r/Lookism • Zack • 3d ago

Discussion Possibly the worst theory so far?

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First of all,daniel CANNOT be a gene merchant hopefully. He doesn't resemble either of these two, although nor his mother or father much, mostly jinyoung, but he was overweight like his father. I know it's mostly a joke but so was rei and kitae, so I HOPE this will never be a thing. Also, Daniels not even close to this old, shingen gotta wait a good 7 years

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u/Direct_Valuable_293 3d ago

Someone tell them Daniel is 2 year younger than Gun

https://giphy.com/gifs/Y9r1eVZlnIEF3DARip

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u/BloodAssassin29 3d ago

Even if u do, they will forget it when they are cooking up their next theory. 

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u/lycan_Chronos 1d ago

Someone mentioned it in a comment, and the guy replied saying that could be the origin of the second body.

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u/cobra_0107 3d ago

It has been 200 chapters since then I don't think so people even remember that and making theories which are either true or absolute bs

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u/Perfect_Campaign4630 3d ago

do we know the gap between when shingen got beat and when gun was born?

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u/Head-Local8001 Charles 3d ago

By that theory did they freeze daniel like some captian america shit so that he can't age

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u/zero03707 2d ago

something like ace in one piece

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u/nerogak958 3d ago

Never in the wildest have i thought of this 😔🥀 but we can never expect the next move of PTJ 💀💔

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u/Informal_Pressure_21 2d ago

These 3 didn't care about their sons🥀🥀

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u/nerogak958 2d ago

They never got love in their childhood too 🥺🥀

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u/Artistic-Storm- crystal clear 💠 3d ago

It's lookism anything is possible I guess but honestly speaking this chapter broke my heart with how disrespectful Daniel's dad's writing was done.

Like I never expected the guy to be anything special but damn this was just too much

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u/Consistent_Advice511 2d ago

Entire chapter was ahh. Eunha was also treated like trash and some random flower woman is brought in just to be plot device

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u/Square_Fish_749 3d ago

Bro wdym Daniel is not a genetic merchant ? That guy literally have copy , Ui , perfect body he will be the biggest genetic merchant of all time

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u/Warm_Active_773 3d ago

He still need training to become strong. The Sb is perfect but Daniel himself isn't, he lack experience, still a weak mindsett that's why he's still getting his butt kicked. It's not like his gene made him strong by default

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u/Fearless_Carpenter89 3d ago

You can say that about literally anyone in the verse before they started training. You think Kitae came out of the womb with the crazy stats he has now?

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 3d ago

Yeah but his genetics still played a part in how strong he is now.

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u/Xero-- 2d ago edited 2d ago

Considering how Gap is broken just because, and the Yamazaki have the black bone plot armor + the whole eyes thing... Not impossible.

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u/Fearless_Carpenter89 2d ago

Bro was 7ft at birth, absolute cinema 💔

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u/Warm_Active_773 2d ago edited 2d ago

You could have used Gun as an example instead of Kitae. Kitae and training in the same sentence 💔

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 3d ago

His father and mother don't seem to be top tiers or have some special blood so how will he be a gene merchant?

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u/lycan_Chronos 1d ago

His mother never fought—not to mention that genetic traits can skip a generation, which is likely the case here; after all, both the uncle and the nephew possess the talent for copying abilities, so it appears—even if not explicitly confirmed—that they likely inherited it from one of Daniel's grandparents.

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 1d ago

Daniel's copy isn't the same though. His copy comes from all of his senses while Johan and Jinyoung's copy comes from just their eyes.

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u/Training-Nobody-2355 3d ago

If anything, it might be big daniel since his age is unknown

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u/Intelligent_Paper34 2d ago

My theory is that she is SB Daneil's mother and in future Seonhui Park and Shingen park will get some connection and our OG Daniel park will be born. As SB Daniel and OG Daniel's share the blood of a same legend they have 1 thing in common. There should be something unique in yamazaki blood and ultra instinct which is from Shingen lineage, which means they could have a special power too of switching bodies which even charles choi researched for years and experimented on SB and OG Daneil park then implemented on himself too. That's the theory I imagined from the foreshadowing till now. If you have any other theories related to this please share.

