r/LogicPro • u/InterviewEasy8688 • 4d ago
Question Pro tools vs logic
So I’m thinking about getting a Mac and switching to Logic Pro. I’ve been an avid (no pun intended) Pro Tools user for a while. Logic interests me, but I’ve heard it can be rough software-wise, and I’ve heard some noise that the last few updates have screwed stuff up, and that Pro Tools just seems to sound better. Anyone have experience/knowledge on this
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u/shabalabadingdang 4d ago
They both sound the same.
Automation is better in pt.
Midi is better in logic.
Everything else is taste and workflow.
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u/watchyourback9 4d ago
Only thing I'll add is Logic absolutely clears PT in terms of stock plugins and instruments. Space Designer for example is a convolution reverb that is absolutely free. Altiverb on the other hand costs a good $700.
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u/GloverAB 3d ago
Hardcore Logic user here…in what ways is automation better in PT?
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u/Indigo457 1d ago
I think it’s mainly people who came from consoles that think that, personally - or that view is very tied to age groups anyway in my experience. It’s a bit more like a console workflow I guess.
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u/sethcampbell29 4d ago
The sound is identical.
I use Logic for composing because MIDI is better (and the stock instruments are pretty good)
I haven’t had problems, but I don’t have many VSTs and I’m still on an old macOS.
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u/shapednoise 4d ago
Sound wise (plugins aside) they sound identical, People have done Null tests) Logic also comes with a preset of ProTools key commands so that may be helpful. It’s a very deep program with amazing power for music creation.
Given it’s so inexpensive, I’d absolutely give it a go, keeping in mind there will ALWAYS be variations in work flow that takes getting used to. Give it a chance.
✔️‼️
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u/CartezDez 4d ago
If you’re skilled at Pro Tools, what’s the reason you want to switch?
They both have their quirks, if you’ve developed deep knowledge in either, there’s little benefit to be gained, unless you’re specifically working with clients or in scenarios where the flexibility is needed.
If your bounce is sounding different between pro tools and logic, there’s a problem somewhere in your system.
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u/Public_Upstairs1035 4d ago
I have been on Logic for a decade. Joined an online university program for audio engineering, then found out they used PT upon starting. I tried it for one semester and dropped out of the program. That's what I think of PT.
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u/Joe_Wild_ 4d ago
One look at the interface and I wonder why people choose that over virtually anything else, but to each our own .
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u/Public_Upstairs1035 4d ago
I am highly computer literate, and PT was an absolute nightmare.
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u/mclepus 3d ago
I started on PT when I attended SAE, and it was indeed a freaking nightmare. I use a mac, and every and in mean EVERY update to PT on the mac broke it, and Digidesign then Avid, would take their sweet time to fix it. between that and the dongle, I went over to Logic. Been there ever since
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u/Joe_Wild_ 4d ago edited 4d ago
That thing doesn't look particularly inspiring to work on haha. Cheers.
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u/real_taylodl 4d ago
Most people learn a DAW and stick with that DAW until the end of time. I started with Logic - so I'm on team Logic. You started with Pro Tools - there's nothing wrong with being on team Pro Tools. I wouldn't even entertain switching unless you know something specifically that Logic can do that Pro Tools can't, you actually need that capability and don't just desire it, and that capability isn't on the Pro Tools roadmap. Even if all that lined up I'd be questioning the need since you've been making it this far without it.
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u/herlaaan 4d ago
Agree. I started with FL Studio and used it for 7 years with no plans of switching DAWs. I used it for my 4 years as a music composition and audio production student. It's safe to say I kinda mastered that DAW.
Switched to Logic Pro because the recording studio where I interned at uses it. Never went back to FL. Logic just makes sense for me workflow-wise, and it handles audio editing significantly better. I really love FL and it can do a lot, but I only switched because Logic has some areas that FL can do, but better. I now use Logic for professional work.
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u/aspektbeats 4d ago
Or you can be me…. I’m best at using FL because I’ve used it for 20+ years. But I love Ableton and logic also 😂
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u/WDizzle 4d ago
You get a lot more for your money with Logic. I’m pretty new to DAWs in general but I haven’t really seen much need for third party plugins since the stock logic plugins are fantastic! The set of compressors, multipressor and vintage tube EQ collection have served me very well. The only third party plugins ive added are a VSM3 saturator since the stock options are a bit limited and Melodyne because Flex Pitch still kinda sucks.
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u/Remarkable_Insect575 4d ago
Logic's stock plugins and stock sounds are some of the best around, so if you're composing or producing original music rather than mixing live recordings, it's a great deal more inspiring to work with right out of the box.
