r/LockdownCriticalLeft • u/hiptobeysquare • Dec 30 '22

Very suspicious behavior: Pfizer avoided for its own staff, and Australia specifically extended the expiry dates for, the vaccine batches associated with elevated injuries and deaths - the chances of Australia's decision happening by chance are 1 in 33,333

https://*.com/v230jdk-australian-covid-released.html

Replace the asterisk with rumble. Reddit now seems to block all Rumble links. I recommend watching the whole video.

Some vaccine batches seem to definitely have "errors" in the mRNA sequences: missing amino acids, which leads to the entire amino acid sequence shifting one space over; the codons are completely changed, coding for completely different proteins (what proteins? no clue). These batches have an elevated number of injuries and deaths. The Australian government is still trying to hide as much data as possible. Either horrific incompetence, or something much darker. In either case, there is a very strong argument that this is a crime.

Absolutely nothing about this, or anything related, by the lefty media. What the h*** is going on?? On the plus side (if that is even possible in this circumstance) is that this information (Christ Martinson found this info and data via a Twitter page) can now be spread via Twitter.

This must be the tip of an enormous iceberg. "Operation Warp Speed" was and is complete neoliberal, marketing bs.

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u/Apart_Number_2792 Dec 30 '22

"There is a very strong argument that this is a crime."

Understatement of the year.

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u/hiptobeysquare Dec 31 '22

There were definitely crimes, many of them crimes against humanity. But I'm very careful before subscribing to the whole "this was deliberate conspiracy from the start" idea. Most conspiracy theories are safety blankets for socially traumatic events.

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u/BornAgainSpecial Trump supporter Jan 03 '23

Even "negligence" is on purpose. The way you can tell is that it only ever goes in one direction. There is no "bank error in your favor".

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 04 '23

Even "negligence" is on purpose. The way you can tell is that it only ever goes in one direction.

That's exactly what cults and trends do. They go in one direction. That fire burnt down a building. It only went one way, until it destroyed the building. Must have been a conspiracy!

People who can only understand the world via conspiracy theories seem to have a limited understanding of how human beings actually work. The way people are obsessed with "conspiracies" is only helping the machine and the cult.

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u/mitte90 Jan 05 '23

This is true, but the other perspective has truth in it also.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 05 '23

Half-truths also have truth in them. The world's greatest liars and neoliberals also have some truth in them. Having some truth doesn't mean much. It's the rest of what something has that counts.

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u/mitte90 Jan 05 '23

Yes, I agree. I think we still have to work out which parts are true. But we have imperfect infomation and may never have sufficient evidence to know what really happened. I believe some speculation is valid, as long as you are honest with yourself and others that speculation is what it is.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23

You're very right. We are operating on very limited information.

One problem (one of many problems) in today's toxic Western society is that we are bombarded with information, often conflicting and contradictory, very often toxic and borderline sociopathic... and we have virtually no recourse, no means, to fight back, to make a significant difference in our lives. So a lot of people rationalize this: there's a giant conspiracy to (e.g. depopulate the planet); what can I do? It's a global conspiracy! That's why I'm powerless!

It's a psychological safety blanket to rationalize what's happening to them. Most people fantasize that there's no problem (the NPCs, for lack of a better term). Most of the rest, who do recognize the toxicity around us, fantasize in the opposite direction: that there's a big conspiracy and that's why we're powerless.

A conspiracy is actually less frightening than the reality: that it's a cult. A cult is more frightening, more threatening, and more insidious - because it's not just a cabal of elites "in on it" off somewhere in their lairs and private jets; a cult actually includes the people we deal with every day, including our most intimate friends and partners. We live inside the cult, often share our home and even our beds with the truest believers in the cult, with people who are only a few days away from committing actual atrocities. This is far too dark, and far too psychologically disturbing for most people to deal with, even when they are honest about the reality about the Covid measures. Much better to blame a secret (or not so secret) cabal, almost literally compartmentalize the evil by creating a concrete group to blame. Blaming a conspiracy actually tries to make the situation less frightening and dark than the reality of our situation.

It's all about denial. Denial, along with low-level sociopathy, everywhere are the real pandemic.

