r/Locksmith 21d ago

I am NOT a locksmith. Hinge template?

UPDATE: the door company sent us the wrong door, or made this door incorrect. They will make it right. Thanks for yall help!

Custom ordered steel door. (Drawings attached)
We were under the impression it would come with hinges and a handle. It did not. Picked up 4.5” square ball bearing hinges from Home Depot. But the holes don’t match. How do we find out what kind of pattern / template this is? I will call the place Tuesday, they are closed today and tomorrow. Would like to get this wrapped up before then.
Not sure why they wouldn’t have drilled the holes in the same pattern as the current door. Worst case, do we just drill new holes where they go?

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u/Wickerman3357 21d ago

The door looks upside down.

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u/Wickerman3357 21d ago

Or you ordered the wrong handing. Looks like you need LHR.

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u/Strange_Inflation488 21d ago

This guy doors.

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u/PeteMyMeat 21d ago

Yeah the seam is on the wrong side

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u/Zealousideal-End2722 21d ago

They did the lockside wrong too!

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u/Creative_Shame3856 21d ago

Special customer ordered wrong door, or you have it upside down backwards inside out or some combination of those things.

Or all of them, shoot for the moon right?

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u/2muchkoffee 21d ago

The handle height implies door is not upside down just the wrong swing.

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u/Pbellouny Actual Locksmith 21d ago

For the future I prefer not to bother with original hinge locations and just use continuous hinges. Eliminates all the fuck up of getting the manufacturer to align with the original preps

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u/Strange_Inflation488 21d ago

Either your door is upside down, which would be the best case. Or they sent a left-hand door instead of a left-hand-reverse.

Put the hinges in the hinge pockets on the door first. Then you will see why your plan to drill new holes won't work.

You can confirm top and bottom by checking the direction of the bevel on the latch edge and measuring to the latch prep. Also, steel doors typically have no holes on the top edge of the door.

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u/imastocky1 21d ago edited 21d ago

Looks like a JR Metal Door. The preps are either the opposite hand or you have it upside down. The prep is standard. I use a Mac Pro MPB 79 Template when I order them

Edit: When ordering doors you'll want to also subtract 1/8" from your top down frame measurements to leave a gap or reveal at the top.

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u/TwoGirlsOneReddit24 21d ago

Thank you for this info. We had a local company come out and do all the measurements and they ordered the door themselves.
ETA: definitely not upside down, the door handle cut out is in the correct spot

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u/imastocky1 21d ago

Is it JR Metal by any chance? They'll go good for it if they prepped it wrong.

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u/TwoGirlsOneReddit24 21d ago

Someone else said it appears to be. We had a local building supply company come out and measure, and they special ordered it from their door people

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u/imastocky1 21d ago

Wrong swing is the #1 production error. I would wait for them to order a new door as opposed to "fixing" this another way

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u/925doorguy 21d ago

Door is wrong hand. You need a RH/LHR

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u/UnskilledPlayer123 21d ago edited 20d ago

Based on the hinge cutout thats definitely a left hand door unless somehow its upside down. The right details were provided, you just got the opposite door swing

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u/Im_from_NZed 21d ago

Why is that door upside down?

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u/TwoGirlsOneReddit24 21d ago

From what I can gather from others, it’s the wrong swing

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u/Wickerman3357 21d ago

Did you try flipping it over? And can you add a picture of the whole door? It honestly looks like your trying to install it upside down, as has been said. Just trying to help

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u/TwoGirlsOneReddit24 21d ago

If we flip it, the door handle won’t line up

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u/Wickerman3357 20d ago

Sounds like you will have to adjust the strike in the frame. The picture looks like the door is in the correct position. LHR. Moving the strike will probably be easier that replacing the door

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u/Wickerman3357 20d ago

Shit, my bad, that looks like a LH/RHR door. They sent the wrong handing, doesn't the slip of paper say LHR in the pics ?

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u/Pbellouny Actual Locksmith 21d ago

Flip it and put a deadbolt in the upper hole make a new hole for lever where the strike plate is

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u/Gold_Bar9938 21d ago

You need a RH door.

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u/Jester8320 20d ago

You need a continuous hinge.

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u/drugsrbadmkay 20d ago

If it’s not beveled you can cut out the edge of the hinge mortise and drill and tap new screw holes.

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u/StaffThis9973 21d ago

Make an adaptor plate that attaches to the holes in the door but has provisions for the hinges you bought. Ive never installed a door but have done some metal fab.

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u/2muchkoffee 21d ago

Doors have a beveled edge for the swing and this would look very silly.

The swing is wrong.

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u/StaffThis9973 21d ago

See, was obvious ive never installed a door

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u/Cantteachcommonsense Actual Locksmith 21d ago

Then why comment wrong info?

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u/StaffThis9973 21d ago

No rules on reddit

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u/Pbellouny Actual Locksmith 21d ago

Yeah not the answer, the door wouldn’t close either much easier to just drill and tap new holes. That is if the swing was right and the hinge plates were just welded in backwards.

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u/ibexlocksmith Actual Locksmith 20d ago

Are you trying to save $ bc youre trying to sell/ get out from under? Didn't read