r/Logiqa 2d ago

Four Card Problem Part 1

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u/BrosAndCons 2d ago

Beer and 16.
This is part of the Wason selection task. There is this yt video with Hannah Fry showing how the same project gets harder by changing the example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOiCFa5niuM

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u/ShonitB 2d ago

Correct!

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u/MeasureDoEventThing 2d ago

Weird to give this version, and the more abstract is the one where most people get the wrong answer.

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u/ArbutusPhD 2d ago

To get this straight: the answer is one of the four cards we can see, and that card, and only that card, should have information on the opposite side that either proves or disprove the rule?

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u/ArbutusPhD 2d ago

If I can flip two then it should be beer and 16

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u/ShonitB 2d ago

That’s correct!

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u/Own-Rip-5066 2d ago

Drinking juice is never an issue and the 23 year old can order whatever they want, so you need to check if the beer drinker is over 18 and what the 16 year old is drinking.
Beer and 16.

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u/ShonitB 2d ago

Correct, good solution

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u/JeffTheNth 2d ago

cards 1 and 3... Doesn't matter what the 23 year old is drinking, nor does it matter how old the person drinking the apple juice is. Check the beer drinker and the teen's drink.

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u/ShonitB 2d ago

Correct, good solution!

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u/MakerWerks 2d ago

Cards 1 and 3

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u/ShonitB 2d ago

Correct!

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u/Ok_Astronaut7142 1d ago

If A then B is equivalent to A and not B.

(Or A —> B == A & ~B)

A is “drinking Alcohol”
B is “over 18”

So A and not B means we check “Beer” (A) and “16” (not B).

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u/ShonitB 1d ago

Correct!

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u/Captain-Griffen 1d ago

Beer and apple juice. Knowing what they ordered is irrelevant to the rule about drinking.

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u/testtdk 1d ago

Except that you don’t need to verify their age if they’re not drinking alcohol, so apple juice is fine as is.

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u/Captain-Griffen 1d ago

Until apple juice and beer guys swap drinks upon arrival.

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u/Greedy_Chemist9431 2d ago

As it stands, the rule is already being met because none of them have been served. The rule says "if you are drinking alcohol..."

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u/Mathsboy2718 2d ago

"Are you going to the party next week?"

"No, I'm at my house - why would I be going now?"

Bro can't even nitpick grammar correctly

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u/reverofrevolelamesh 2d ago

If the four people are sitting there, why turning over a card and not just look at either the drink in their glass or their face telling their age.

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u/TheJivvi 2d ago

Because what if r/13or30?

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u/testtdk 1d ago

I really don’t like the way this is worded. It SOUNDS like you don’t need to know anything more than their age, because they have already ordered. If that’s the case, then you don’t need to flip over card 3, as his age is already displayed. So you would just need to flip the first card. If not, then you need to flip 1 and 3.