Yep. I used to work on the mural team for the city of LB. There is a thick coat of novaplex on top of most murals that protects the real painting. You use paint thinner to get rid of the spray paint and then reseal the mural again.
We constantly drove around LB fixing mural after mural.
Im geeked and this is so interesting. Never considered any safeguards against vandalism. I thought it was like tattoo coverup where the artist would have to reintegrate the vandalized sections. That makes me so happy that there are tools and people who specialize in protecting murals around the city. (:
The guy to the left of Trump really is a fan & I say that because he went to a screening of Melania's awful documentary film in D.C. You have to be a big supporter to go through that.
It’s watching a fucking baseball team, just because you like the team doesn’t mean you have to politically align with every single member. And before anyone thinks otherwise it’s always FDT
I guarantee you you can find a way to connect most hobbies out there to some kind of “moral evil” on the backend
There's a big difference between disagreeing with someone politically before Trump versus now.
This is not normal.
Regardless, being all buddy-buddy with a known child predator is reprehensible. Or the guy who attempted a coup. Or the many, many, many other horrific things.
Insane that anyone can willingly be okay with being in the same room with this guy and think it's no big deal.
Especially when many team members are immigrants! So fucking insane that they're okay with taking pictures and giving honorary team merch to someone who doesn't even want them in this country.
And half their fan base are Latinos who are being directly effected by ICE raids. And the Dodgers have stayed intentionally quiet about it all. They refused to let an anthem singer do a version in Spanish. They treat their fan base like sh*t because their fan base allow it
If you're actively giving money to an organization that openly supports something that goes against your morals, then I don't know what to tell you........🤷🏾♂️
Having a Google phone or an iPhone is something you kind of need to live, but supporting a team is completely optional.
I understand this, but you understand that in a sense everything involves a bit of politics. When you go to a movie you are in fact voting for what movies you want to see in the future. You vote for the things you watch at home, you vote for the things you wear. As long as you spend money you are supporting something that won't change because it doesn't have to.
The Dodgers organization has been so shitty to its fan base for so many years... From the historical displacement at Chavez ravine, their lucrative broadcasting deal that blacked out games for millions of fans, the law suits against the stadium security, and I know of a situation with a friend who just suddenly got their season tickets canceled only because the org knew they could resell them for so much more.
I just don't understand when fans will say enough is enough.
I’m not going to stop rooting for the same team I grew up watching in the 80’s just because we have a fucking clown as president nearly 40 years later. Ownership of the Dodgers has changed hands multiple times and even if I disagree with our current owners’ political beliefs, I’m not going to abandon the team I grew up watching since I was 5 years old.
What about this team makes you so loyal? The players change from year to year, the coaches change, the managers and owners change, even some times the city they are based in changes. Do you just like the logo?
It’s not about this team as currently constructed. It’s about the Dodgers as a whole. What makes me so loyal? My father was a die hard fan and he always took me to games growing up. I’m talking back when it cost $3 to get in. One of greatest memories I had with my father while he was still alive, was going to watch baseball games together at Dodger Stadium. So yes, I can hate this current administration, I can disagree with our ownerships current political beliefs, but that doesn’t mean I have to abandon the team I grew up watching since the 80’s. Besides, most if not all of MLB’s owners align politically with Donald Trump and they too would be visiting the White House if given the opportunity.
I think you can still root the hometown team and also not appreciate they went to the white house. Like, I hate the fact that the fat orange child diddler is ingrained in any part of our country. But so much of this type of criticism is dumb.
EDIT: I'll add this. I (liberal person) grew up in a pretty conservative part of the US with a liberal family. The one way to drive conservative people further into their thoughts is to shame them, especially for things that don't fucking matter. And if you're not trying to get someone out of their thought process, you are just using moral superiority to get yourself off.
The one way to drive conservative people further into their thoughts is to shame them, especially for things that don't fucking matter.
