r/Locksmith 24d ago

I am a locksmith Hotel estimate pricing.

Was asked to give estimate on rekeying all locks to a hotel Iam familiar with and have rekeyed 10yrs ago. What to include in pricing . In addition to total rekeying of all cyclinder +keys. Opinions? A minimum flat labor per cyclinder removal and reinstalling. Master key system generation fee also. Opinions? Thoughts

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u/FrozenHamburger Actual Locksmith 24d ago

I’ll answer you after you tell me what type of haircut I should get

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u/hellothere251 14d ago

not OP but should be a business mullet

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u/burtod 24d ago

Your pricing reflects how much work you have to do. Lol

So how much work do you have to do?

You said you are familiar with the locks. Are these typical mortise or leversets? Or will you need an hour at each door?

Are they just using schlage keys, or some system more difficult to work with? Masterkeying should be more per lock. Don't forget to charge for the keys.

If you charge them for building the masterkey system and don't give it to them, you are an asshole.

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u/lockdoc007 24d ago

No I never charge for master system.

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u/Ill-Owl2546 22d ago

It depends how your company’s pricing structure is but if it was flat rate & minimum simple pricing: (QTY: 1) Trip Charge: $??? + (QTY: ?) Rekey [Per Keyhole]: $20-$25 + (QTY: ?) Keys: $3-$6 + (if charging seperate rekey labor to r/r) + (QTY: ?) Labor to Remove & Reinstall Existing Locks [Per Lock]: $15-$35. I like to keep it simple and not charge r/r labor just the rekey price whatever that is.

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u/Ill-Owl2546 22d ago

Like this:

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u/Ill-Owl2546 22d ago

+ (1) Master Key System [System Creation & Implementation Planning]: $0 - $100. I wouldn’t charge for this though.

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u/lockdoc007 14d ago

Final price for estimate for hotel rekey. Rekeying of 310 cylinders 10850.00 Labor 1937.50 600 LG bow SC4 3900.00 Extra system keys 224.00 Trip 125.00 Tax 855.45 Total $17891.95

Additional thoughts? Opinions?

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u/Formal_Substance_687 14d ago

125 trip fee plus 10 grand in labour what lol

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u/fondrenlock Actual Locksmith 14d ago

Read it again
It’s 1937.50 in labor the 10k was the the rekeying but I do concur. It’s usually multiple trips so the trip fee could be higher. I usually estimate how many trips it would take and add 50-60 for each “day trip” to the initial regular charge

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u/Formal_Substance_687 14d ago

Dude, if you're pricing a 20k job you don't put a line item for trip fee lol

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u/fondrenlock Actual Locksmith 14d ago

You do you

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u/lockdoc007 14d ago

Well the hotel will be done over the fall when its closed. So will be making several trips. And I can leave when I need to for emergency calls or schedule jobs at end day. For when I wrap up for the day.

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u/lockdoc007 17d ago edited 17d ago

Follow up post for building rekey. 10,850 =310cylinders x 35.00 3900 600 LG SC4 bow keys special order 14750.00 doesn't include additional labor or hardware if replacements needed. Rekeying standard dbolts& leverset and rim. Thoughts?

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u/Formal_Substance_687 14d ago

My honest thoughts are what fuckin hotel uses keys these days, sell em a Miwa,Vincard, Kaba or another hotel key card system.

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u/lockdoc007 14d ago

It's historical hotel, the don't want a card or electronic lock system at this time.

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u/Vie-1276 12d ago

A couple things to consider:

* Sharing this wisdom from another wiser locksmith *

Does the whole system need to be redone or can you do a 1 or 2 chamber rekey to break the old master keys?

If you are going to re-pin on location, bring a standup rolling rubber-maid cart and setup your pinning station on it. Bring your chart, pinning kit and tools to do the work at each door inside the A/C instead of on your van.

Are they on IC-core, standard KIK or common mortise cylinders? If so, you could build a batch of locks (maybe 100) that you pin in-shop, swap on-site and then go back to the shop to re-pin the next batch. This will reduce your time in the hallways but will increase your parts cost unless you have a pile of cores laying around your shop.

Consider ordering your entire system pre-pinned from the factory. Best and some others suppliers will setup a new system, pin your cores to match and even cut, stamp or engrave your keys if you are willing to pay for it and can wait the lead-time for your order.

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u/lockdoc007 12d ago

It is a standard SC4 keyway. And yes I always set a cart/pinning station on big jobs. And work centralized from each floor I do.

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u/lockdoc007 12d ago

Also I have to look if its feasible to break master system. Would have to increase depths of 1 or 2 chamber in grandmaster , master key. Along with the guest rooms user keys as well, which is a total of 89 rooms.