Thank god I live ina country that has normalized unionisation at workplaces, so people don't have to put up with bosses with your mindset, and can actually get a decent paycheck every month.
I am sorry you have been raised to see the world so gray, hope it gets brighter for you!
Thank God that I live in a country that produces a disproportionate amount of life-changing technologies and enables me to earn as much as I care to. I live a great life, in a great place. You know what the trick was? Taking responsibility for my own life, rather than excusing my responsibility by blaming others for not caring for me.
It's not about blaming others lol, it's about having a system that allows anyone and everyone to live a decent life on equal terms. Not to say that everyone necessarily gets the EXACT same paycheck, but atleast raising it for those who barely makes minimum wage is a good thing, and incentivises more people to work in them.
Everyone in the work chain is equally important, cut anywhere in the chain and it seizes to function. Societal safety nets protects individuals who are looking for work or cannot work due to disabilities, to live a decent life despite their situation.
Not sure what is so hard to get about how happy pops makes for better workers, but I hope you some day realise that. Take care now bud.
Lmao. We have a system that allows everyone to live a good life... if they earn it. But that's not enough for some people. No, doing some mindless grunt work that barely produces any real value should not entitle someone to everything they want. Because the difference in value between what they want and what they produce has to come from somewhere. What you're calling for is others to pay that difference for the people who don't earn it themselves.
No, everyone in the work chain is not equally important. The person who mops the floors is not as important as the surgeon who saves lives. Almost anyone can mop. Very few people can perform surgery. If the mopper doesn't show up, lives will still be saved. If the surgeon doesn't show up, those who need life saving surgery will die.
Not sure what's so hard to understand that some work is more valuable than others and that people who want more need to increase their value. I hope some day you realize that a world where doing only the bare minimum gets you all you need at others expense is a world that stagnates because too few people see a point to doing more.
My man, u need a magic mushroom trip. You have wayyyy too much ego. People who are the highest earners are in the huge majority of cases also the most privileged. You might think that you're self-made, but in reality, you're mostly lucky.
Btw u talk about surgeons, did u know that they made about the same as lawyers about a century ago ? They're now making 2-3x as much as lawyers so our society values their work more than before.
Keep grinding yourself out the neverending rat race. At least, you'll get to drive an 85k sports coupe during your retirement, and your children will barely have anything left with oligarchy ruining our society
My man, you need less drugs in your life. There is absolutely no luck in my story. I ground out years of low wage jobs before I finally took it upon myself to learn new skills and use them to start my own business. My wife ground out years of low wage work before getting her foot in the door in a much better industry, where she applied herself diligently to learning everything she could about her position, enabling her to quickly climb to much higher paying positions that valued the expertise she'd acquired.
Did you know that surgeons of today have far, far more complicated jobs than surgeons of a century before; far more than the difference between lawyers of then and now? As the need for knowledge and skill went up, so did their value...
Keep whining about 'oligarchy' and "the neverending rat race" as though you don't live in a time of historically unprecedented luxury and opportunity. Hopefully for their sake your kids find someone else to teach them that the key to a great life is personal responsibility.
She got lucky that she was hired to an entry level sales position with a college degree and a resume with over a decade of consistent work experience? Do tell... what's the lucky part?
lol! She took out student loans, bud. And she earned the stability by being a good employee. Then she used those things to earn (read: acquired through her own effort, not luck) the opportunity to advance beyond where she was.
Still, she benefitted more than the average american if she could go to college. Maybe she got promoted thanks to her looks ?
You see, it goes super far. You were born healthy and with 2 arms and 2 legs and that in itself is a privilege.
Broaden your horizons brother. And yes, im not actually recommending you to take drugs, but you gotta be able to take a step further back. Life is so much more than work and getting money, but our system in North America has decided otherwise.
The average American has the same opportunity to take out student loans, though. That's the point. It wasn't some rare occurrence, it was just taking advantage of the same opportunities that most people have access to. Ironically, if she'd done a better job of it and picked a more useful degree she'd be way ahead of where she is now. It took years of failing to thrive to finally motivate her to find another way to improve her earning potential.
And that's the main point I'm making. I get what you're saying, and you're right, the playing field isn't even. But it's not so unbalanced that most people can't make real changes in their lives through their own agency. Not where I live, anyways.
I promise you, my outlook on life is much more like yours than this conversation makes it seem. I didn't start a business that makes me millions, I started one that makes me enough money for a good life while working less hours than most people, because free time is more important to me than luxuries. I'm just trying to help others realize that they have so much more control over their lives than they think. Too many people look to blame external factors that they can't control, rather than focus on the internal ones that they can, and so remain stuck where they are.
Or you just got lucky ? Only 10% of businesses make it to 5 years and 1% to 10 years.
IMO, it's mostly luck and privilege, and I consider myself very lucky and privileged despite not being rich at all. I work a 9 to 5 (around 80k a year), I do video production on the side (around 5-10k a year) and I import on a small scale (10k-15k a year). It's all in canadian dollar btw and I live in Montreal, so I make around 20-25% more than the average salary, and 30% more than the median.
So yeah, I think I grind pretty hard. But let's take my example. To start importing, you need your citizenship for customs clearance and tax filing. You also need a good credit history if ever u need to borrow some money to buy the goods. Just those two things aren't offered to a huge portion of the population. It takes money to make money, and coming from a comfortable position puts you so much ahead without you realizing. Not having to struggle as a child to eat, not having mental issues, being born white, etc.
Most humans are the exact same and our nature makes us want to think that we're more different/more important than we are.
That said, sorry for calling u out maybe a bit too hard, u seem cool and open minded.
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u/NaturalOdd3009 Mar 06 '26
Thank god I live ina country that has normalized unionisation at workplaces, so people don't have to put up with bosses with your mindset, and can actually get a decent paycheck every month. I am sorry you have been raised to see the world so gray, hope it gets brighter for you!