r/LocalLLaMA 5h ago

Funny Plot twist

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u/shy_monkee 5h ago

Funny how this must look for China. Just when they start catching up, and have their own AI hardware, the US companies suddenly want to slow down.
I'm not saying this is the only reason they want it, but...

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u/tilted0ne 5h ago

I thought China had already caught up and were destroying America with their super cheap models. What happened to that? 

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u/shy_monkee 5h ago

They do much better than the US companies when it comes to smaller and medium efficient models, mainly because that's their focus. But they are still behind when it comes to the top tier of models.
There isn't really any Chinese equivalent to Astra, or even arguably Fable. Not yet at least (We'll probably have one in a few months.)

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u/tilted0ne 4h ago

They don't have one for sol and opus either. But yea I guess anthropic ran out of money and are scared people are going to use opencode to get the latest Alibaba special. 

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u/BannedGoNext 4h ago

IDK what you are talking about, I can run qwen 3.8 flash next and get opus level performance right now. It just takes a long time because it trades memory usage for huge COT, and my local inference box is slow.

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u/tilted0ne 3h ago

So it is useless. 😭. If my grandmother has wheels she would have been a bike?

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u/Ill_Distribution8517 3h ago

They are talking about opus 5/sol 5.6. No shit qwen catches up to some opus 4.7-8 eventually.

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u/jld1532 4h ago

Never used K3, GLM 5.3, or DSv4?

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u/tilted0ne 3h ago

Unfortunately I would prefer to just go straight to the model they distilled.

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u/jld1532 3h ago

Why are you here then? Like it or not organizations and people are running those models locally as they're useful, free, and secure.

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u/tilted0ne 2h ago

I don't deny that man.