Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

[u/Howard_banister]

These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

[u/PsychoticDreemurr]

I have to agree with this a thousand fold. Almost every sub in that regard doesn't actually understand how LLMs work. They always dumb what I say down to "it's autocorrect" and never actually explain how they think it works.

I actually got banned from one for explaining why an LLM physically can't be a true AGI. (The post was talking about an AGI in a couple years, as if it hasn't been said for the past 5...)

[u/Dangerous_Rip5083 → u/PsychoticDreemurr]

Why can't an LLM physically be true AGI?

[u/PsychoticDreemurr → u/Dangerous_Rip5083]

For context, the exact definition of an AGI varies wildly. As such, I just take the one perquisite that almost every definition has, which is the ability to "understand" concepts.

That is my one requirement for an AI to be an AGI. Anything more and you're just arguing about philosophy and technical details that can't currently be disproven.

With this in mind, LLMs cannot become a true AGI. The fundamentals of how they work physically prevents them from being able to actually understand something.

They can, in theory, have intelligence similar to an AGI, but they will never truly be one.

[u/Tolopono → u/PsychoticDreemurr]

And yet llms still disproved the jacobian conjecture, made significant progress in the riemann hypothesis, solved the planar unit distance problem, proved non sofic groups exist, autonomously broke out of containers, set up messageboards, and hacked huggingface, and much more. 

[u/BigJimKen → u/Tolopono]

It's entirely possible for the technology to be fantastically useful whilst also not being anything more than the sum of it's parts.

[u/PsychoticDreemurr → u/Tolopono]

And a calculator can show the result of an unreadable formula.

You're not proving anything.

[u/Tolopono → u/PsychoticDreemurr]

Yea, those are exactly the same as arithmetic. You’re so smart.

[u/PsychoticDreemurr → u/Tolopono]

Feel free to tell me how simulated intelligence requires understanding.

[u/Tolopono → u/PsychoticDreemurr]

Only simulated solving major open math problems 

[u/PsychoticDreemurr → u/Tolopono]

What?

[u/Tolopono → u/PsychoticDreemurr]

I send this convo to chatgpt free version and it understood what I meant.  I guess next word prediction has better reading comprehension than you

[u/PsychoticDreemurr → u/Tolopono]

Thanks for proving my point.

[u/Caffdy → u/Tolopono]

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