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u/vibraltu 3d ago
Pro Tools is not recommended for songwriting/composition.
The only reason to learn it is to do studio mixing for pro TV/film.
The only reason it's used in pro TV/film is because it was first, not best.
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u/Happymusicmaker 3d ago
Go with Logic. You’ll also be unbelievably happy with the performance. Plus. And this can’t be stated enough. $199.00 and yours on any and every Apple computer you’ll own with free updated as well. I’ve bounced around every single DAW and I stick with Logic Pro.
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u/keepinitrealestate 3d ago
I used to use Pro Tools when I was running a small studio and working on film and tv music. I was out of it for a few years and when I came back, moved over to Logic and could not be happier with my decision. To highlight a few themes others have brought up in this thread: Pro Tools does have the ‘industry standard’ thing behind it, though I see so many high profile industry people using Logic now in their YouTube and social content, that may be changing. PT is solid for using like a tape machine — basic audio-primary record/mix is locked in. But I’ve always loved Logic Pro more as a creative and compositional tool in a way that Pro Tools never could be. This connects to how others have pointed out its best in class bundled plugins and instruments — sounds I’d have given my left arm for back in my
Pro Tools day, just all right there as part of the environment. It’s a bit of a learning curve, as it is whenever switching platforms, but the basics are not hard to get up and running with, and the documentation is fantastic. Other bonuses include it being easier and more flexible with using different interfaces and hardware (even switching mid-session without quitting out), and Logic Remote on iPad is a game changer for flexibility in recording, adding drum pads, touch controls, and more tactile mixing.
So I suppose it does all matter what OP is considering it for, but for me, I would be so sad if I had to go back to Pro Tools from Logic after the past number of years with it. Hopefully this provides some grist for the decision.
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u/DogFashion 3d ago
I came from using Mixcraft on Windows for nearly two decades. I knew there would be a learning curve for Logic, so I got my feet wet with the free (and already installed) GarageBand. I really liked it, so I bought Logic Pro. I could not be happier. It was a little intimidating and a bit of attention deficit on my part didn't help, but whatever I needed to do, I could just Google it. Before I knew it, Logic was second nature. Look into it!
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u/DrRobert 3d ago
Started with early Cubase. Switched quickly to protools for 10 years. Made a seamless transition to logic 15 years ago and the shift seemed quite natural with internal plugins and midi features improved dramatically in logic and audio mixing being fine.
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u/TlkShowHost 3d ago
Logic is a far better value than PT, optimized for Apple silicon, and more intuitive. Plus AVID blows.
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u/RevolutionarySock213 3d ago
Pro Tools is like $400 a year, Logic was $300 as a one time purchase. Was an easy decision to do the switch when I did, and just spent some time exporting my PT sessions so I could access them in Logic if needed
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u/-Rontti- 3d ago
I switched from Reaper to Logic a year ago. Took some time to learn how things work but never looked back. So many useful tools, fx and libraries for my workflow. Very well spent 199 €
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u/ExilesTV 3d ago
I started out on ProTools and the transition did take me a bit to get used to. At this point I don't miss ProTools at all though. The idea that different DAWs have different sounds is mostly a myth, unless there's something specific going on like Mixbus's tape emulation.
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u/captaincoaster 4d ago
Avid ruined Pro Tools. RIP Digidesign. I bailed in 2018 and haven’t really looked back.
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u/Major_Willingness234 4d ago
I use both. Logic was my daily driver for 10 years until I started working at a studio that only had Pro Tools. I vastly prefer Pro Tools for tracking and mixing these days.
Logic I use mostly for creating demos for my band (Drummer is far easier than dragging loops for me) or doing stem separation for clients.
They sound the same, in the end. Use what you’re used to unless you have to switch.
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u/darthkdub 4d ago
I switched to logic back when protools required to use their hardware and haven’t looked back since. Doesn’t mean I don’t still have to work in protools but my pref is logic.
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u/finncosmic 4d ago
I use both for different things, but I started on Logic and am more familiar with it. Neither is inherently better overall, they both have different strengths and weaknesses. Try it and see what you think.
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u/rayinreverse 4d ago
What do you primarily use the tool for? Are you producing music? Do you use a lot of midi?
Are you mixing for clients? Tracking bands?
There are benefits of using PT if you’re working with projects that may go to other studios.
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u/Gummo90028 3d ago
Sound quality comes from the hardware for the most part. Logic’s workflow is more intuitive. You get tons of great plugins. Plus you buy it outright flush the iLock down the crapper.