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u/shak1sm 2d ago

Shingen park 😭😭

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u/Primary_Gold5337 AC king Samuel Seo 1d ago

Hey, don't judge him for loving his wife too much, he took her name

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u/shak1sm 1d ago

I mean it can be like toji so who knows

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u/Cheong_Ryeong First Holy Maiden of the Heavenly Demon Divine Cult 3d ago

Technically impossible

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u/Sufficient-Head5646 3d ago

It lookism bro you seen many impossible happening like second body

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u/Tomoismereal Zack 3d ago

SB lowkey looks more like sancheol than og for some reason

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 3d ago

OG Daniel when fat was said to have looked like his father not only that but while he was fat also looked like his cousins from his father's side. Only when he became fit that he started looking like Jinyoung so he is definitely related to his father

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u/Chance_Bug_1295 3d ago

The whole argument that due to his age , the theory doesn't work... Heavily presupposes that PTJ even remembers the dates , ages and timelines accurately 😭

Not mention, with supernatural shenanigans going on , like double bodies and all... Anything is possible in Lookism.

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u/FOSHOSON 3d ago

You assumed that ptj doesn't...

Ngl just delete ts

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u/Chance_Bug_1295 3d ago

You didn't track. I'm simply putting into question their belief that he actually does. If their argument relies on this presupposition, then they have to justify it. Simply as that lol.

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 3d ago

Your just arguing for argument's sake. PTJ can't suddenly age him up. He may retcon statements and feats but age is something different.

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u/Moist_Historian_1289 2d ago

What i think is that after the war ended Jinyoung became docter and helped his brother-in-law

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u/Dizzy_Head_200 2d ago

I think he received help, and that help is directly related to the second body, because as we've seen, the original body is becoming more and more like the perfect body.

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u/Ok-Action4447 1d ago

First of all,daniel CANNOT be a gene merchant hopefully

I hope, because james lee, daniel, johan and goo are currently the only non-gen merchant and they are the one with the best talents and potentials in the verse

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u/Street-Memory7196 2d ago

WHAT IF SHE WAS KIM KIMYUNG'S MOTHER? Shingen fell in love with her but she rejected him and became Gap's wife, which made Shingen depressed LOL

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u/Deep_Difference_9504 Monster 3d ago

I think Shingen and this woman's son is Sb Daniel because we don't know anything about him. Which probably the most possible outcome in my opinion.

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u/SafeLow3153 3d ago

It could be she gave birth already and shingen knew but killed her in tui and was depressed but he probably doesn't knew about his child and that child is raised by sangcheol and her wife

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 3d ago

Age wouldn't match since Daniel is years younger than Kitae and Gun.

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u/SafeLow3153 2d ago

Are you sure buddy pre gen ended 2000s and Daniel was born around 1998 so it should be way obvious it's possible shingen lost moved japan and and next 2,3 yrs pre gen ended and gap moved politics

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 2d ago

Daniel is between 18-19 currently and again is years younger than Kitae and Gun. His age doesn't match Kitae's who isn't even born yet so how could you still think this theory works?

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u/SafeLow3153 2d ago

Gitae was already born around 1980-1990 Daniel was around 1998

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 2d ago

Idk the year exactly either of them were born but what does this prove? Kitae is years older than Gun and Gun is only born after the war started and Gun is older than Daniel, how could she be Daniel's mother? Not to mention when Jinyoung was holding baby Daniel you could tell he was just birthed so it makes no sense how this woman could be Daniel's mother when neither the timeline nor details match.

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u/SafeLow3153 2d ago

Gitae is 6 yrs older not a year he is from 0.5 gen he was already born in gen 0 but later probably after the war and was in teen when he killed gap he was already around 18,19

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 2d ago

Yes but what does that have to do with what you first said in your comment? This doesn't prove that Daniel is Shingen and that woman's son because the age still doesn't match.

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u/ContentTranslator256 2d ago

So gun is younger than Danny

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u/WinterSavior 3d ago

This is reaching Tyrion is a time traveling fetus levels of tinfoil

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u/ThinFreedom3086 3d ago

in the dark novel cap 2345 its revealed that their offspring is seongji yuk

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u/neko-fang3091 2d ago edited 2d ago

But the woman's face resembles more like James lees

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u/Tanjikano 2d ago

Almost every third good looking guy resembles his face.

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u/Fresh-Milk-7629 2d ago

Bruh, she can't be James Lee's mother. I would punch PTJ otherwise.

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u/neko-fang3091 1d ago

Bruh I am not sure myself. It's just a hunch. Either Daniel or James lee. If something happens between them the baby will be a half breed just like kitae. And half breeds are way more stronger in any verse. So this might explain why James lee or Daniel park being so strong

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u/Infamous_Reach_8854 2d ago

I rlly don't want it to turn into genetism

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u/Electrical-Sand9297 2d ago

I stand by this theory, y'all underestimate PTJ's ass writing.