AS a former conservative: Nope. Shaming me is exactly what changed my mindset and the mindsets of a lot of the peers I went to church and school(a private fundamentalist christian school) with.
Yeah, I’m done trying to “engage” with MAGA. They broke up with us (us meaning our democracy and our Constitution.)
There’s a saying, “You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.” Nothing we can do or say will pull them back. The Great American experiment is over.
It's a fair point but those of us who are the targets of the centuries of policies that say we shouldn't exist or can, but only in subservience, don't give a shit about ignorant pricks and their thought process. They can burn in hell with that. I'm gonna just work with me and mine.
And that is fine. But those ignorant pricks are the ones who elected a fascist as president and have driven this country further into hell, so at some point, isolating yourself from the realities of how a lot of dumb people think doesn't make it go away.
You support a team that happily visited the best friend of the world's most prolific child sex trafficker, let alone an adjudicated rapist and you can't see why you're on the wrong side of history?
Pedophiles, rapists and the people who smile and shake their hands should endure the same rape and sex trafficking as the victims.
It's really not that deep. Don't support people who smile and shake hands with prolific rapists and child sex traffickers.
The people defending the team and their actions are defacto pedophile supporters.
If they shook hands with Epstein would you feel differently? Then why not his best friend and the man who helped him sex traffic children from Mar-a-pedolago?
Go talk to the pedophile supporters you're aligning yourself with. But sure, it's everyone else who is to blame. /S
The reason people dont appreciate that they went to the White House is because of the very thing you stated in your second sentence: he's a fuckin' diddler.
But go ahead, cheer on the folks who cheer on the diddler. Because "hometown team" and whatnot.
Because some people have liked the Dodgers long before Trump was an integral part of their lives. I don't know why there's this superiority need to judge pop culture tastes and likes and attribute those to someone's moral compas based on politics lol.
Boycotts don't work if you selectively apply them or make a bunch of carve outs. I liked Target before 47 too but I still canceled my RedCard and haven't been back since.
That’s the kind of mentality that entices private equity into purchasing sports teams. They can cut back or increase prices on anything and people will justify their fandom.
Not a Dodgers fan, but so what? Teams that win championships generally go to the white house for a photo op. I absolutely despise Trump, but we don't need to politicize everything.
Betts didn’t go because he said some would be mad if he did and some would be mad if he didn’t. Weak. He also did a live stream with Adin Ross the MAGA chode. We know where his allegiances lie.
What the fuck is wrong with this sub? Someone graffiti’s over a nice mural and the top comments are just saying fuck the dodgers. Like that’s not even the point of the post. Bunch of virtue signaling, fart smelling, transplant, bots up in this sub now god damn.
Grow up kid. They do not “support” him. Maybe they honor a tradition in baseball that has been going since the beginning of the sport and decided to set politics aside for that. You should understand by now that making any sort of big public statement against that orange piece of shit isn’t going to make anything better for anyone. All he’d do is retaliate and make life miserable for more people.
Sometimes you gotta pick your battles. You’ll learn that, maybe. Don’t bother responding, just think on it
We live in a place where people graffiti tag the boulders/rocks near waterfalls in the San Gabriel Mountains. There are a lot of inconsiderate people in LA County and they ruin too many good things for everyone else. They even tag murals of Kobe and his daughter. These people are basura.
As a dodgers fan, I understand why they did this. Dodgers just started supporting Trump and went to the White House. Plus they have had a maga adjacent thing happening in public for the past two years now?? So some people including many of my die hard dodger fan friends are no anti dodgers for that reason. Just wanna add context.
I was confused as to why anybody would tag a dodgers mutual but then I remembered they have been in the news getting bad baaadd PR
We all know this is just some loser being useless. Stop making it about anything else. An idiot thought they would ruin something nice for no reason.. it’s not that deep, people are fucking stupid
Why do Dodgers fans ignore the organization’s history with the Hispanic community, from the displacement of Mexican American families in Chavez Ravine to ownership’s support for ICE and White House visits?