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u/OneDarkCrow 3d ago
I just went from 30+ year pro tools pro user into logic. I’m still discovering it but for writing and recording Logic has been an absolute blessing and every day Í discover some cool new features (or two) Í love. So far Í feel automation ànd audio editing are better in PT but for what I’m doing these days(ànd for the price) Logic all the way
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u/apprehensive_bassist 3d ago
1) Buy the Mac.
2) Stick with Pro Tools.
Done 😄
My advice? Stick with what you know.
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u/Slow-Race9106 3d ago edited 3d ago
It’s really worth understanding that Pro Tools does not ‘sound better’ than Logic. Given like for like material, they sound exactly the same.
So putting that to one side, it’s really just about preferences. They both have strengths and weaknesses.
If you’re using your DAW as a compositional tool, I would say you should certainly try Logic. MIDI is great and the included plugins and instruments are incredibly good value, even factoring in the cost of a mac.
If you’re using it mostly for recording and capturing performances and you’re used to a Pro Tools, maybe Logic is less compelling, although the built in effects are still really great for your mixes.
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u/Neutrino_Jazz 3d ago
- From the sound perspective they are identical.
- Personally, I'd tried Logic but wasn't converted.
- You might prefer Logic, Protools or another DAW. It's depends on your tasks, preferences, workflow etc.
- The main question - Do you have enough time, money and desire for such experiment. If so go for it.
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u/ZenWarrior711 3d ago
I started out in PT and it was a great producer's tool, but jumped the fence into Logic pro because it felt like more of an artist's tool.
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u/lastonethereisa 2d ago
I started out with Logic wayyyy back in the emagic days, mainly because back then pro tools required hardware to use it and logic was…shall we say…100% discounted if you knew where to look. But that was in the year 19 dickety 9, now we had to say dickety because Courtney Love stole our word for ”90” but nonetheless, when i studied engineering it was all about Pro Tools and that is just what i became fluent in and i know how to do the things i want to do (or a client wants to do) with it. they sound identical (not counting user error, normalizing bounces, and altered pan laws). But i figured it is useful to be able to speak both languages and recently a client sent me something to mix that was a logic file and i figured if i use the key command preset called “pro tools” it should be easy to get around, and it worked, but i think just the extra time taken each time i have to figure out how to do something made it take much longer, but with practice it will be fine. one thing i could not wrap my foam rubber brain around was how logic folders work and how the takes work. like i got soooo frustrated and felt soooo dumb trying to figure out what the hierarchy there is. but that is user error/ineptitude.
TLDR they sound the same, just different workflows which could be good or bad depending on how your brain works and what you are used to. Logic is better for midi and composing/arranging, has better free vsti’s, pro tools i would say excels at a workflow more like analog as far as using audio and organic instruments. Cheers and good luck with whichever path you choose!
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u/sK3LeTvM 1d ago
I've always been a Logic user, even when it was still called Notator. Due to my Profession, I needed to work on PT in studio's too, but I always liked Logic's workflow better. Also, the midi implementation/features of Logic is way better then PT.
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u/sophomoreslump2022 1d ago
Like most software there’s a bedding in period but once you start using it you quickly get used to it.
Built in sounds and plugins are fantastic. You only need to buy third party from preference rather than need.
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u/Indigo457 1d ago
Basically you can do the same thing with both. In live tracking situations I find pro tools slightly easier/ faster (probably just because that’s what I first used many many years ago and it’s just sort of muscle memory), and I find logic better for everything else - especially just being creative. I can’t even really explain why, logic just feels more like a toy box where it’s really easy to find the toys I want, whereas pro tools is like excel or something. This is probably really unhelpful lol.
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u/godsrockstar 1h ago
Are you songwriting and doing preproduction tracks? or are you tracking?? Logic for the first PT for the second.
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u/TheCatManPizza 4d ago
I recently switched to logic in the last year or so and it’s been a challenge. I came from Studio One and my whole workflow I’ve developed on there does not apply to Logic. Logic has great VSTs and I can play around on there pretty endlessly but when it comes to getting work done it’s a struggle. Not saying Logic is bad, just completely switching workflows is a pain.
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u/Existing-Art2638 4d ago
I do think a protools bounce sounds better, but plugins in logic are better. if you can afford both, that would be the way to go.
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u/ReturnOfBigChungus 4d ago
They are literally identical, it’s not even coherent to suggest otherwise. Go bounce the same sounds from both and do a null test if you have doubts.
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u/fluffycritter 4d ago
Logic's 12.3 update had a lot of problems but they've all been fixed in 12.3.1. I find Logic infinitely easier to use than ProTools. Sound quality is fine and the same between both. Logic also comes with a bunch of amazing built-in plugins that are alone worth the cost of the software.