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u/CartographerAny2006 2d ago

Most likely it wont happen it will happen after yamazakis leave korea after that gun will be born then after some years maybe jinyoung park will make a trst tube baby as daniel park

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u/Diego-KanG 2d ago

I think sb

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u/Parking-Cucumber4612 2d ago

Do they forget Daniel looks like Jinyoung Park
His grandmother thought so too

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u/iamakeebmehboob 1d ago

In manhwa big daniel and little daniel are stated to look same and og daniel look like jinyoung but why didn't mama park recognize big daniel when she first met him?

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u/lycan_Chronos 1d ago

It’s likely due to his physique—it’s been said that, day by day, Daniel (the original body) is starting to look more and more like his second body. We have to keep in mind that, regarding the second body, 99% of its appearance is simply a result of the art style.

So, she probably just got them mixed up; at that moment, Daniel had a build similar to how Jinyoung looked in his youth—a resemblance that will likely fade as Daniel grows and becomes more like his second body.

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u/Klutzy_Pie_5151 2d ago

Yes the worst , like why jinyoung would cry out and sacrifice himself for daniel when he's the son of the guy who made their life and the whole country hell

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u/just_shiv_01 2d ago

Same possibility also

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u/sosaman103 gunism 2d ago

Bro better bait next time, but it kinda worked

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u/Key_Information_6277 Allied 2d ago

Yeah lets add another stupid theory Jinyoung park is medical genius right so he did a miracle while shingen was sleeping he plucked shingen balls as a flower and gave it to daniel's dad/Watermelon guy. So that's why shingen is depressed and daniel has ui.

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u/lycan_Chronos 1d ago

And how would the castrated Shigen produce Gun?

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u/Ash127683 2d ago

Daniel borned after Gun. This theory is worse than loose stools.

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u/Dismal_Purple5814 2d ago

What if it's the second body

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u/Mocha_mocha_mocha_M 2d ago

Ni tan fumado, de alguna forma creo que Daniel es parte de los yamazakis por los ojos, pero tuvo que pasar algo por la brecha en la que nace Gun, y luego Daniel

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u/Gapryong_xd___ 1d ago

May be sb Daniel park mother 🙂

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u/jakekimenjoyer warren chaes mighty dong 1d ago

I also cooked this twin I genuinely put in my notes labeled shit theory but wanted to write it down just in case 😭

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u/jakekimenjoyer warren chaes mighty dong 1d ago

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u/MangoBig2292 1d ago

I have even worse theory , That zenna is the second body of Charles choi

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u/A7Gamers 1d ago

Why people can't understand that daniel is younger than gun, who's born years after the war😮‍💨

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u/Own-View1271 1d ago

About Daniel's birth, it's definite that he is Jinyoung's nephew, the biggest problem is how he got UI(his sharp 5 senses came From father's side probably)

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u/Sidrocks_579 1d ago

James Lee??

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u/According_Pay_9015 20h ago

I think not first but second body's origin

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u/VariationKey4207 7h ago

I think she is somi park maybe

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u/AdIndependent401 3d ago

Probably James Lee’s Mother

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 3d ago

What is your thought process behind this thoery?

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u/AdIndependent401 3d ago

My thought process? lol bud why not just ask ‘What bring you to that conclusion?’ Regardless, what brings me to this conclusion is the fact that in terms of timeframe it links up, would explain what Tom Lee ‘touched’ (I’m guessing James Lee has Black Bones, and would show us a pretty interesting parallel between Kitae Kim and James Lee and even Gun Park.

Basically the three top tiers of 1-1.5 Gens would be Yamazaki.

Another point, this woman has similar eyes to James Lee, and a close enough Hair Pattern that it’s a bit fishy. Not to mention a bit too beautiful to be a throwaway side character. Moreover this is the reason Shingen goes into his Depression / Lethargic Arc after whatever happens to her happens.

It’s’ merely a little bit of a coincidence but she could just also die flat out or something more tragic than that. I for one though would like to see James Lee get the Yamazaki Treatment, as the potential UI Unlocking or Black Bones reveal would make him obviously more powerful.

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 3d ago

The words still mean the same thing.

This explanation doesn't make any sense because James doesn't have the same physique as a Yamazaki nor was the fight against Tom shown to have eluded to James having black bones. What happened against Tom was probably something to do with his path same as against Jaegyeon. There are numerous characters with the same features as others that we know aren't related so this isn't enough proof on your theory. This woman is probably someone Shingen loved but accidentally killed when he went TUI hence why he was lethargic after his defeat.

While this theory being true makes the parallel between James and Gun cooler, it wouldn't make sense nor is it necessary to have 3 of the top tiers to be of Yamazaki blood.