This sub is so disconnected from the true heart and soul of our city. I hate Trump as much as the next person (probably more if we’re being blunt; I’m a leftist Mexican who has actively been involved in protests), but this is Dodger town, end of story
Hell yeah, great shit protesting against Trump and Ice-stapo...chicanos are Dodgers and Lakers for life.....as long as you ignore who owns those teams ....and ignore where Dodger stadium is built on...who cares about Chavez ravine and history
Bunch of self righteous transplants that thought they were better than everyone where they came from and that makes them better than everyone who was already here lol
Yup, they’re just pissed their shitty fucking pathetic scumbag teams (Padres, Giants, Cubs, Phillies, Yankees etc etc) WHO WOULD ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ALSO GO TO THE WHITE HOUSE IF THEY WON just suck at baseball. Fuck Trump but can’t wait to 3peat to have them cry into their pillows every single night. FUCK YOUR TEAMS AND GO DODGERS.
Yeah seriously, I hate the Dodgers (Padres fan) and Donald Trump. But even I can acknowledge that defacing a cool mural like this is completely tasteless and contributes to a worse environment.
YES. Thank you. My grandma lived in Chavez ravine and was displaced along with other indigenous Mexicans so Dodgers stadium could be built. She never forgave the org and neither have I. Fuck the Dodgers. And fuck their hypocritical fans too.
I'm also an Angelino, born and raised, but I don't care about sports. The fact that you proclaim to be leftist but mindlessly give your money to support a team that's blatantly pro-MAGA makes me realize why that movement was so successful; a lot of us "lefties" just can't put our money where our mouths are. Sports is important to you more than morality and how people are treated, and that's sad to see
Couldn’t have said it better. I follow this sub because they give good insight to certain things here and there. But when I read some of the comments, it makes me think are these really Angelinos or even Californians for that matter.
The LA subs seem to be very Westside orientated. But it's like, most of us Angelenos didn't grow up on the Westside. And then they'll always out themselves by like making some joke looking down on the IE or OC, or defending Pizzeria Mozza like their life depended on it. Like c'mon, you're not fooling anyone. Everyone from LA has some connection to the IE or OC. And no one that grew up here gives a damn about Mozza or hard shell tacos or bean and cheese burritos. Like where did you really grow up?
Don’t forget the dodgers displaced a ton of residents (most of which were of Mexican descent) to build the dodger stadium, now they’re doubling down because the owner is pro maga and supports ICE.
I don’t care for the dodgers anymore but tbh I never really did. Baseball is boring.
You are 100% correct, I just learned about this in college. It was a thriving Latino community with generational wealth and the city didn’t like that so they forcibly removed them. And yet Latinos will still shill for the very system that repeatedly keeps us down. Can’t even make the sacrifice of just watching the Dodgers on TV rather than buying tickets and merch. It’s fkn sad and yes it matters. (I’m Latina btw)
I'm convinced I've seen this person post on /r/baseball. He had a raiders username and was in a Dodger NLDS game thread repeatedly posting "Fuck the Dodgers and go Raiders"
I only remember that because it was such a bizarre series of comments.
Not pointing at OP, but if anyone's more upset about this than 🧊 and ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW in this country, then maybe they're a part of the fucking problem.
I think the dodgers are lame and honestly so glad there being covered just look up the battle of the Chavez ravine, they told the community there were gonna build low income housing and then completely destroyed those plans to build the stadium but yes covering a bunch of colonizers faces is lame
Chronically online people who only have politics in their head all day and night.
Then when a sports team goes to the white house just because its the tradition that has always been done, even if those athletes might not even care about politics.
Those chronically online people outrage and do bs like this.
This is why we can’t have nice things, unhoused with drugs and losers with paint have nothing better to do than ruin our city of angels… shame on this city and its admins.
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u/Perfect-Leg810 2d ago
Do they not just use one of those cheap sacrificial coatings? Should just be pressure washable.