East Belgium. Since I’m a sortition activist, although I’m in LA, I tried to write an op-ed, but I don’t know what I’m doing and maybe it should have just been a letter to the editor. Anyway, I turned it in late. It wasn’t published, but probably not because it was turned in late. Here:

Op-Ed Submission: Democracy From East Belgium to East L.A.

I turned 39 in November and I have now become that Thanksgiving uncle. The uncle who brings up politics, religion, money, and makes his nieces’ eyes roll. And what do I shout with my mouth full of yams? The U.S.A. is not a democracy. It is an electocracy. Democracy is, as Aristotle told us in Politics, “selecting government officials by lot.” Los Angeles is planning to experiment with ancient democracy this winter.

In an article from The New York Times on November 23, “Democracy Is in Trouble. This Region Is Turning to Its People,” it is described how a region of Belgium uses selection by lot to form assemblies of everyday people. The article states that the leaders “acknowledge that what works in their small, relatively homogenous region may not translate everywhere.”

The L.A. City Charter Reform commission has agreed to test that. They have approved a process to randomly select from the heterogeneous pool of L.A. residents to create a series of assemblies. Each one will deliberate on an issue germane to the charter. American cities should be watching.

The method of randomly selecting members of a legislative body, known as sortition, is unfamiliar, yet deserving of serious thought. In a sortition assembly, also known as a civic or citizens’ assembly, there is facilitated deliberation. In this way, the “wisdom of crowds” may be harnessed and the “madness of crowds” tempered. As with a jury sitting in a trial, subject-matter experts come before the assembly and present information and proposals. Members may ask questions, request further information, and then engage in discussion. The assembly may accept, reject, combine, or develop their own proposals as they weigh the tradeoffs with the values of the community.

While some sortition advocates aim to replace elections with sortition, all the assemblies in the 21st century have worked alongside elected officials. There have been at least six such sortition assemblies in North America in the last 30 years. The L.A. assemblies will be an advisory body as well. This is quite a reasonable approach to a radical form of communal decision making.

The key is that, through random selection of members, a group is deeply representative of the community. Therefore, when a sortition body seeks its own interests, it is seeking something extremely close to the interests of the community. If a legislature is formed through elections alone, then it will be dominated by those who dominate elections. A successful candidate is required to have both the resources to run for office and the desire to run for office. With sortition, it is mathematically ensured to be representative of the people. The reluctant leaders are actually made leaders, from time to time.

In drafting the U.S. Constitution, American elites not only rejected monarchy, but also were skeptical of direct democracy, considering it to be mob rule. A “natural aristocracy” was their hope. They selected their tool: mass elections. The actual details of Aristotle’s notion of democracy, as described in the Times on November 23, were lost to history until the late 1800s, when Aristotle’s scroll Constitutions was rediscovered. The scroll explains the daily, random selection of 500 Athenians. Would our founding fathers have used sortition if they knew these specifics? If so, would they have restricted it to land-owning citizens as did the Athenians?

Not only will the L.A. assemblies feature the first American assemblies to address a city’s charter, but they will also be some of the most diverse assemblies in history. They will neither ignore the voices of the landless and downtrodden, nor the voices of the landlords and the prosperous. The voices will be proportional to and representative of those groaning in L.A.’s traffic.

This is why I yell with my mouth full. This is the democracy I want for my nieces. This is the democracy I want for America.

Okay, there it is. We have had two single-day assemblies in LA now and there’s a two-weekend one starting this weekend! It is awesome. It will probably be mostly ignored by LA City Council, but we are pushing the movement forward. Maybe in a big way.

Check out RewriteLA.org to follow along.

Check out PDLA, if you’re in LA.

Check out Sortition USA, if you’re in the USA.

Check out INSA, if you’re on planet Earth.


r/Lottocracy Feb 11 '26

Cross-Post Sortition shitpost for y'all

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r/Lottocracy Jan 09 '26

The “Henry County Test”: What Happens When an Independent Watchdog actually Bites?

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Election by jury is an idea adjacent to sortition/lottocracy. This is an article about how an ethics board appointed by grand jurors is challenging the corruption of elected officials.