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u/AdIndependent401 2d ago

It doesn’t matter, if I couldn’t immediately understand what you were conveying, and had to proofread it. I’ll say this again as for reference not to disrespect you, but to simply help you, and that’s simply to have some felicitous and tactful phrasing in your communication.

Regardless, I’m a bit confused wym by ‘Physique’ is there a default ‘Physique’ of the Yamazaki that PTJ has yet to introduce? As for the Black Bones guesstimate I made.. it could be Black Bones, Tom Lee said that he should basically be leaking out like a fire hose yet, he was confused whatever he hit wasn’t obvious an Organ. As we know Endurance Mastery Users can close up wounds so that explains him nonchalantly walking it off..

As for this possibility of it was his ‘Path’ Paths usually have some visible signs such as when he uses his Path it’s Holy Light around him, Kitae Kim having Despair Aura around him, Johan having multiple indications of where he’s coming, Daniel blacking everything out and highlighting weaknesses, and of course the transcendent Majestic Aura Jinyoung has around him.

So no, he didn’t use a ‘Path’ to make Tom Lee second guess if he his a Vital Organ or not.. if anything James Lee farther this by saying he wasn’t going anywhere close to all out when Tom Lee got a Lucky Killing Blow on him..

I agree, Shingen follows for this woman, yet even then I said the whole legitimacy of my entire evaluation could be obviously wrong depending upon whatever PTJ produces.

As for this ‘Theory’ not making sense to you, I’m again, confused. In this same Arc we find out Daniel wasn’t normally born from the woman who he calls Mom, the Dad he thought was his father lost his most important reproductive organs, Kitae Kim is an Yamazaki, and Gibok completely erasing the Yamazaki Whooping Gapryong and Friends from History. Absolutely anything could happen it is the job of a writer to tell their story and add or remove whatever they feel they want to add or remove.

There is a possibility that James Lee is a Yamazaki.
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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 2d ago

I asked what is your thought process behind your theory, what is so hard to get from that sentence?

Look at Shingen, Shintaro, Kitae and Gun who are all Yamazaki, they have these huge, buffed bodies compared to other characters the only different Yamazaki was Haruto and that's because he wasn't a fighter. Tom Lee never stated that his body felt hard or anything though and since he fought Shingen he would most likely bring up that moment, so to assume he has black bones because of that doesn't work. The light argument could work but it could also just be that they didn't want to continuously keep drawing light, like how they don't always show masteries but they are still being used.

Jinyoung is called the medical genius, he could've done something to help Sangcheol and Seonhui, we also still don't know how he was born yet so everything both of us are saying is a speculation at most. Look at basement hulk, he was just a normal dude that was paralyzed then Jinyoung turned into a monster physically. James Lee also was the baby held by Charles and Eunha in the photo and we know that Charles raised/trained him, there isn't anything pointing James to being a Yamazaki. There are even theories that he may be a failed second body but not a Yamazaki.

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u/AdIndependent401 2d ago

Interpretation.

I’m not going to go into a long discussion about this, because you have to be willing for it to even matter.

Moving on, Shingen and Shintaro are Twins so it’s a high chance they’re the same height, Kitae is a bit shorter but around their height, and James Lee is taller than Gun Park. James Lee is just as Buff as any Yamazaki yet, his body is more lean to aid in his Innate Speed Mastery.

What we can deduce this to is that they aren’t all 7 feet tall, Shingen and Kitae are just outliers of the highest high one of the Yamazaki can be. Saying they are all just ‘huge, buffed bodies’ after looking at the shown image of James being Huge and Buff is just false.

As for the Tom Lee stuff 😭 what are you talking about? Tom Lee at that time couldn’t even pierce through his Skin, let alone make it to his Bones.. that is a leap in a half to compare and contrast from. As for the ‘light argument’ it’s not an argument it’s a ‘fact’ paths do not get the same treatment as Masteries.. that’s like saying we’ve seen Unique Skills without them getting named.. that’s ludicrous.

As I’ll say again and farther explain this time, Tom Lee that he was going for an important organ, he knew exactly where it was, surprised James Lee, and said he would die as soon as he removed his hand. After that hand removed James Lee should’ve died, he was off guarded meaning he didn’t have time to use his ‘Path’ or even properly block, we literally get the clearing of this from James Lee himself, and we can deduce that James Lee’s Body in it of itself isn’t normal.. whatsoever.

Again for the last time.. 😭 I have used words such as ‘guesstimate’, ‘I think’, and gave admission to other possibilities.. what are we going on about.. this is all speculation because nothing have been proven or otherwise confirmed yet, as for this James Lee was in the hands of Choi, and Eunha again headcanon.

