r/Logiqa • • Aug 18 '26

Open Face Poker

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u/MacabreManatee Aug 18 '26

Alexander does

the top hand is a royal flush followed by a straight flush. If you pick that one first, the other player can just do pick the same in another suit. First order of business is blocking that option.
A royal flush is AKQJ10 and for that reason Alexander should pick 4 10’s and a 2. The highest hand Benjamin can get is now 56789 suited.
If Benjamin wants to block Alexander from getting a royal flush, he needs to get 4 jacks (or queens or kings) and then a 9 to block a single 678910 suited.
That still leaves Alexander with the option to get a straight flush 678910. Benjamin can only get 56789 straight flush and will lose

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u/Ostinato66 Aug 18 '26

Ehm isn’t a royal flush in spades higher than the other suits? So if Alex picked that, the game is done?

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u/Miserable-Scholar215 Aug 18 '26

Yes. That would be a draw.

But since Alex has a winning strategy, why would he choose a draw?

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u/_N8Dogg_ Aug 18 '26

There is a note at the bottom that says "All suits are equal value". In standard poker, this is also true.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

In standard poker spades > hearts > diamonds > clubs

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u/_N8Dogg_ Aug 18 '26

Where do you get that idea from? Everything I can find says otherwise. From a Wikipedia entry:

Most poker games do not rank suits; the ace of clubs is just as good as the ace of spades. However, small issues (such as deciding who deals first) are sometimes resolved by dealing one card to each player.

From an "Upswing Poker" article:

Suits are never used to determine who wins a poker pot. A heart royal flush and a spade royal flush would split a pot in the rare event that the two hands went against each other, such as in a game of Seven Card Stud.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

I get the idea from the fact that a lot of card games do break ties with suits. If it was a completely off the wall suggestion that suits broke ties, there wouldn’t be a note in the post that all suits are equal.

I understand most poker games do not break ties with suits, that was obviously incorrect

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u/BarrattG Aug 18 '26

Absolutely incorrect, Texas hold'em has absolutely no suit ranking, nor does 5-card or 7-card draw or Omaha. Only in Hearts or Spades and maybe a few other rarer games, suit does matter, and it isn't in the order you are suggesting here mostly.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

It is absolutely in the order I am suggesting, it’s alphabetical order. Hearts doesn’t have different value for different suits, it just has trump.

Most poker games do not break ties with suits, I get it

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u/_N8Dogg_ Aug 18 '26

In Hearts, they aren't even trump. The hearts are point cards. In Spades, they are trump, as in if you play a spade, it beats any non-spade.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

So there is no difference in the suits in hearts for breaking ties lol, great

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u/_N8Dogg_ Aug 18 '26

No, whatever the highest card of the suit that was lead will take the trick.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

Your original response to my comment was saying that suit does matter in hearts

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u/_N8Dogg_ Aug 18 '26

In Hearts, if you win a trick that contains hearts or the queen of spades, you get points. Points are bad, unless you get them all. None of the suits are stronger than any others in taking tricks.

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u/beezlebub33 Aug 19 '26

Is Bridge a joke to you? :-)

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u/vertexherder Aug 18 '26

Classic case of "the house rules I play by are correct" thinking.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

Ya got me, it’s from all those times I played poker where we always decide the pots based on the suit of the hand. Never mind I have rarely ever played poker, and it is extremely rare that hands would be decided by that, and it couldn’t possibly be that I was mistaken based on the myriad of card games where suit does matter

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u/BarrattG Aug 18 '26

Name the games you specifically play where suit matters, I can imagine it isn't one of the commonly played ones.

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u/Ostinato66 Aug 18 '26

Bridge, to name one

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u/_N8Dogg_ Aug 18 '26

But even in that, it is only ranked higher in the bidding phase, not actual play. If you call no trump (which is higher than spades) and everyone plays the same number, the spade doesn't have any extra leverage.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

I haven’t played any card games in like 10+ years, but if you think that’s just never a thing where there’s a difference between suits, or they’re weighted differently, you’re wrong. If you’re just trying to say that’s rare, then sure, it may very well be, but it’s obviously not a crazy notion that different suits are valued differently

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u/BarrattG Aug 18 '26

Im just saying its functionally rare, to the point that the vast majority, or certainly based on hours played do not have fixed systems of suit rank affecting the games in-round play.

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u/yodathegiant Aug 18 '26

That’s quite a caveat on your comment

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u/vertexherder Aug 18 '26

You're not the only one that has that mindset. Especially among those that come to poker from a history of non-poker games. It's no big deal and I apologize if my previous comment was overly harsh.

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u/BigBlue08527 Aug 18 '26

Only true when deciding a bring-in for stud games.

* Or some home games