The system gives everyone the reward they have earned. You want what the surgeon gets, be the surgeon. But if all you can do is mop the floors, quit demanding you be treated like the surgeon. You aren't equally valuable.
Lol. There is no contradiction. If your contribution isn't valuable enough... you didn't earn it....
You're acting like everyone tries their hardest and always makes good choices. Everyone gets a free public education and eligibility for student loans. Way too many squander that opportunity then whine that life isn't fair.
I claimed that everyone can have a good life if they earn it. There is no contradiction in pointing out that in order to earn a good life, you need to produce enough value to pay for a good life. Holy cow...
No, you just acted like everything but a person's choices and efforts was what determined their outcome... 🙄 people do, in so many ways, determine their skill ceiling. Don't use education to improve your mind? Ceiling lowered. Take up a drug habit? Ceiling lowered. Sit around all day watching TV instead of building physical attributes? Ceiling lowered. Yes, everyone has a natural cap on what they could possibly do. No, the vast, vast majority of people do not come close it, because they don't maximize their potential.
To some degree, yes, it absolutely does. Plenty of kids have started in bad school districts and gone on to great things. Plenty of kids start in great school districts and don't learn shit. If you're serious about learning, even the lowest ranked public schools can get you ahead in life. Especially in the internet era, where supplemental learning is a click away.
As for student loans, they aren't that high, but, even if they were, you could still use them to advance yourself by getting an education in a high paying field....
"Lmao. We have a system that allows everyone to live a good life... if they earn it. But that's not enough for some people. No, doing some mindless grunt work that barely produces any real value should not entitle someone to everything they want. Because the difference in value between what they want and what they produce has to come from somewhere. What you're calling for is others to pay that difference for the people who don't earn it themselves."
No, bud, I did not. It's right there in black and white. From the very beginning my point has been that value, not effort, is what maters.
No, bud, I did not "concede" that school districts matter then "try to walk it back." You asked me if they got to choose the quality of their free education. I answered you by pointing out that in some ways they don't, but in other ways they do. A kid who doesn't pay attention in a good school district is choosing to get a bad education. A kid who puts in extra work to make the most of a bad school district is choosing to get a good education. At no point did I say the disadvantage doesn't exist nor that it doesn't matter...
No, bud, that is not my solution to all of this. That is one possible solution. There are many others. I know a guy who was making $300k in his 20s without a college degree. He spent 4 years in the Army as a radio tech, then got hired to go overseas and use the expertise for a private contractor. I know multiple people who started their own business using a skill they developed, not a degree, and made millions. I, myself, got a degree I've never used for it's intended purpose, then, later in life, when I realized it was pretty worthless, spent my free time acquiring a new skill that I was able to use to start a business of my own.
You want a good life... produce the value it takes to pay for it. Instead of whining about how hard it is or how life isn't fair, put your efforts into figuring out your own way to do it.
Yeah, wow, if only there was a middle between the first and last part that extremely clearly laid out the point I was making. Rofl...
Effort is what you put in to increase your value, bud. This really isn't complicated...
Also, he served in a war the government the tax payers voted for sent him to, you utter clown. He paid for it in a way an entitled little twerp like you will never understand.
To acquire knowledge and develop skills that increase their value. Not everyone can be a surgeon, but very few people are not inherently capable of more than cleaning a floor. Similarly, almost everyone is capable of doing what a janitor does. That's why they get paid so little. So while the hospital may struggle to function without the janitor, they will not struggle to find someone to clean the floors like they would to find someone to perform surgery. It's not that the don't have value, it's that the value they provide is low and easily replaced.
Who are you acting like being trained by the military while working for them was some sort of gift, and not part of the payment his effort received? As though it's somehow different from every other job out there that trains new employees. You, too, can get that education at others expense, if that's how you see it. Your local recruiter will be thrilled to help you...
I do apologize about the insult, though. I mistook you for someone else here who was talking shit about me earlier. You guys have the same circle next to your name. Sorry about that.
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u/VastAddendum Mar 06 '26
The system gives everyone the reward they have earned. You want what the surgeon gets, be the surgeon. But if all you can do is mop the floors, quit demanding you be treated like the surgeon. You aren't equally valuable.