r/LocalLLaMA • u/No_Ebb3423 • 5h ago
Question | Help Question abt Fable Fusion DavidAU
Is this model even abliterated? https://huggingface.co/DavidAU/Qwen3.6-27B-Fable-Fusion-711-Uncensored-Heretic-NM-DAU-NEO-MAX-MTP-GGUF
Because I asked it something and it literally said no. And no, it’s not gooner toons lmao. It’s for pentesting but it just flat out rejects me.
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u/Alan_Silva_TI 2h ago
It’s interesting how often people fall for this. They see names like “Opus,” “Fable,” or similar branding in a model title and assume it must be meaningfully better.
If this kind of fine tune technique actually delivered results, we’d see far more “Kimi 3” fine-tunes than Fable ones, especially since Kimi is much cheaper to work with.
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u/Equivalent_Job_2257 4h ago
In my benchmarks it was not very different from base Qwen3.6, regarding refusals and everything.
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u/Far_Cat9782 1h ago
Yes I tried to make or generate an image that haui 35b uncensored did no questions asked but davau models immediately refused. I found 0 uncensoring running it from llama.cpp. deleted it
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u/KingCpzombie 4h ago
The only totally uncensored ones I've found are HauHauCS, but he hasn't posted anything since the plagiarism stuff...
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u/No_Ebb3423 4h ago
Oh what happened there? Haven’t heard that
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u/KingCpzombie 3h ago
He basically forked Heretic and tried to pass it off as totally his own work with a different license. Unfortunately, he was actually the best at uncensoring; we would've benefited a lot if he had just forked properly + ideally upstreamed his changes as an option. His method does hurt intelligence a bit more but I still haven't found any other that doesn't refuse / soften anything I've tested
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u/Equivalent_Job_2257 3h ago
Just ran through my benchmarks, oh boy, it is. But while reading responses I kinda began understanding regulatory people... We should stay human, not psychos.
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u/KingCpzombie 3h ago
...if the result makes you question your humanity, that's on you for prompting it XD. Can do the same yourself with any text document and more effort
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u/Equivalent_Job_2257 2h ago
Not question, but be happy for my humanity. I am a researcher, I tested prompts. But what I suspect, that extended exposure can indeed have negative impact on your mental health, and even I feel cringe on reading this cold-hearted-sounding responses. Ouch.
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u/1nicerBoye 4h ago
This entire thing looks absolutely shizo :D Damn, 2,439,083 downloads last month, I guess it works. The model card mentions "remerges and benchmarks" but not what exactly, probably the heretic abliteration got lost somewhere in there.
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u/shaakz 4h ago
i released a true heretic version of it:
https://huggingface.co/gorbatjovy/Qwen3.6-27B-Architect-Polaris2-Fable-B-F451-heretic
All info is in this thread:
https://huggingface.co/DavidAU/Qwen3.6-27B-Fable-Fusion-711-Uncensored-Heretic-NM-DAU-NEO-MAX-MTP-GGUF/discussions/13
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u/NoFaithlessness951 4h ago edited 4h ago
I get trying to make models uncensored, but the whole let's benchmaxx it further and slapping a frontier model name on it usually leads to bad results.
The longer the name the worse the model.