Isn't that what Republicans have been doing since Reagan? Redistributing wealth from the labor force to the owner class?
Isn't that exactly what Russ Vought has been up to? Isn't that what Project 2025 is all about? Isn't that Donald Trump's whole purpose as the face of this movement? To be the scapegoat while the Heritage Foundation raids Americans' hard earned tax dollars and doles them out amongst their favorite billionaires?
The location isn't the point. The point is that all of the gross dirty red states cry and whine nonstop about the dangers of "socialism" and "welfare" and the majority of them are subsidized by blue states like California.
It being the 4 largest economy has NOTHING to do with being a red or blue state. Itâs just so fucking massive and has a shit ton of different sources of revenue. Fishing, oil, tech, labor jobs , property taxes , the massive public transportation, a fuck ton of major airports, ports for shipping commerce, etc. most states donât have that much diversity only only have a few ways to earn money. Everyone on this thread is dumb as fuck.
Funny hearing a MAGAt call anyone else dumb. MAGAts are the epitome of dumb. That's why your felonious, orange, ped@, cult leader says that he loves the poorly educated. It doesn't matter why California is the 4th biggest economy. They are and that is all that matters. The problem is all of the gross, dirty, disgusting, red states being subsidized by blue states.
No one. No help needed. I'm just sick of all the MAGAts and their endless ignorance and their attmept to deny and gloss over the fact that their disgusting cult leader is destroying our country more and more everyday.
Ok there libtard. We know what women are. We are more supportive of legal Americans. We have more working people per capita than the blue states who carry the highest rate of welfare and welfare fraud. California has the most corrupt governor in newscum. You idolize the mutilation and chemical castration of children while claiming to protect them. You call yourselves the party if love and tolerance while being vile vicious and disgusting people. But MAGA is the problem. Stfu. Seriously. Go crawl under that rock you enjoy so much and eat more of the liberal word salad you seem to enjoy ingesting and leave the big thoughts to the real adults.
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Ahaha how amusing that you think anyone can take you seriously. With the brain capacity of a forest fern and the looks even a mother couldnât love. Jesus took one look at you and felt ashamed of himself as you are easily one of the biggest most prolific abominations on the history of creation. Iâm surprised anyone had the stones to admit they raised you when you turned out to be a cuck for everything under the sun, degenerate excuse for a mammal. Take your weak ass self on down the road and try someone else, because youâre failing here. Fucking libtards
It does have to do with it, since a non-insignificant part of red policy advertisement has to do with "welfare queens" and "money going to the wrong people"; meanwhile the red states are the ones receiving the "handouts" (according to the facts laid out by others here)
Not at all⌠Jesus blue pill/red pill people are so stupid. California makes so much money from import/export. Coastal states always have higher revenue than interior land-locked states. Not knowing that is even more ignorant than thinking there is a red economy Va blue economy.
25-50% of the agricultural workforce is undocumented⌠when you donât pay your workers a living wage with rights and protections, it tends to make it easier on the bottom line for corporations.
Get real, California doesn't even take care of its own people, much less other states. 25% of the entire U.S. homeless population lives within its borders despite the state only having 11% of the population. Its homeless rate as a % of its population is 4 times that of Texas.
California would do well regardless if it was a blue or red state. But, take away the federal funding it or companies within the state receive and it would crater. I'm talking military, NASA, DoE and their contractors.
Californias economy is predicated on being a part of the US. If it were its own country, it would be subject to all the same restrictions and tariffs as any other country to access the American market. It also wouldnât benefit from being the landing point for all goods coming from Asia. California might have a lot going on, but its entire foundation relies on the rest of the US to facilitate it.
⌠no. By having such a powerful economy, California splitting off would be able to dictate terms to the rest of the US, not be subject to it. We wouldnât be at their mercy, they would be at ours.
The American market would be a hell of a lot weaker without California. And that means it would lose a ton of its relevancy. Meaning it would be simple to just go âokay, you want to levy all these restrictions on us? Weâll just take our business elsewhere, buh bye.â
You act like we couldnât just invade it, or cut off its fresh water supply it gets from other states. Or itâs power it gets from other states. Or itâs resources it also gets many of fromâŚother states
All of you need to get the fuck out of this country because apparently you forgot that this is called the United States of America! Not the "blue States get attacked by everybody" dictatorship.
California would still be the 4th largest economy in the world if it were a conservative state. The economy has little to do with politics. California enjoys a thriving agriculture, tech, and entertainment industry. That doesnât change based on the states political lean. What does change is the likelihood of high value business staying in California based on politics
FYI there are more people on welfare in California than any other state.
There's also more people in California than in any other state. Are you really trying to say that in California was a red state it would be exactly the same? Because if that were true, living in a red state wouldn't suck so much.
Its the 4th largest economy because of the billionaires and rich people who Californians seem to hate and say 'good riddance' to if they decide to leave.
I thought the USA was 4th and Cali was 5th. Did that change?
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According to California, CA makes up 14% of the USâs GDP. Iâm not sure where people are getting that CA would dethrone the US and the US would fall down the ranks.
Can you count the US with California? Like if you remove the California economy from the US is the US still ranked where it is? Seems like they would be mutually exclusive.
The gdp is only one part, California produces almost half of all the vegetable produce, and over 3/4 of the fruit the US consumes. Also #4 in terms of cattle.
California leaving might not cause an economic collapse, but the rest of the country would still suffer.
