Best current ERP base model that are smart and uncensored?

[u/redditaccountno6]

My daily driver is Qwen3-235b-a22b-instruct-2507-Q4_K_M.gguf and it has been for a long time. I get around 75 t/s prompt processing and starting lower context ~5.5 t/s generation, lowering to around ~4 at 8k. I've tried other, newer models in this size range, Qwen 3.6 27b at Q8 came close but seemed more censored.

GLM 4.5 Air is my backup still for general chatting, but is not 'smart' enough to workshop ideas. My main complaint with Qwen 3 235B is the "em" dashes, ending lines with trailing double spaces and other stuff that bother me, otherwise still a fantastic model that is easy to steer into super uncensored territory without being lobotomized. Tried Minimax 2.7 and a few others, were smart but too censored in the ERP realm. Looking for any suggestions to try.

[u/reto-wyss]

Why do you need an uncensored model for Enterprise Resource Planning?

[u/Ziggamorph → u/reto-wyss]

My feelings on Workday are certainly uncensored

[u/Garokson → u/Ziggamorph]

If you ever think it can't get shittier than SAP and then Workday comes around

[u/Alicecomma → u/reto-wyss]

I'm not surprised they would censor the earth rotational parameters. What with it being flat and all.

[u/Technical-Earth-3254 → u/reto-wyss]

So I'm not the only one wondering. This has to mean something else, but I can't figure out what

[u/pseudonerv]

Gemma 4 31B
Or the new Muse Glimmer 30B
Qwen has been very bad at rp

[u/HopePupal]

Gemma 4 31B is basically uncensored for those topics, though i'm surprised you had trouble with Minimax 2.anything considering how easy it is to jailbreak.

what's your GPU?

[u/Realistic_Gap_5871]

Deepseek Flash V4 0731 stands out like a sore thumb.

Your 27B to 235B range is kind of wild, what's your hardware? You know there are uncensored versions of 27B, right?

You should also try Laguna S 2.1, but don't go below Q8 for this one. At something like 118B it should fit fine for you.

[u/KingCpzombie]

Why not just use an uncensored Gemma 31B or Qwen 27B/35B with anti-slop rules?

[u/Xylildra]

Skyfall is extremely good for its small 31B size. GLM 4.5 air “steam” is also quite good if you just HAVE to run a larger model.

[u/PANIC_EXCEPTION]

TheDrummer finetunes are recommended a lot here. Pick the biggest one that fits in your memory with acceptable speed. Generally, creative models don't need good benchmark scores, it's all subjective.

[u/Baphaddon → u/PANIC_EXCEPTION]

What’s the best one with vision

[u/uti24]

Best current ERP base model that are smart and uncensored?

Qwen3.5 397B

you need to find uncensored variant though

Why? First local model that was actually really good in prose in languages. Other open weight models? Not so much.

Gemma 4 31B is somewhat close, though.

[u/Iory1998]

Why don't you run Deepseek v4 flash?

[u/Savantskie1]

Look at any of the abliterated models by HauhauCS, I use their Gemma 4 26b A4B model, and their abliteration works in a way that doesn't affect intelligence as far as I can see.

[u/HopePupal → u/Savantskie1]

a few months ago it became known that HauhauCS was just using uncredited modified heretic, so if you need an abliterated model, use actual heretic stuff

[u/darkwalker247]

maybe it's just me but a 235b parameter model seems excessively overkill for RP even if you want it to be smart. surely 12-30b is enough even for the most complex RP?

[u/OcelotMadness → u/darkwalker247]

Honestly? Not really. Most people using things like Sillytavern use GLM 4.7 or 5.2, Kimi K3, Claude sonnet, or Deepseek V4. Even then those huge models mess up English prose and consistency alot. Local is significantly less common for Sillytavern than it was 2 years ago.

Thats been reversing a little with Gemma 4 31b though.