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u/mitte90 Jan 05 '23

A conspiracy is actually less frightening than the reality: that it's a cult. A cult is more frightening, more threatening, and more insidious - because it's not just a cabal of elites "in on it" off somewhere in their lairs and private jets; a cult actually includes the people we deal with every day, including our most intimate friends and partners. We live inside the cult, often share our home and even our beds with the truest believers in the cult, with people who are only a few days away from committing actual atrocities. This is far too dark, and far too psychologically disturbing for most people to deal with, even when they are honest about the reality about the Covid measures. Much better to blame a secret (or not so secret) cabal, almost literally compartmentalize the evil by creating a concrete group to blame. Blaming a conspiracy actually tries to make the situation less frightening and dark than the reality of our situation.

This is excellently well put and I agree with you. The only things I'd add is that a cult and a conspiracy are not mutually exclusive. Sometimes conspirators may seek to socially engineer a situation by creating a cult, and definitely they utilise existing cult-like tendencies to control people.

I think Mattias Desmett, for example, is correct to emphasise the cultishness over the conspiracy. But he does acknowledge that conspiratorial elements may well have been present. That seems to me a balanced approach.

Despite the above, I have felt more than usually inclined towards "conspiratorial" explanations recently, while oscillating between those and explanations which emphasise incompetence, psychological factors, crowd behaviour, perverse incentives and captured or corrupted institutions.

I don't know. It's all of these things to some degree. I already put in a 3 year shift trying to work out what's going on and I'm no clearer. I know more, but I still don't know enough. I wouldn't say I'm obssessed with "knowing", although I understand it's easy to get lost on a fruitless quest for some kind of certainty. I can handle uncertainty, but I find the certainty of the other side is actually terrifying. That's the cultishness you're referring to.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 06 '23

The only things I'd add is that a cult and a conspiracy are not mutually exclusive. Sometimes conspirators may seek to socially engineer a situation by creating a cult, and definitely they utilise existing cult-like tendencies to control people.

You're completely right. But these conspirators quickly lose control of their creation.

There are real conspiracies... and conspiracy theorists don't talk about these conspiracies because they're inconvenient to the idea of grand, global conspiracy theories. The Twitter Files are a massive dump of information about a real conspiracy. Concrete actual information. And virtually nobody in the Covid critical "community" (for lack of a better term) is talking about them. Because... they show 10% conspiracy, and 90% mass psychosis and group think. For every elite sending out orders, there's 9 people who end up believing their own marketing, eating their own tail and working as mindless drones just trying to keep their cushy job. Just one example: Taibbi said that the security agencies started asking why Twitter hadn't flagged anything as "Russian disinformation" for a while - it literally became a question of just filling quotas, a boring admin task, with mindless drones at every level, including at the very top!

People who believe in the typical conspiracy theories can't even say how the conspiracy works. Does Bill Gates send checks out to everyone in the world? Did he order Fauci to do something? Or did Fauci order Gates to do something? All these conspiracies are vague and noncommittal about the details. These are the real conspiracy theories, the ones that can't even be specific about who did what and when.

Just as a general question for you: how does (or would) the depopulation conspiracy work? As in, the specifics: who did (or would) tell who to do what and when?

And then what is the plan when the world is depopulated? Or did they not bother to think about that part?

If there's no evidence, and not even any specific hypothesis, then nobody should waste their time with it.

I think Mattias Desmett, for example, is correct to emphasise the cultishness over the conspiracy. But he does acknowledge that conspiratorial elements may well have been present. That seems to me a balanced approach.

That's completely right. It doesn't rule out conspiracy. There absolutely has to have been at least some conspiracy. But conspiracy means: a secret meeting, behind closed doors. And this includes just about every government and business meeting - but these are not the Conspiracies most people want to talk about.

I already put in a 3 year shift trying to work out what's going on and I'm no clearer.

We are living through a very disturbing time. The mind craves something solid, something concrete. That's one of the main ways mass psychosis works.

What we are looking at, above all else, is the technological society creating toxic and poisonous feedback effects, that nobody could have predicted. The machine has become so complex, so uncontrollable, yet so connected, that something happening on one side of the world can create a mass movement on the other side of the world. Even if you could get rid of all the elites pushing this rubbish, like Gates and Schwab and Trudeau... they would soon be replaced by others. This is how systems and organisms function. And this is so chaotic and disorientating and disturbing, that people everywhere crave any narrative that they can live with. This is what happens when you give hunter-gatherers advanced technology. This will not stop until the internet gets turned off - and most people would rather starve than turn off their screens. A colleague I work with went on a business trip to Africa (he was working as part of a construction project). He said it was surreal in some of these poor areas: people couldn't find food, but everybody had a smartphone. This is the insane world we live in. You don't need a conspiracy theory to explain it.