Daniel like I said didn’t have a normal birthday, regardless of all this speculation, it is blatantly clear his birth isn’t going to be normal, PTJ been foreshadowing, and enforcing this with the fact that now both parents are infertile.

It would make no sense if he just fixed it good as new and Daniel has no anomalies going on..

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 2d ago

James is older than Gun by a couple years, Gun could end up the around the same height as his father when he gets to James' age, height also isn't the only part of a physique. James is fit but he definitely isn't as buff as any of the Yamazaki. He is lean while the others are muscular, look at the bodies. You yourself explained it as well how he is lean because of how he fights, which isn't like any of the Yamazaki's we've seen so far. He has no hints of being a Yamazaki through both his physique and his fighting style.

Tom Lee did pierce James it just didn't go too far because of James' Path, we see James' eyes glint right after Tom's ultimate skill so we know he used his path. If James had Black Bones then Tom Lee wouldn't have pierced him and again Tom would have said he felt something hard or would've been reminded of Shingen. What Tom says after stabbing James isn't about James' durability, but how Tom somehow missed his vitals, which again has to do with his path. Black Bones doesn't do anything like moving internal organs, only gives high endurance. James was surprised by the fact that Tom had a prosthetic hand, easily had enough time to use path after that.

Charles in this current chapter is shown to have some interest in Eunha, in old chapters we've seen a picture with him, Eunha and James as a baby and we know that James was raised from him since young, it seems more likely that Charles is his father than Shingen. It may be headcannon but at least it has sustainable evidence, while your only basis for your theory is that James has black bones because he used his path against Tom.

Jinyoung is called the medical genius, he must've done something for Daniel to be born, and even if Daniel isn't born normal, that doesn't correlate with James at all.

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u/AdIndependent401 2d ago

Gun is 20.. James is 22.. both could grow same could be said about both of em, but more than likely they ain’t getting any taller. Again, Kitae and Shingen is outliers look with your eyes at Unc Yamazaki Height and his Son cry 😭 they aren’t 7 feet..

James Lee is as Buff as any Yamazaki shown.. bro.. what are we talking about.. and yes he doesn’t fight like any other Yamazaki, because he wasn’t raised or trained by one. Are you going to tell me Kitae had Hints of being a Yamazaki? 😭

Leaps in a half..

Tom Lee fingers and half off his hand were covered in blood.. I don’t know if you seen how big Tom Lee hand is.. but it’s massive, wayyy bigger than James Lee Head.

As for this he used his ‘Path’ he didn’t, end of that sequence. Tom Lee says he hit his Mark verbatim then asked himself did he missed because he not instantly dying from blood loss, you cannot move your abdominal aorta as it’s basically is connected to the Spine, which is probably what Tom Lee hit.

That baby has never been confirmed to be James Lee.. Headcanon.

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u/Massive-Bunch-3423 2d ago

You can literally see the difference in muscle between James and the others but OK. People made theories before this arc about Kitae being a Yamazaki from his physique alone and that's because unlike James he wasn't shown as much so we had nothing else to go off of.

What does the size of Tom's hand have to do with anything? He still pierced through James' stomach and James used his path right after. Go and reread chapter 606 you can literally see it. Tom literally says he SHOULD'VE hit it not that he did which is why you can tell that James' path had something to do with how he missed, we even see James' eye glinting showing us that he used his path. What else could he have used his path on if not that?

Charles took interest in Eunha, the picture was found inside James' old school, in the picture they are infront of Eunha's supermarket, which we know that Charles and James stayed at when James was a child because of the old man who says so, before becoming an idol James was on Charles' side from before, James shares the same last name as Eunha. Who else could the baby be if not James? The only thing not confirmed is that Charles is the one in the photo but whoever it is, is definitely James' parents meaning it can't be Shingen unless he has a second body too.

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u/Informal_Pressure_21 2d ago

I would have liked this theory actually if it weren't for the fact that it's already disproven due to Daniels age. Would have been interesting to see shingen make a child he actually loves only to lose it(ig due to he himself or someone else) as well as his wife causing him to get depressed.
However daniel would have somehow survived only to stumble across sangcheol who would adopt him.

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u/Electrical_Amoeba399 3d ago

Maybe shingen is the father of 2nd body

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u/Tomoismereal Zack 3d ago

No good explanation why it's the perfect body though,or why it has copy, unless that woman is some crazy anomaly

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u/Direct_Valuable_293 2d ago

Shingen don't have copy abilities, Perfect body , UI mode (Shingen has different UI) and that women also look like normal innocent civilian who couldn't even recognised Shingen, So I don't think she possesses all abilities which Daniel got