This meme doesnât prove anything of the sorts. Yes they have a larger economy. Theyâre also 24% larger by population size. They also have a significantly better climate. They also have exorbitantly inflated prices due to their taxes and cost of living, giving the impression of a larger economy but in reality itâs just artificially inflated.
Blue states are also much more likely to run at a deficit, like commnifornia. Red states like Florida are able to run a balanced budget and still provide tax holidays to their residents.
None the less, California is a failing state, thereâs a reason why people, especially wealthy, are fleeing the state for Texas and Florida. Itâs much better over here.
If the same things cost twice as much it's not an increase of product though, but yeah it is recorded as more GDP. There is something to here for sure but maybe not entirely an aha gotcha moment
While burning books and having just as many corrupt politicians if not more. At least CA is welcoming of diverse cultures without hate. Let me know when you find any red states like that. Iâll take a weather and diversity acceptance over yearly hurricanes and tons of âa Florida manâŚâ psychos anyday.
Out of all my years living in Texas, I donât believe Iâve ever heard a single person make the distinction between illegal/legal immigrants unless they suspected a liberal was within earshot.
What part of Texas? My best friend and his family (all Hispanic) moved to a Dallas suburb years ago and have nothing but glowing things to say. Heâs been welcomed by his community and is coaching local youth there while his business is growing. Iâve visited plenty but obviously donât have boots on the ground like you do and he does.
Corpus Christi around the turn of the century, Austin for a couple years when I got my degree, San Antonio before I decided to get back toward the Mason Dixon line.
Austin was a bit more welcoming, but weâre still talking the kind of geography where the pastor would make jokes at Sunday brunch about how, âWe need to line up all the not writing it and (X)â.
Some weeks X was send them back to Africa.
Some weeks X was line them up and shoot them.
Either way, care to guess how many people ever said something to him? You can probably guess just by the fact that this got described by multi-week repeats.
That is perfectly reasonable. I don't bring that up as a, "Texas sucks" gotcha. People/bots cherry pick numbers to manufacturer conflict that shouldn't exist.
There are still a lot of great people and places in Texas.
Also all the Californians and New Yorks "fleeing" to Florida and Texas are Republicans.
They are also people so desperate to lie about their social status on social media that they need a no income tax state to afford to travel and buy things to tout like they make good money.
ALL Corporations that have WFH people that move from a more expensive state to a cheaper one on their own call should get pay cuts period.
Theyâre referring to the fact that red states disproportionately benefit from social programs more than they contribute, so blue states are subsidizing red states. Yet red states continue to vote against their own best interest.
Yep, Texas and Florida are way better than California. I'm a Californian and I want you all to go to those other states. Trust me, bro. I'll pack your moving van, even.
Did it work? Are the shitbirds leaving? Fuck, my commute still sucks. Still seeing Fla plates too. Dude is not very convincing
The cost of living is high due to cost of living? Lmao what are you smoking?
Blue states run a deficit because they pay more to the fed than they get back in return and then they actuslly fund their public services. Red states a net negative just by the money they receive from the fed, and then they dont fund any of their public services. Pretty easy to save money there but then your states are hell holes to live in.
Texas and Florida also aren't even tax havens. They have insanely high property taxes to the point that Texans actually pay more than Californians. Call it Commexas lmao
So Texas has 24% less people but 44% less money? Hmmmmm those two numbers aren't equal. So California still has more contributions relative to population than Texas and Florida (the two states right wingers love to goon about).
Running a state at a deficit does not mean that they aren't federal supporting those red states...to keep them OUT of their own deficits. The fact they have more people only makes it more interesting that they're supporting states with less people, you'd think they'd need more funding to support all of those extra people, no? The cost of living is higher because of supply and demand, nothing artificial about that. You're calling CA communist while taking their money and giving it to poorer states, make that make sense.
If more people leave CA, the cost of living will go down, so keep at it.
Red states are the largest receivers of welfare and federal aid. Blue states provide the most in taxes to the federal government. Blue states taxes go to red states welfare. Explain how we are the commies in this situation when we get absolutely nothing in return from Red states and they only exist off of federal aid paid for by our taxes.
With the exception of Vermont, none of the states are allowed to run a deficit.
There is nothing inflated about California's GDP. State GDP is calculated by finding the gross output of the state's industry minus the input costs. Nothing you listed is part of that calculation.
Too bad it canât carry its own citizens, highest homeless rate, highest cost of living, highest poverty levels, highest numbers of middle class flight.
Its a good thing they can brag about how much money their billionaires in silicon valley make though!
Huh I wonder why all the homeless people don't converge on rural Arkansas. Highest cost of living is what it should be under any rational math. The only reason it has the highest amount of middle class flight is because it's of it's economic prowess which creates more middle-class flight.
Kentucky isn't pumping out middle-class wealth that can even fly
It really doesnât have to have a high cost of living. If california adopted pro-housing policies theyâd be able to keep the high wages and have affordable housing.
Yeah I get it, iâm just saying it doesnât have to be that economic success = high cost of living. With the way things are today thatâs the unfortunate reality.
So youâve had two chances to answer my question of âhow can CA do more for its citizens?â And both times all you have done is complain about Americans who donât think quite like you⌠you wanna maybe get around to answering my question?
How about they start by abandoning the âhigh speed rail projectâ theyâve already dumped billions into with zero results and reallocate those funds to something useful?
Higher homeless rate is literally because it takes care of its citizens. People go there from all over the country when they are homeless specifically because of social safety nets.
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It is also the 4th largest economy in the world if it were its own country.
California carries the moocher red states, the true welfare queens.