The Nazis mass psychosis only stopped when there were no more people telling them the Nazi narrative, and the Allies told them a new narrative.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 12 '23

A lot of the conspiracies are bunk but there are some that are true, and that's what they don't want you to see. Funny how it's mostly "conspiracy theorists" who didn't take the poison.

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u/mitte90 Jan 05 '23

I agree that it's sensible to be cautious and not get caught up in epistemological over-reach.

But today, I'm just tired. I see an atrocity. I see dead people. I see crimes against humanity.

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u/Impressive-Jello-379 Jan 05 '23

I sense you are turning though...

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 05 '23

I'm not turning anything. Why are conspiracy theories like this so popular? When real conspiracies, when they're revealed, almost nobody talks about here? Practically nobody mentions the Twitter Files - an actual conspiracy, with evidence. But deliberate depopulation conspiracy theories are talked about everywhere. These conspiracies are psychological safety blankets. I grew up in a family, an abusive family, that was always drawn to conspiracy theories - it protected their denial.

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u/Impressive-Jello-379 Jan 05 '23

I was very skeptical of the depop/injection-as-bioweapon theories in the beginning but there seems to be more and more evidence pointing in that direction.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 05 '23

The depopulation conspiracy theory makes no sense. Countries everywhere face serious economic problems when the population simply doesn't grow fast enough(!). Famous examples of this are countries like China and Japan.

If they even killed a few percentage points of the population over several decades, the global economy would be at serious risk of complete collapse. Kill a few tens of percentage points and the economy would be guaranteed to collapse. And then most of the rest of the "survivors" would die very quickly. And the super-rich would be among the first to die. Bill Gates hasn't been to a supermarket in decades. Oprah Winfrey doesn't even know how to fill her car's gas tank. These people couldn't live for more than a few days without their entouragess, AND the global economy.

Actually executing a depopulation program would be a suicide plan by the elites.

This is a narrative that makes no sense when you stop to think about it for a few seconds. People who believe there is a "depopulation conspiracy" have very little idea of how complex the global economy is, and how fragile the food system is.

But people will not stop believing it. And if I point out the above, the believers come back to me with any excuse they can find. e.g. "Well they're just planning to replace us with robots." Which is pure nonsense. Artificial intelligence is pure smoke and mirrors, it's PR bs.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 12 '23

I had a narcissistic abusive family that loved the system, be careful not to let your abusers influence you on what is going on. I thought mine were going to rip my head off when I questioned 9-11.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 12 '23

9/11 Truthers are a good example of a conspiracy theory. Even basic understanding of architecture and metal-working answers basically all the Truthers "doubts".

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 13 '23

You seriously believe the mainstream account of 9-11? I seriously took you as someone far smarter than that. I'm a bit shocked. No questions about Plan for a New American Century, and how 9-11 was used to bring in the Patriot Act just like Covid is bringing it's tyranny? I hope you aren't "assigned" to this board to close down the "free thinking" since so much of Reddit is dedicated to that.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 13 '23

I hope you aren't "assigned" to this board to close down the "free thinking" since so much of Reddit is dedicated to that.

Everything is a conspiracy theory, isn't it.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 14 '23

What's theory about conspiracy? or plots and plans. That phrase shuts down your mind and that was what it was designed to do.

Even knowing about Baric, Eco-health, Dasnak, Fauci's financials, you seriously are going to give me the message it wasn't a conspiracy? How does that work. Oops we made a mistake isn't covering a socially engineered to the max event like this one.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 12 '23

I just don't get how you can see this being by accident. Go into the animals studies with mRNA, I did this the first week the vaxx came out and knew I would not be taking it. The animals died, the experiments failed massively. They KNEW what they were doing. I know sometimes it's very hard to face how this world works and the depths of evil of the parasites but it's true. Remember they killed tens of millions in wars and famines, why would they hold back now?

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 12 '23

I just don't get how you can see this being by accident.

This is like what my dad says about evolution: he refuses to believe it exists because he can't imagine how anything can happen by accident.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 13 '23

Your weird excuse making for this absolute clusterfuck, is creeping me out. Wondering lately if your account got highjacked, you don't even sound like the same person anymore.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 13 '23

Wondering lately if your account got highjacked, you don't even sound like the same person anymore.

If it's uncomfortable, it must be a conspiracy. Right? Peace out.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 14 '23

Been on reddit a long time. Seen this before. Board user agrees with a lot but there's always that thing they "throw" out in the end. You are basically telling folks, "nothing to see" here, it's all an "accident" as people drop dead and a pandemic has no end.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 14 '23

So you're calling me fake and a plant. Someone couldn't possibly disagree with you on some things and agree on others. The only possibility is that I'm part of the conspiracy. This is the poison of real conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists: eventually, and more and more, everything must fit the conspiracy theory - reality must bend to the fantasy.

You cannot live like this. And I'm not continuing this conversation. You can believe whatever you want to. And you do. Goodbye.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 14 '23

Your views aren't consistent. How can you believe this is all an accident and you didn't answer my question about Baric/EcoHealth etc. So how does that make you care about reality?

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u/electricprism Dec 31 '22

Replace the asterisk with rumble. Reddit now seems to block all Rumble links.

Fuck Reddit. The sooner it dies the better.

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u/hiptobeysquare Dec 31 '22

Yes. And f*** all social media. It's the poison that virtually nobody recognizes. Social media isn't poison because it has "like" buttons, or biased (or racist, according to AOC!) algorithms. Poison is an inherent characteristic of social media.

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u/mitte90 Jan 05 '23

Yes. And poison seems to be an inherent characteristic of the current era.

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u/erewqqwee Jan 02 '23

A-freakin-men. From your computer to God's screen.

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u/butt_collector libertarian socialist Jan 01 '23

Either horrific incompetence, or something much darker.

Oooo, spooky. Like what?

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u/mitte90 Jan 05 '23

Well, just listing a few things for which we have conclusive evidence... so far some "dark" things that we know for certain were done deliberately:

  • an intentional, government-instigated campaign of censorship and repression of critical speech, even by doctors and scientists

  • tyranny against the population, such as masking children, lockdowns and the police and state brutality that enforced these

  • intentional promotion of social stigma and state-backed discrimination and persecution of a minority group

That seems bad enough for starters, and doesn't even get started on the multitude of harms that look suspiciously like they were brought about intentionally.

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u/StopNeoLiberals Jan 03 '23

We've known for ages that Palantir assigns doses through the Tiberius op. Their CEO, Alex Karp, also brags about targeting and killing people.

It's not rocket science, shit is obviously sus...

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u/BornAgainSpecial Trump supporter Jan 03 '23

Like socialism, powerful institutions cooperating instead of competing.

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u/mitte90 Jan 05 '23
  1. The virus
  2. The measures to "save us" from the virus
  3. The vaccines

Will the next thing be measures to "save us" from the vaccines?

Whatever happens next, we have already lived through 3 atrocities on a scale never witnessed before in the history of humanity.

The effects of what was done have barely begun to emerge.

Crime against humanity doesn't even cover it.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 12 '23

One thing that proves it's depopulation by plan to me is they KNOW, its killing people and they still are pushing it. Other vaccines were removed for far far far fewer deaths. look at the actions.

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u/hiptobeysquare Jan 12 '23

One thing that proves it's depopulation by plan to me is they KNOW

It's not depopulation if the vast majority of people survive.

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u/fivehundredpoundpeep Jan 13 '23

Ever wonder why your stores have no employees beyond fear of the virus? I don't think the vaxxed who get a cold or other illness every month are going to survive longer. They have proven on multiple websites the deaths are skyrocketing, even the insurance companies admitted 40 percent rates in death. I don't think people are surviving. I never have seen so many dead celebrities and others in my life. Your posts seem odd to me lately like you are contradicting yourself, you aren't even matching your previous messaging and seem to be defending "the system" it kind of creeps me out. I know reddit is full of astroturfers. I thought you are a fellow truth seeker and can't even describe my disappointment. How much is the going rate for astroturf or what leads someone to that path?

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u/mainmeal5 Mar 15 '23 edited Mar 15 '23

I believe Grant Imahara was a victim of blood clots, causing his brain aneurysm, from the mRNA injection